[london-hack-space] Blacksmithing

[Ryan Seville]

@hipster @paddy @billy

Can't make it tonight guys - no monies unfortunately.

Cheers

Ryan

[Billy]

I can't be there either.

Means there are two spaces for people that are interested.

[Paddy Duncan]

Nor can Hipster... 3 spaces....

[Lindsay Morrison]

if someone wanted to take one of the free spaces on the blacksmithing class, how would we go about doing it? who would we get in touch with?

lindsay

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

Good question.
We'll try to set up some kind of system before the next session.
Tonight went with 3 unfilled spaces...
Paddy

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[Lindsay Morrison]

shame about the missed forge time! lets try to get it a bit more organized, as i know there are lots of people keen to get smithing!

L

[Paddy Duncan]

Ok...

3 people have confirmed their places for blacksmithing tomorrow.

So there are 2 up for grabs...

And no I haven't thought of a better plan than posting on here.

Cheers

Paddy

[tom]

bollocks! Stop doing this on podcast recording nights!

Can i shotgun a spare place next wednesday?

[David Murphy]

where is it? in the space or elsewhere?

[Paddy Duncan]

It's at Stepney City Farm

 

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where is it? in the space or elsewhere?

[Akki]

You could miss a recording... :P

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

Indeed.
Still 2 places left, ...
Stepney, 6.30, 30 quid, what happened to all that interest?

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[David Murphy]

Do we need any special protective clothing or similar?

Myself and my girlfriend will take those places.

[tom]

well i was interested all along! And i cant do tonight as i dont have any appropriate clothing :p

[IrradiatedHaggis]

We would need to wear good boots and expendable clothes for this, right? Hmmm i would be interested, but I would have to come straight from work without a change of clothes and I don't think business clothes are appropriate unfortunately. I also could not get there until 6:45 or 7

Troy

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[Paul Dart]

I'm interested in doing this but not free tonight.

Although on that note, I haven't posted my interest before though so don't want to jump the queue.

It sounds like this is popular. Is it going to keep running indefinately? Can we start to show interest for next week/time yet? A can definitely fill two places next Wednesday if that helps.

Maybe it would be a good idea to make people pay upfront or put a deposit down to reduce dropouts?

Cheers,
Paul

On 10 Jul 2012 16:57, "Paddy Duncan" <pad...@padski.co.uk> wrote:

Ok...

3 people have confirmed their places for blacksmithing tomorrow.

So there are 2 up for grabs...

And no I haven't thought of a better plan than posting on here.

Cheers

Paddy

 

 

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shame about the missed forge time! lets try to get it a bit more organized, as i know there are...

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

Just sturdy footwear ie that will prevent very hot things going through in milliseconds.
Places yours if you still want.
Paddy

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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:45

Do we need any special protective clothing or similar?

Myself and my girlfriend will take those places.

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

And yes, as others have pointed out, you will get dirty and sparks fly about..

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

Just sturdy footwear ie that will prevent very hot things going through in milliseconds.
Places yours if you still want.
Paddy

[David Murphy]

Not sure if my eariler messege got through ok.

Myself and my girlfriend will take those 2 places tonight if that's ok. Sounds like something interesting to try.

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

It will certainly keep running if fully subscribed...
Perhaps a wiki page is in order.
In theory it is a course, I originally expected all who started to either stick it out until they became independent, or decide after a taster it was not for them. I am sticking it out and will keep my place until done.
I propose having a list, whereby attendance guarantees a place the following week, and non-attendance guarantees being back at the bottom of the list, unless a private arrangement be made eg to cover in case of emergency.
And yes I think also that paying in advance ie buying a higher place in the list could work too.

Paddy

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Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:11

I'm interested in doing this but not free tonight.

Although on that note, I haven't posted my interest before though so don't want to jump the queue.

It sounds like this is popular. Is it going to keep running indefinately? Can we start to show interest for next week/time yet? A can definitely fill two places next Wednesday if that helps.

Maybe it would be a good idea to make people pay upfront or put a deposit down to reduce dropouts?

Cheers,
Paul

[Lindsay Morrison]

hi everyone,

 

 i would really like to go to the next blacksmithing class, if there are any spaces available. please let me know!

cheers,

lindsay

ps: i take it that the classes are now on a wednesday instead of the original monday evening?...........

[Paddy Duncan]

Hi All,

There are 2 places free for tomorrow, Hipster's (hurt his hammer hand), and mine (unexpectedly have to be elsewhere).

There is a wiki page...  http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Blacksmithing

Please reply asap if you are interested, priority will go to those already on the page, and ideally I would like my place back the following week, as I am close to finishing what I want to achieve.

Cheers

Paddy

[Lindsay Morrison]

hello!

  i would REALLY love one of the blacksmithing spaces tomorrow.

lindsay

[Paddy Duncan]

Hi Lindsay,

Then it is yours..

Paddy

 

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[Lindsay Morrison]

thanks! thats wicked....can you tell me what time it starts? Its still at stepney city farm, right?

cheers, L

[Paddy Duncan]

Yes it is, 6.30pm..

[Lindsay Morrison]

cheers! L

[Paddy Duncan]

And it is run by Ian. Shout and rattle the gate…

[Lindsay Morrison]

cool, i cant wait.

[Lindsay Morrison]

hi hipster,

  i've heard you have an injury and are out of comission for a few weeks? sorry to hear that, but could i have your space on the blacksmithing not next wednesday, but the following one, on 1 august?

hope you recover soon!

lindsay

[Emma Wignall]

I've injured my elbow and think I'm going to be unable to attend for 2-3 weeks :( .  If Hipster is back, then my space will be free on 1 Aug.

Emma

[Lindsay Morrison]

hi emma, sorry to hear about the elbow. am just recovering from wrist injuries myself. thanks for letting me know about the space. hope you get better soon!

L

[David Murphy]

Me and S should be there for blacksmithing this wednesday.

Who else is going this week?

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

I again cannot. The Laban family have first dibs anyway. Are you out there?

Paddy

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[David Murphy]

out there? it's only tuesday. it isn't on till tomorrow isn't it?

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

I meant in a position to get the email.. Yes today is Tuesday

[Lindsay Morrison]

hey, i want to do blacksmithing this week.

lindsay

[Paddy Duncan]

No problem. My previous email referred to the last 2 places. You, David, and Siobhan have the first 3..

 

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hey, i want to do blacksmithing this week.

 

lindsay

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:02 PM, David Murphy <murphy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Me and S should be there for blacksmithing this wednesday.

Who else is going this week?

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Lindsay Morrison <metalmonk...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi emma, sorry to hear about the elbow. am just recovering from wrist injuries myself. thanks for letting me know about the space. hope you get better soon!

L

 

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Emma Wignall <elwi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've injured my elbow and think I'm going to be unable to attend for 2-3 weeks :( .  If Hipster is back, then my space will be free on 1 Aug.

Emma

On Friday, July 20, 2012 2:30:19 PM UTC+1, Lindsay Morrison wrote:

hi hipster,

  i've heard you have an injury and are out of comission for a few weeks? sorry to hear that, but could i have your space on the blacksmithing not next wednesday, but the following one, on 1 august?

 

hope you recover soon!

lindsay

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Paddy Duncan <pad...@padski.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Lindsay,

Then it is yours..

Paddy

 

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hello!

  i would REALLY love one of the blacksmithing spaces tomorrow.

lindsay

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Paddy Duncan <pad...@padski.co.uk> wrote:

Hi All,

There are 2 places free for tomorrow, Hipster's (hurt his hammer hand), and mine (unexpectedly have to be elsewhere).

There is a wiki page...  http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Blacksmithing

Please reply asap if you are interested, priority will go to those already on the page, and ideally I would like my place back the following week, as I am close to finishing what I want to achieve.

Cheers

Paddy

 

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[David Murphy]

I think yer man and his son are going. not sure at all though.

[Lindsay Morrison]

wicked, can't wait. just to let you know i will miss next week (if that information is any use to you!).

L

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

Very useful thanks

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Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 20:25

wicked, can't wait. just to let you know i will miss next week (if that information is any use to you!).

L

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Paddy Duncan <pad...@padski.co.uk> wrote:

No problem. My previous email referred to the last 2 places. You, David, and Siobhan have the first 3..

 

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hey, i want to do blacksmithing this week..

 

lindsay

L

 

Emma

lindsay

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[pad...@padski.co.uk]

Ok ta I'll email them directly.
Paddy

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Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2012 20:19

I think yer man and his son are going. not sure at all though.

[David Murphy]

Hi , we didn't get enough people last night. is anyone who tried it at EMF interested in some more blacksmithing classes?

me, siobhan and john laban should be there next week so I think we have 2 spaces.

[SamLR]

I'm very interested (especially as I missed getting a slot at EMF). Probably won't be free for a couple of weeks though (need to clear the EMF backlog)

S

[Lindsay Morrison]

i would like to do next week's blacksmithing class.

lindsay

[David Murphy]

lovely, 1 space left for anyone who wants a go.

[tom]

I'll have next weeks one!

[Paddy Duncan]

Great stuff! Glad to see it full again. I've updated the wiki, not that anyone goes there...

Paddy

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[David Murphy]

Since I'm not sure you've been there before tom:

about 6:30 tonight
bring older clothes and £30.
Stepney City Farm, Stepney Way

 

If you can't get in the gate hang round and someone will be along sooner or later.

[tom]

I dont have hefty boots (still not arrived in post THANKS AMAZON), is that a problem?

[pad...@padski.co.uk]

I've done it in plimsols, practice your footwork...

lindsay

 

[Lindsay Morrison]

hi blacksmithing folks,

   i'm not going to be able to make it tonight, have had an emergency at work :(  so my space is free. i'm going to be out of the country untill 15 october, but would really like to keep doing the smithing when i get back.

lindsay

[David Murphy]

1 space availiable to anyone who wants in! come along! it's awsome!

[David Murphy]

3 places open this week.

Who's interested in coming for this wednesday?

Me, siobhan and  (I think, correct me if I'm wrong)  Tom are going this week

After talking to Ian he's willing to increase the class size to 6 since we tend to end up with at least one not being able to make it and he prefers a class of 5 and if he does end up with 6 he's still got the space.
 
got your steel for the hammer yet Paddy?

[Paddy Duncan]

I may well be able to attend this week.. I’ll confirm tomorrow.

No no hammer steel has yet materialized, but I can still make tool-making tools J

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[tim_n]

Still on its way Paddy, did chase on Friday.

[tom]

I'm still in!

[Mark Steward]

I'm interested in coming along this week.  Should I rearrange the wiki page?

Mark

[Paddy Duncan]

Go for it..

Paddy

[tom]

long term what are our plans for doing this in/near the space? Its a pain in the arse only being able to do it once a week :)

[Paddy Duncan]

What would you like to do?

I'm keen but it's a lot of kit, amounting to a lot of money, and not practical to do in the space..

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[tom]

I'd love somewhere to practice the basic stuff, I'm guessing the kiln isnt hot enough to work small pieces of mild-steel? 

Abby left an anvil (somewhere) in the space.

I was considering doing it on our roof at home, but i dont think the people below would like the idea of a 1300c fire on their heads :/

[David Murphy]

yes, the amount of heat and smoke might upset the landlord more than the welding. Perhaps when the space moves it can get a forge.

it took me about 3 months to cover his basic lessons though I'm not the fastest and even after them I have to ask him a lot of questions.

[Paddy Duncan]

No, the kiln comes nowhere close. Nor does that anvil, unless you intend using a 2 ounce hammer.

A gas forge would solve the extreme smuttiness problem and is relatively easy to make, and ok for small things.

Still not sure how ‘allowable’ that might be ..

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[David Murphy]

probably be very expensive to run on gas though.
thought with the equipment availible in the space I'd be surprised if a proper forge like his couldn't be made.

[Simon Howes]

Hello Tom!

We've done iron before in the kiln. Just heat it up orange hot, pop the metal in the end and leave it till it gets cherry hot then strike while the iron is still hot :)

We made the crucible tongs for the kiln like this.
That said, these were wrough iron. Not sure if mild steel has some properties that make it less mallable when its red hot...

Bai oh bai bai bai

[David Murphy]

it's a bugger for getting inclusions and cracks if you try to do too much at cherry rather than yellow.

[Paddy Duncan]

Are you sure it was wrought iron? Wrought iron is only workable when yellow-hot. Mild steel is workable-ish (ie doesn’t crack) down to cherry-red, but really we want yellow in order to seriously reshape it. Presumably the tongs were mostly a bending job.

[Paddy Duncan]

Are you still up for it Mark?

And are we sure John is not? I can email him directly if in doubt..

I will be coming, and I’ve edited the wiki accordingly.

Paddy

 

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I'm interested in coming along this week.  Should I rearrange the wiki page?

[David Murphy]

no idea about John.

looks like we'll have a good group this week.

[Mike]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:33:53AM +0100, David Murphy wrote:
> yes, the amount of heat and smoke might upset the landlord more than the
> welding. Perhaps when the space moves it can get a forge.
>

Did the welding upset the landlord? What did they say about it?

Mike.

[David Murphy]

no idea, I was just told that many of the things in the space like the gas cannisters and other heavy duty cutting, welding etc equipment being used by amatures next to piles of wood, plastic, cardboard, paper and cans of solvent makes the building management slightly uncomfortable.

I don't imagine a forge would make them feel better.

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[David Murphy]

Hey all

Me and siobhan won't be able to make it next wednesday.
I thought I'd be able to but it turns out I can't: I've emailed Ian.

so there's quite a few spaces next wednesday.

David