Orange mobile says Hackers are adults-only material

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Sci

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Apr 18, 2011, 9:12:31 PM4/18/11
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Just been on the Orange website to see if I could see how long remains
on my contract before I can be rid of them and noticed my "Safeguard
parental controls" are switched on!
I had to call them last year to get that turned off after I found I
couldn't access LiveJournal, which had been declared an adult website. :P

Then I read the list of what they determine as adult content. Some
amusing and alarming!

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"We don�t think websites containing the following subjects are suitable
for young eyes and they�re automatically blocked by Orange Safeguard for
children�s protection.

Anonymizers: These sites allow you to browse the Internet and access
content anonymously.

Anorexia - Bulimia: Promoting and instigating eating disorders.

Gambling: Access to online gambling such as casinos and any other online
services that let you place bets.

Chat: Where you chat in real time to people you don�t know.

Bombs: Explaining how to prepare, make, build and use explosives and
explosive devices.

Dating: Websites for match-making where the user can meet other people -
make friends, find a partner, etc.

Forums: Where you�re invited to take part in discussions on
predetermined topics with people you don�t know.

Pornography: Websites with a pornographic or sexual content.

Racism: Sites promoting racist behaviour based on culture, race,
religion, ideology, etc.

Sects: Websites on universally acknowledged sects. Within this category
URLs are included on organizations that promote directly or indirectly:
(i) group, animal or individual injuries, (ii) esoteric practices, (iii)
content that sets a bad example for young children: that teaches or
encourages children to perform harmful acts or imitate dangerous
behaviour, (iv) content that creates feelings of fear, intimidation,
horror, or psychological terror, (v) Incitement or depiction of harm
against any individual or group based on gender, sexual orientation,
ethnic, religious or national identity.

Violence: Containing openly violent content and/or that promote violence
or defend it.

For your browsing safety Orange Safeguard also blocks the following:

Hackers: Containing info on hacking, pirated and illegal software as
well as software used for hacking.

Malware: Websites containing malicious code or programs such as viruses
Trojans etc.

Spyware: An application that collects confidential and general
information from a PC to then transmit to a third party. All this takes
place without knowledge and/or consent of the user."
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Dan W

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Apr 19, 2011, 5:29:24 AM4/19/11
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I have the same issue with Three. They refuse to show me websites for
hackdays, hackerspaces, etc and instead show a screen full of adverts
for pornography. They wont switch it off without paying them too.

Dan

On Apr 19, 2:12 am, Sci <s...@sci-fi-fox.com> wrote:
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> Just been on the Orange website to see if I could see how long remains
> on my contract before I can be rid of them and noticed my "Safeguard
> parental controls" are switched on!
> I had to call them last year to get that turned off after I found I
> couldn't access LiveJournal, which had been declared an adult website. :P
>
> Then I read the list of what they determine as adult content. Some
> amusing and alarming!
>
> - --
>
> "We don t think websites containing the following subjects are suitable
> for young eyes and they re automatically blocked by Orange Safeguard for
> children s protection.
>
> Anonymizers: These sites allow you to browse the Internet and access
> content anonymously.
>
> Anorexia - Bulimia: Promoting and instigating eating disorders.
>
> Gambling: Access to online gambling such as casinos and any other online
> services that let you place bets.
>
> Chat: Where you chat in real time to people you don t know.
>
> Bombs: Explaining how to prepare, make, build and use explosives and
> explosive devices.
>
> Dating: Websites for match-making where the user can meet other people -
> make friends, find a partner, etc.
>
> Forums: Where you re invited to take part in discussions on
> predetermined topics with people you don t know.
>
> Pornography: Websites with a pornographic or sexual content.
>
> Racism: Sites promoting racist behaviour based on culture, race,
> religion, ideology, etc.
>
> Sects: Websites on universally acknowledged sects. Within this category
> URLs are included on organizations that promote directly or indirectly:
> (i) group, animal or individual injuries, (ii) esoteric practices, (iii)
> content that sets a bad example for young children: that teaches or
> encourages children to perform harmful acts or imitate dangerous
> behaviour, (iv) content that creates feelings of fear, intimidation,
> horror, or psychological terror, (v) Incitement or depiction of harm
> against any individual or group based on gender, sexual orientation,
> ethnic, religious or national identity.
>
> Violence: Containing openly violent content and/or that promote violence
> or defend it.
>
> For your browsing safety Orange Safeguard also blocks the following:
>
> Hackers: Containing info on hacking, pirated and illegal software as
> well as software used for hacking.
>
> Malware: Websites containing malicious code or programs such as viruses
> Trojans etc.
>
> Spyware: An application that collects confidential and general
> information from a PC to then transmit to a third party. All this takes
> place without knowledge and/or consent of the user."
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Sunkzero

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Apr 19, 2011, 5:32:50 AM4/19/11
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Hmm I was going to get one of these 3 portable hotspots but this has put me off... how much do they charge for this "service" (and do they respond if threatened with court action)?
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bencoder

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Apr 19, 2011, 5:54:32 AM4/19/11
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T-mobile content lock also blocked this kind of thing. Couldn't visit
hackaday for example. Had to go into a t-mobile store to get it
disabled but was fine. I imagine the other providers also have options
to disable these blocks.

Adrian Godwin

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Apr 19, 2011, 6:02:48 AM4/19/11
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I have an orange 3G dongle which I think blocks port 666. I haven't tried it recently but you might want to check that too.

My vodafone payg phone refused to install a java app for IRC until I requested they remove the block, but there was no charge.

-adrian

M

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Apr 19, 2011, 6:06:19 AM4/19/11
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I have a three dongle, never noticed blockage, but I only use it with my ipod and for skype. I will check later to see if I have the same issues.

Mark Steward

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Apr 19, 2011, 6:23:13 AM4/19/11
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Sci <s...@sci-fi-fox.com> wrote:
Just been on the Orange website to see if I could see how long remains
on my contract before I can be rid of them and noticed my "Safeguard
parental controls" are switched on!


Welcome to the Internet of outraged mothers[1].  You'll of course notice that these are all focused on fear (the "blocking hackers" one in particular), and plenty of customers want that.  Would it be worth putting a short summary on the "tips for visitors" page[2]?

Mark


[1] and fathers, but that's not the phrase

Tim Hutt

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Apr 19, 2011, 6:44:04 AM4/19/11
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On 19 April 2011 10:32, Sunkzero <sunk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm I was going to get one of these 3 portable hotspots but this has put me
> off... how much do they charge for this "service" (and do they respond if
> threatened with court action)?

The unfiltered service is the same price, but if you change from the
filtered one -- which they give you by default -- to the unfiltered
one you get charged a couple of pounds.

Sam Kelly

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Apr 19, 2011, 6:48:17 AM4/19/11
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I had the same problem with Vodafone's mobile internet (though I haven't checked how they are with "hack" or "hacker"); they wanted to charge me for turning off content control online, but then when I phoned them up and asked them to then they did it for free. I think the "reasoning" was that the charge made to a credit card was proof that I was old enough to have a credit card, and thus old enough to look at pr0n.

Cheers, Sam

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Jaimal Chohan

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Apr 19, 2011, 7:15:42 AM4/19/11
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On Orange, you can turn off the block via the on-line account management pages, for free.

Katie Sutton

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Apr 19, 2011, 10:12:49 AM4/19/11
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On 19 April 2011 11:48, Sam Kelly <s...@eithin.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Tim Hutt <tdh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 19 April 2011 10:32, Sunkzero <sunk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hmm I was going to get one of these 3 portable hotspots but this has put
>> > me
>> > off... how much do they charge for this "service" (and do they respond
>> > if
>> > threatened with court action)?
>>
>> The unfiltered service is the same price, but if you change from the
>> filtered one -- which they give you by default -- to the unfiltered
>> one you get charged a couple of pounds.
>
> I had the same problem with Vodafone's mobile internet (though I haven't
> checked how they are with "hack" or "hacker"); they wanted to charge me for
> turning off content control online, but then when I phoned them up and asked
> them to then they did it for free. I think the "reasoning" was that the
> charge made to a credit card was proof that I was old enough to have a
> credit card, and thus old enough to look at pr0n.
>
> Cheers, Sam

I don't know what the reasoning is but when I went into a Vodafone
shop they didn't even ask for my card, they just took one look at me,
decided I was over 18 and switched the block off. *shrug*


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it." ~ William Gibson

Mike

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Apr 20, 2011, 6:09:39 AM4/20/11
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 03:12:49PM +0100, Katie Sutton wrote:
>
> I don't know what the reasoning is but when I went into a Vodafone
> shop they didn't even ask for my card, they just took one look at me,
> decided I was over 18 and switched the block off. *shrug*
>

It's depressing when you get to that age isn't it?

Mike.

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Katie Sutton

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Apr 20, 2011, 8:35:35 AM4/20/11
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I'm only 23!

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