John et al,
I've slowed down 'turtle paced' so as to go, for better or worse, much deeper with your AIRR,
especially as we approach the text's treatment of notions of 'value and equilibrium' in economy
(approximately at pp.83-114) .
I had sent you and Pierre (not to the List Serve) much earlier a short critical reflection
(even a somewhat presumptuous counter-position on labor-value guided by the Greek Marxist - Yanis Varoufakis)
on your text's treatment of the 'labor theory of value' by way of Michael Eldred's work on the topic.
This issue, I'm afraid, takes us very deep into areas of ontological dialectics and interpretive hermeneutics.
(You see also some significant signs of this from the Christian tradition in JPII's encyclical Laborem Exorcens
and Gregory Baum's interpretation of it ....)
So I'm stuck, at the moment, between what seems like Lonergan's scant attention to the value of labor in economy
and then Marx's seemingly scant attention to what deNeeve calls the entrepreneurial dimension of economy.
This is going to take some more 'turtle paced' time for me to try and sort out ...
As for 'morality helpless ?' ... yes, very much so in the US and now very likely in the West, in my humble view.
By this I mean that the Christian moral tradition in the West has for the most part become captive to 'liberalism'
and 'liberalism' (liberal democracies) are simply impotent (or worse) in the face of the US/Israeli led genocide in GAZA. (see attached)
This is the moral issue, of our times it seems to me, and I should think this is now quite clear for most of the world,
at least in the global south.
(Ukraine, by comparison, is historically and Geopolitically a much more complicated situation ....)
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It is just this situation that, for me, makes this renewal/revival of the Christian-Marxist dialogue-debate by way of your AIRR text so compellingly relevant and important.
And this, if you read them carefully, is the opinion of the likes of Doran and Schilleebckx as well, on the Christian side ...
and it is there in Lonergan on occasion also, though I get the sense
he was quite certain, perhaps given his time period, that Western Christianity had more to teach than learn ...
I now, for myself, am not so sure about this any longer .....
Hugh
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