[Lonergan_l] Fwd: VERBAL UNIVERSE AS PONS ASINORUM

[nichola...@utoronto.ca]

Doug writes:I subsequently found I don't agree as much with those who
see a leap with MiT,

Tracy goes on to say that he thought Method should be a bit more
intellectually rigorus, and Lonergan pointed to Langdon Gilkey and his
wife.
"Would you ask Langdon to prove his love for his wife?" Lonergan
asked. And Tracy admits that Lonergan was right.

Dorothy Sayers remarks on the relation of the INFERNO to the rest of
the COMMEDIA: To take the INFERNO for the whole of Dante is like
mistaking the underground plumbing for the city of Paris!!

There are no laws of nature. If you throw yourself off a bridge you
don't break the law of gravity, you fulfill it. In the scriptural
sense, law is a contract between persons which results in Lonergan's
mantra: Rom. 5:5 which can be recognized only in a verbal universe. We
should pity people who spend their time in the natural
sciences--someone has to do the plumbing!

Cheers,
NWG

Quoting Doug Mounce <mou...@uw.edu>:

>
> Hi Nicholas,
>
> I remember being disappointed with Tracy's review of Lonergan's Insight
> (although it had a nice intro by Bernard,) and I significantly worried
> that Tracy's interpretation of Galileo's work represented what Lonergan
> was thinking.
>
> I subsequently found I don't agree as much with those who see a leap
> with MiT, but fortunately for Tracy there was a significant leap with
> his work on the nature of communication. regards, Doug
>
> PS - Brodsky has an interesting commentary on Frost's use of the word
> "stars" in this poem which hints how Frost studied Dante.
>
> Come In
>
> As I came to the edge of the woods,
> Thrush music -- hark!
> Now if it was dusk outside,
> Inside it was dark.
>
> Too dark in the woods for a bird
> By sleight of wing
> To better its perch for the night,
> Though it still could sing.
>
> The last of the light of the sun
> That had died in the west
> Still lived for one song more
> In a thrush's breast.
>
> Far in the pillared dark
> Thrush music went --
> Almost like a call to come in
> To the dark and lament.
>
> But no, I was out for stars;
> I would not come in.
> I meant not even if asked;
> And I hadn't been.
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, nichola...@utoronto.ca wrote:
>
>> --I'd really recommend his essay on "The Augustinian Theory of
>> History".
>
>> Lonergan's leap from Insight to Method both in outlook and in
>> language was such a shock to David Tracy that he says that "It was
>> as if John Calvin had ascended the pulpit in Geneva to announce
>> that this year we are going to have a Mardi Gras!" With Romans
>> 5:5, Lonergan leaped beyond all logic, all reasoning, all
>> induction, to a new conceptual framework, a new begrifflichkite,
>> at the center of which is the coordinating principle, with
>> which Dante ends his Commedia: "the Love that moves the sun and
>> the other stars." This is also echoed in the very last sentence
>> of Frye's THE DOUBLE VISION in the thirty volumes of his
>> COLLECTED WORKS:
>> "The Resurrection is before us and waiting to be recognized."
>>
>> --NWG
>
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