First Nanode runs code!

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Ken Boak

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Mar 29, 2011, 3:27:35 PM3/29/11
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Hot off the press tonight is the Nanode - a £20 Network Applications Node.

It's Arduino shield compatible and offers lowest cost entry to internet connectivity and Internet of Things (IOT) sensor networks.

There's 10 beta boards being distributed for application development, and we hope to have a public demo of internetworked nodes during the Pachube Hackathon on April 8th/9th.

After that we will be producing a batch of 100 - 200 boards and offer them on general sale at a sub £5 bare board price. You then buy the remainder of parts for about £12 and solder it up - takes just over an hour.

The Nanode is being offered to Hackspaces at a rock bottom price, so that it can be included in workshops, Hackathons and other IOT events.


Nanode - Just Make It!



Ken B


Interested parties should contact me about pre-ordering boards from the next batch.  We hope to take this to China to get the best price on 200 boards.

Ken Boak

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Mar 29, 2011, 3:28:37 PM3/29/11
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Mark Williams

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Mar 29, 2011, 6:31:08 PM3/29/11
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That looks very well constructed and is another reason why I should
investigate the Hackspace when I have more time. So far I've been
lurking on this list with vague plans of attempting to build among
other things, an embedded Linux device for AV streaming. I've no
formal electronics training to speak of, only experience gained
through dismantling and cannibalising various devices andbits of
equipment, so you all seem impressively knowledgeable .

On a related note, this looks quite nice:
http://liliputing.com/2011/03/toradexs-xiilun-claimes-to-be-worlds-smallest-atom-e6xx-pc.html

Cheers,
Mark.

Michael Shiloh

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Mar 29, 2011, 7:52:00 PM3/29/11
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Looks immensely cool. Do you have a technical description page or
something like that? I'd love to share this with friends.

When will you be ready to ship overseas? I'm in California.

On 03/29/2011 12:28 PM, Ken Boak wrote:
> Doh - Forgot the Link
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> http://sustburbia.blogspot.com/2011/03/nanode-its-bit-small-isnt-it.html
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> Ken B
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> On 29 March 2011 20:27, Ken Boak <ken....@gmail.com

> <mailto:ken....@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hot off the press tonight is the Nanode - a �20 Network Applications
> Node.
>
> It's Arduino shield compatible and offers lowest cost entry to
> internet connectivity and Internet of Things (IOT) sensor networks.
>
> There's 10 beta boards being distributed for application
> development, and we hope to have a public demo of internetworked
> nodes during the Pachube Hackathon on April 8th/9th.
>
> After that we will be producing a batch of 100 - 200 boards and
> offer them on general sale at a sub �5 bare board price. You then
> buy the remainder of parts for about �12 and solder it up - takes
> just over an hour.
>
> The Nanode is being offered to Hackspaces at a rock bottom price, so
> that it can be included in workshops, Hackathons and other IOT events.
>
>
> Nanode - Just Make It!
>
>
>
> Ken B
>
>
> Interested parties should contact me about pre-ordering boards from
> the next batch. We hope to take this to China to get the best price
> on 200 boards.
>
>

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Earthshine

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Mar 30, 2011, 3:00:35 AM3/30/11
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Looks interesting. I'd like to see a demo of these at the space
sometime please Ken.

Elliot West

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Mar 30, 2011, 3:24:49 AM3/30/11
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On 30 March 2011 00:52, Michael Shiloh <michaels...@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks immensely cool. Do you have a technical description page or something like that? I'd love to share this with friends.

Michael,

I believe this is Ken's wiki page for the project:

Elliot West

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Mar 30, 2011, 3:26:00 AM3/30/11
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Ken Boak

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Mar 30, 2011, 3:30:08 AM3/30/11
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Michael,

Good to hear from you again.   Perhaps you remember me from providing the igntion circuit for the APL Lister/Woodgas project?

The Nanode has been designed with several key aims in mind.

1.   Has to be easy to build - all through hole, readily available components. Can be put together in a couple of hours by anyone with basic soldering skills and simple tools.
2.  Retails a fair degree of compatability with the Arduino and Arduino IDE.  I/O connectors accept Arduino shelds footprint.
3. Additional I/O connectors can be accessed with shield in place and allow all of the I/O to be plugged into a breadboard with a SIL row of headers - "Breadboard Friendly"
4.  Provides lowest cost route to ethernet/web connectivity using ENC28J60 ethernet controller.
5.  Extra connector allows ModernDevice Serial LCD controller or a 3 wire r/c servo to be plugged straight in.
6.  Runs a "multdrop" serial bus - allowing Nanodes to be connected together and communicate back to a "Master" ethernet enabled unit using 4 core telephone cable.  Cable provides power and comms.
7.  Can be run as a minimum-cost Arduno clone, without the ethernet controller or magjack fitted.
8.  Intended for Open Source Licencing - hackspaces can access the board files and build instructions and make up their own - Ideal project for teaching workshops, constructon practice and introducing the principles of microcontroller web connectivty.
9.  Lowest possble cost.
10.  Uses readily available firmware from Tuxgraphics, NuElectronics and other notable Arduino/Ethernet developers


I am currently putting together a build pack and wiki .  Will make this avalable ASAP.

Yes I will put you on the list for some of the next batch of boards and ship to California.



Ken



Ken Boak

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Mar 30, 2011, 3:39:47 AM3/30/11
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Elliot,

Thanks for highlighting those links.

There are quite a few posts on my blog - from about August last year relating to the Nanode and the early prototype - the Etherduino.

Start here:  http://sustburbia.blogspot.com/2010_08_01_archive.html

I'd like to do a major edit on the Hackspace Wiki project page - or start a new page and use it as a central repository for the Nanode build instructions and resources.

If anyone at London Hackspace would be interested in samples from the second batch of boards, I'm looking to fund a batch of 100 boards in the next few weeks.  These bare boards will be offered at £5 to Hackspace members,  and to others at a 50% premium, with any funds going to London Hackspace.  Boards will have a custom LHS graphic screenprint.




Ken


Elliot West

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Mar 30, 2011, 3:44:20 AM3/30/11
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On 30 March 2011 08:39, Ken Boak <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
If anyone at London Hackspace would be interested in samples from the second batch of boards, I'm looking to fund a batch of 100 boards in the next few weeks.  These bare boards will be offered at £5 to Hackspace members,  and to others at a 50% premium, with any funds going to London Hackspace.  Boards will have a custom LHS graphic screenprint.

Excellent! I'm definitely interested! 

Andy "Bob" Brockhurst

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Mar 30, 2011, 3:59:01 AM3/30/11
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On 30/03/2011 08:39, Ken Boak wrote:
> If anyone at London Hackspace would be interested in samples from the
> second batch of boards, I'm looking to fund a batch of 100 boards in the
> next few weeks. These bare boards will be offered at £5 to Hackspace
> members, and to others at a 50% premium, with any funds going to London
> Hackspace. Boards will have a custom LHS graphic screenprint.
>
> Ken

I'd definitely be interested in a couple of boards.

Bob
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Ken Boak

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Mar 30, 2011, 4:14:47 AM3/30/11
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Elliot, Bob,

I'll start a "Waiting List" for boards on the Project Wiki.

When we reach about 50 boards we can then send off for a batch.

UK production cost is £3.34 in batches of 100, and £2.85 in batches of 200.  I am currently investigating lower cost Chinese production.

I would be very happy to offer the design to the LHS to use as a fund-raising kit.  In batches of £100 we can get the component cost below £12.  These could be sold for proft, offered at "Arduino Networking" workshops - as part of the package, or just sold to the public to raise funds for the Hackspace.  It could be the first of a range of small, useful Hackspace branded products offered.

In exchange, I'd be looking for assistance with EagleCAD to mprove upon the existing design, and to design a custom LHS logo to be included on the screenprint.  There is a certan amount of work involved in kitting up parts and shippng to customers - something that I have done in the past, but due to pressures of other work, have no spare time right now.

I'm hoping to have a couple of boards available for the Hackspace in time for the Pachube Internet of Things Hackathon, and looking for volunteers to do some beta testing and application development on them.



Ken



Mike Harrison

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Mar 30, 2011, 4:32:52 AM3/30/11
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:14:47 +0100, you wrote:

>Elliot, Bob,
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>I'll start a "Waiting List" for boards on the Project Wiki.
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>When we reach about 50 boards we can then send off for a batch.
>
>UK production cost is £3.34 in batches of 100, and £2.85 in batches of 200.
>I am currently investigating lower cost Chinese production.

For Chinese production I would highly reccommend www.pcbcart.com
For UK production www.screenbond.co.uk are the cheapest I know of.

Ken Boak

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Mar 30, 2011, 4:34:55 AM3/30/11
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Thanks Mike,

Will investigate.



Ken

Nigel Worsley

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Mar 30, 2011, 7:23:08 AM3/30/11
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> UK production cost is �3.34 in batches of 100, and �2.85 in batches of 200.
> I am currently investigating lower cost Chinese production.

You can get them for about �1.50 in the UK in a batch of 25: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/320588512128

Or about �1.10 for a larger batch from China: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/250408720546
Even cheaper if you don't get clobbered for the VAT and handling fee.

Nigle


Mike Harrison

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Mar 30, 2011, 7:27:32 AM3/30/11
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PCBCART are very good at not attracting VAT - I only get charged on production shipments of sevelar
kilograms

Ken Boak

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Mar 30, 2011, 7:36:59 AM3/30/11
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Mike, Nigle,

Thanks for the tip.

I suggest that Spirit would be a good next step - we can get 20 boards onto 1sq ft.  Allowing for VAT and carriage this is £2.20 per board.

Once we have a few more in circulation and ironed out any bugs, we can go for a bulk order from China from PCB cart.

There are a few board modifcations I need to do before the next batch, and possibly some additional features - board space permitting.


Ken

Nigel Worsley

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Mar 30, 2011, 8:13:58 AM3/30/11
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> I suggest that Spirit would be a good next step - we can get 20 boards onto
>1sq ft. Allowing for VAT and carriage this is �2.20 per board.

VAT is included in the price, so that works out at �1.85 each.

Adam L

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Mar 30, 2011, 9:40:04 AM3/30/11
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Ken,

The Nanode looks awesome.  I really need to get through my list of projects so I can make time to play with one of these.

As a small aside comment/question to the general list.  Does anybody think that in a situation like this it would be better to get more of the PCBs made in the UK even if they cost more due to the general economic situation?  Obviously most of the components are going to come from China anyway but a couple of hundred £s of orders might be worth it to a more local company.  Plus lower carbon costs on the shipping.

Not interested in having a big debate of Globalisation Vs Protectionism just curious.

Adam






Ken Boak

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Mar 30, 2011, 9:50:15 AM3/30/11
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Adam,

Thanks for your interest in the Nanode.

I agree that it would be good to keep in wthin the UK, and use it as a possible earner/job creation for people involved at the Hackspace Foundation.

I'm not a regular attendee at the space - because I live a fair way out of town, and  offering the Hackspace first rights to Nanode as a fundraiser is just my way of helping out a little with funding.

If anyone wants to take it on, as a commercial project then they should contact me.  As I said earlier, there is a fair amount of effort in ordering components, kitting and shipping out to customers. This is not something I have the time avialable for - right now.   I have invested £300 in the first 10 Nanode prototypes, and a couple of weekends design work. I'm happy to make a couple of quid on each board produced by way of return.

The UK price of £1.85 per board for a batch of 20 boards from Spirit Electronics is a good price and will certainly delay the move to a Chinese supplier.



Ken

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Mar 30, 2011, 10:32:52 AM3/30/11
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Once the first batch is ordered, would anyone else be keen to pool
our component needs together and buy a stash of parts?

Another project that I have been investigating on the side was
building some cheap power-over-ethernet injectors. I have not made
much progress yet but these would complement the nanode nicely.

-Steve

Michael Shiloh

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Mar 30, 2011, 11:46:45 AM3/30/11
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Indeed! I thought your name was familiar but couldn't remember from
where. How nice to be in touch again.

I do a lot of teaching with Arduino, including at The Shipyard, and I
think this would be an excellent Arduino item with which to learn how to
use Ethernet.

Thanks for making this, and I look forward to purchasing one when it's
ready.

Michael

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Chris Roberts

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Apr 18, 2011, 2:17:51 AM4/18/11
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Jumping in on this one.

I like this project very much! I happen to have one of the
tuxgraphics boards mentioned. It's nice n all, however had
considerable problems with the voltage regulator on it. It's a LM2937
- had problems with it overheating to the point I had to put a
heatsink on it. Never worked out what exactly was wrong about it.
Also managed to brick the ATMega (think the design orignally specs
168) at some point - and haven't touched it for years. From what I
remember, the TCP/IP stack was somewhat unstable at the time. Made me
want to write a new one. Then took a look at Microchip's IP stack
they provide for use with the ENC28J60's and got horrifically scared.

For the mean time, I have access to prototyping tools (PCB etching
facilities at Uni) - I'd be quite interested to try building one of
these myself. I suspect I've got all the required parts (MagJack I'll
scavenge from the tuxgraphics board, everything else seems pretty
standard parts bin fare). At the very least, I may build up and
equivilant schematic to develop with on a breadboard.

Reason being, I volunteer at a student radio station which may well
want some little network enabled devices - we were planning on getting
Arduino + ethernet shields but it really starts to add up when you
want say 10 of them. My plan was to put together something PIC based
(as the volunteers have a little more experience with them), however
using the Arduino firmware would be better since all the build tools
are free and easy to set up.

In any case, would be good to see this project get off the ground,
would be more than happy to help any way I can. If I can set myself
up with a development platform I shall see if I can start on a IP
stack that works in a sensible way for the Arduino environment. Just
need a schematic and I'll be on my way!

Chris Roberts
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Ken Boak

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Apr 18, 2011, 2:44:11 AM4/18/11
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Chris,
 
It would be good to have you on board.  Would you like me to add your name to our list of Nanode  developers?
 
Andrew Lindsay from near Newbury,  http://blog.thiseldo.co.uk/?p=504 has taken the Tuxgraphics library and rewritten it to include DNS, DHCP and other improvements. Before you embark on writing a new one it would be worth seeing how far Andrew has got.
 
Sam Carlisle is working on a serial configuration front end, with parameters being written to E2.  There is some development by the guys at openenergymonitor.org to use it as ethernet communinications for their formerly Arduino based energy monitor.
 
The first volume batch of pcbs will have provision for a MAC chip, and an SPI memory - either SRAM, Flash or FRAM, so that memory for buffers or serving web pages is much increased.
 
The first Nanode prototype was built on a breadboard using the ATmega328, the ENC28J60 and a 74HC125 - details on my blog - starting here
 
 
 
The schematics are on Thingiverse - here  http://www.thingiverse.com/Monsonite
 
It might be easier to replace the ATmega and voltage regulator on the Tux board - the Tux is pretty much compatible.   We are purchasing a batch of 100 pcbs in order to get a bulk discount on pcbs and components, you would be welcome to join us in that scheme - details on the hackspace Nanode project page.
 
 
Ken
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