Jumbotron service manual

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Mike Harrison

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Oct 6, 2011, 6:02:03 AM10/6/11
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I have a PDF of the service manual for the Jumbotron modules -
There's enough info in there to repair & hack internally, but minimal info on the protocol.

http://electricstuff.co.uk/Jumbotron
It's about 18 MBytes.

I'll probably only leave this online for a few days to save bandwidth - if someone can host it
elsewhere please do so & let me know the URL.

tom

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Oct 6, 2011, 7:24:06 AM10/6/11
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quick, someone dump this on babbage!

Also, do we actually have any of these left?

Mark Steward

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Oct 6, 2011, 7:25:10 AM10/6/11
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Done.

Tom Mudd

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Oct 6, 2011, 8:41:48 AM10/6/11
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More Jumbotrons in Whitechapel right now.

Heading to Hackspace this lunchtime.


Could anyone give me a hand loading them in ?


Is there a trolley or sack barrow we could use ?


Cheers


Tom

Ivan K.

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Oct 6, 2011, 11:13:43 AM10/6/11
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Wow. this is awesome. Unfortunately still no clue as to the internal
protocol or it speed.

But it does look like something to do with NTSC and PAL.

And some kind of custom hardware protocol that has a timing signal in
it


-ik

Mike Harrison

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Oct 6, 2011, 1:04:00 PM10/6/11
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It's decoded by what looks like a custom chip - CXD106 - there's a block diagram on p63/4 of the
PDF.
Looks like manchester code or similar, with 10:8 encoding to provide a DC-free signal to keep the
isolation transformers happy.

The encoding is probably not very complex, but without a sample datastream to look at, it would take
a lot of fiddling to work out, especially as there are probably CRC checks.
Looking at the line receiver used, I'd guess a data rate of the order of 1-10 mbits/sec.

I have the manual for a control unit, but not yet looked to see if there are any clues in there. It
looks like the control unit is also used for newer LED screens, so less likely to appear at scrap
values than the displays.

BTW I noticed that the supply voltage spec is 208V +/-10% (standard for USA 3-phase), so 240 of Her
Majesty's Volts may be a touch on the high side - considering the original cost of these I wonder if
they were maybe run from a stabiliser/transformer in the UK ?

Tom Mudd

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Oct 7, 2011, 4:05:47 AM10/7/11
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Interesting note on the voltage.

I can confirm though, no step down transformer was used on the UK
installs.

If anything, the vac was probably a bit high. A lot of football
stadiums have their own substation and when flood lights / catering
outlets aren't on, I've seen 260 vac rms in some stadiums.

Should be fine on a bit of British square pin 13 amp action.


Tom

Tweaker

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Oct 7, 2011, 6:35:22 AM10/7/11
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Hmmm,

Any chance HS could have a live screen/Jumbotron facing the railway
track,outside?
For commuters on trains and their live tweets/SMS through a HS
gateway?

T

Jonty Wareing

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Oct 7, 2011, 11:28:07 AM10/7/11
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On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 03:35:22AM -0700, Tweaker wrote:
> Any chance HS could have a live screen/Jumbotron facing the railway
> track,outside?
> For commuters on trains and their live tweets/SMS through a HS
> gateway?

While that would be ace, I think it would probably get abused. Some kind
of publicly accessible display would be awesome though.

Maybe we could have something interactive that people standing on hoxton
station platform could play with? Pong maybe?

--jonty

Adrian Godwin

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Oct 10, 2011, 4:36:30 PM10/10/11
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Jonty Wareing <jo...@jonty.co.uk> wrote:

> Maybe we could have something interactive that people standing on hoxton
> station platform could play with? Pong maybe?
>

Fantastic idea !

I finally got around to playing with one of these. Lovely things. Does
anyone mind if I take some more ?

-adrian

Russ Garrett

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Sep 12, 2012, 9:00:47 AM9/12/12
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Hi Barbara,

Unfortunately I believe what you're looking for is the manual for the
Jumbotron controller, and what we have are just the Jumbotron display
modules (which aren't intelligent enough to ask for a password). Sorry
we can't be of more help.

Cheers,

Russ

On 12 September 2012 12:14, bsw <bsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any way you can look in that manual and tell me if it says anything about a
> default password? I noted in today's paper that a Church in Orlando,
> Florida is having an "issue" with one of these things and just happened to
> run across this group. Thought you might be able to help.
>
> http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Orlando-church-tries-to-crack-code-for-old-Amway-Arena-Jumbotron/-/1637132/16567158/-/gy2ovcz/-/index.html
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barbara
--
Russ Garrett
ru...@garrett.co.uk
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