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Sci

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Apr 15, 2011, 9:43:39 PM4/15/11
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On Tuesday I was told it'd be a good idea to ask this on the list to get
the attention of the lockpickers.

I have an old keycutting machine. It's in pieces at the moment as I was
going to try and sell the motor alone (as ebay keeps pulling the auction
for the whole machine as it's a "lockpicking tool").

It's basically a manual X-Y table with a stop and key-blank holder, and
a right-angle Parvalux motor. You trace an existing key along the stop
and the cutter grinds a matching pattern in the blank. Only really any
good for yale and mortice keys.

I can reassemble it and lend it to the space, but I doubt it would be
much use. I'd also be happy to sell it if an individual lockpicker is
interested in it. Open to offers.

~ Sci
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Jonty Wareing

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Apr 18, 2011, 7:15:07 AM4/18/11
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On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 02:43:39AM +0100, Sci wrote:
> I can reassemble it and lend it to the space, but I doubt it would be
> much use. I'd also be happy to sell it if an individual lockpicker is
> interested in it. Open to offers.

Honestly, this is a genuinely useful tool if it works. The number of
keys we have to pay to get cut is daft, and having a facility in the
space would be ace.

How large is it?

--jonty

Charles Yarnold

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Apr 18, 2011, 7:45:16 AM4/18/11
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+1 if its a nice size.

On Apr 18, 2011 12:15 PM, "Jonty Wareing" <jo...@jonty.co.uk> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 02:43:39AM +0100, Sci wrote: > I can reassemble it and lend it to the space,...

Earthshine

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Apr 18, 2011, 10:57:45 AM4/18/11
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is it easy enough to get hold of key blanks?

Martin Klang

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Apr 18, 2011, 10:59:11 AM4/18/11
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is it easy to get blanks though?

/m

Toby Catlin

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:06:04 AM4/18/11
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but what about the blanks? are they easy to get?

Kieran

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:07:49 AM4/18/11
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A quick eBay search suggests "yes".

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:59:11 +0100, Martin Klang wrote

spooq

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:08:13 AM4/18/11
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Blanks - easy to get?

Matte

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Apr 18, 2011, 11:08:23 AM4/18/11
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Please god, will someone consider the blanks?
www.hda1.co.uk


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Elliot West

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Apr 18, 2011, 12:00:37 PM4/18/11
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"Don't you worry about blank, you let me worry about blank."

Martin Klang

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Apr 18, 2011, 12:05:45 PM4/18/11
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alright, alright, enough already!

yes there was a 1min 9sec gap which I agree is unacceptable.
I am clearly getting old, no longer capable of full duplex messaging.

/m

Sci

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Apr 18, 2011, 12:25:27 PM4/18/11
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Not huge. Base is about 35cm square? I haven't actually measured it.
It's fairly heavy though. All steel & cast iron.
I have reassembled it as I've had a couple of email enquiries.

http://www.sci-fi-fox.com/offsitelinked/Keycutter1.jpg
http://www.sci-fi-fox.com/offsitelinked/Keycutter2.jpg

It needs a new cutting disk (about 1.25" dia, IIRC), a clamp making for
the master-key holder (piece of steel with holes in, two bolts, a
spring. Copy key-blank clamp.), and a thumbscrew or two to lock the
clamp swing-arm (probably 3/8" whitworth, I'll check my bolts bin).

The wiring could use tidying up and a new plug, but it turns over fine
and before I lost the cutting wheel I used it now and then to cut thin
brass stock.

~ Sci
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Adrian Godwin

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Apr 18, 2011, 12:56:16 PM4/18/11
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eBay allow the sale of blanks but not cutting machines ?
They're barking mad, aren't they ?

-adrian

Sci

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Apr 18, 2011, 12:59:41 PM4/18/11
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On 18/04/2011 17:56, Adrian Godwin wrote:
> eBay allow the sale of blanks but not cutting machines ?
> They're barking mad, aren't they ?
>
> -adrian

There does seem to be a non-optimal distribution of intelligence there, yes.

~ Sci
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spooq

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Apr 18, 2011, 1:00:24 PM4/18/11
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Pretty much.

Kieran

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Apr 18, 2011, 4:05:27 PM4/18/11
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:56:16 +0100, Adrian Godwin wrote

> eBay allow the sale of blanks but not cutting machines ?
> They're barking mad, aren't they ?

Some of the blanks are in football team colours; presumably the idea is that
you take your otherwise-hard-to-obtain blank to the locksm^Wcobblers.

John N

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Apr 18, 2011, 6:57:55 PM4/18/11
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blanks are not an issue we have several trading locksmiths and even a tool maker on the regulars in the picking meet.  if the key cutter is of use the the space then it may be a good source of income blanks are very cheap.  I have no idea what a key cut in london costs but i imagein its around teh £3/5 mark. 

I will be down on the 14th early again for the next lockpickers meet and I am sure we can figure something out. 

I would recomend keepign it around, if it does go for sale I have been after one but I think if you can afford the space all the locals gettign keys through the space would generate some decent cash flow.

John
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