We'll probably have a decent lab table sometime next week. It is the modern type with the back panel area. The question is - where shall we place it ?
In the real world - it exhaust would exit high on the roof - with a large no-go area around it -- but that is obviously not possible - nor is the rest of the space suitable for that :) So next best, I guess, would be to have it vent on the backside - i.e. the smoking balcony - as opposed to the normal side.
Any thoughts ? Does it make sense to use this as an excuse to start a bio-hacking corner (where we'd also coat the floor a bit, etc) ?
If it won't fit into the designated toilet, maybe it could go just
outside (where the small lathe is located) and vent through a duct
like the laser cutter.
Fume cupboard .. solvent fumes .. smoking balcony ..
Grin :) yes :) -- but that brings up a much larger issue. And really - if there is even the most remote risk of that (and at those volumes) - then we certainly should do a lot more health&safety, training, registering, drills and regulation. Our current space is not suitable for that at all.
So where to place it ?
- In the soldering area (as it is also a very nice soldering and electronics table) - down side is that we'd ideally want to contain the bio hacking to the other room.
- dirt room - roughly where the tools are. This is nice and near the water - and near the emergency exit - which is not bad. And easy to vent.
- remove the wall in the biohacking/darkroom (as we did on the other side) - and fit in that room. Would fit very nicely - and again - venting and water is easy.
Suggestions. Is this something we can pick up at tonights biohacking evening ?
It looks amazing!
I'm keen on option 3 because it's a nice compromise between noise, dust, and keeping the biohackers contained somewhere. Also because it might mean sledge-hammering something.
If you mean the one between the sink and toilet, removing this is part
of the overall plan - so if there are no objections I think it is safe
to go ahead with it.
> If you mean the one between the sink and toilet, removing this is part
> of the overall plan - so if there are no objections I think it is safe
> to go ahead with it.
That is indeed the very one I was thinking off.
* the toilet cistern has also been taken out and is on the balcony (forgot to mention that earlier)
* there will be enough space on the outward facing wall for both the new workbench and the environmental chamber
* we will be able to store the toilet under the new workbench
* we may be able to reposition the sink with a bit of extra pipe, if we wanted to
* this leaves both corners of the inward-facing wall free for darkroom equipment.
Let me know if I can add any more details.
The workbench is set up, at the moment a few inches away from the outward facing wall because that still has pipes attached. And the extraction fan needs an exhaust pipe, in the meantime it's more a circulation fan as spooq pointed out.
Let's figure out who can help make this happen.
It's pretty. And big. Will make a good lab space.
- Thanks to all involved. That was a most amazing bit of teamwork. Remove a wall; remove a window, toilet, cistern, doorframe, window, clean the room
- And then mount a complex piece of machinery inside it - larger than the door. And heavy.
- And all that in just a few hours.
Most impressed. Thanks !
- We may have made a design mistake with the inverted cup to seal off the toilet outlet; it may be able to get sucked into the duct.
=> todo: check that that is not the case; or if the case fix/tape-etc.
- We forgot to put the reservoir inside. It is still on the balcony.
=> todo: rescue.
Somewhat urgent - blocking use.
- Right now the desk is not screwed to the bottom frame. I think this needs to be done. No idea how. Suspect needs drilling some holes.
- The left glass panel (with bolts taped to it) has not been secured.
- Buy a proper plastic cap for the small sewer duct in the corner; and a bigger one for the toilet one. They sort of look like this
http://www.drainageonline.co.uk/Land-Drainage/Land-Drain-End-Cap.htm or get the fancier screw cap one and some glue.
- If we're postponing the wash basis - the taps should probably be removed and replaced by these:
- When we leave the space - toilet and basis need to go back. Basin we likely will mount - but toilet is a bit of a pain.
=> do we keep it - or do we donate the ?? 50 ?? UKP (guessing!) needed to buy a new one - and put it in the hack space piggy bank. Or do we put it in the other toilet for now ?
- We should be able to move the thing much closer to the wall. Problem is that the plumbing is in the way. Various options.
- slide it towards the wall and shorten the frame.
- remove the bottom frame - and mount a simple horizontal beam on the wall with a few anchors to take the bulk of the weight; and then two simple plates Left and Right with generous holes for the plumming. If you'd put a shelf between them you'd have plenty of stiffness. We have plenty of double plywood plates to do so. Alternatively - this arrangement could be across the full width.
- muck around with the metal frame - but cutting large holes may not be fun. So that it fits around the plumming.
- Outlet to the outside. Should not be too hard
- a bit of plywood or similar to ceiling and sides - and leaving the window(s) simply open behind it all.
- heroic cutting of a large hole in the metal top - and running a flexi-duct out.
- The room has no power :)
- If you open the panel on the top of the lights - you'll find a lot of fancy electronics, fuses and what not. These let you add additional lights, UV, etc with ease - it is all prewired; so any light can just be wired up with simple 2 wires - good grounding is supplied; and the switches at the front are already there.
- We propably want to either use the pre-wiring to put some power sockets in the top aera; or under the desk.
- Wash basis could be moved to the side or the other wall and be remounted. OR alternatively - a hole could be cut in the fumehood desk.
- Perhaps put in a very easy to clean bit of vynil. And seal it to the walls to make keeping this room very clean easy. Probably also give walls and ceiling a coat of water-disliking paint then.
Note that the use of 'we' in above is not the royal we - but almost 'you' -- as I'll be on holidays next week :) So would appreciate if folks pick this up. And an ack on the list of the 'urgent' things would be much appreciated!
Thanks all that helped !
Hi all,A very hastily uploaded set of photos can be found here: http://liedra.net/misc/Biohackspace/ I'll endeavour to make it look a little more presentable when I get home from work.
There may be a cheaper source, but a quick look around Screwfix
suggests more like £200-£300. So worth hanging onto the old one if
Ok. I checked Argos - and they are 59 including all the bits around it. But fine to hang on to it - suggest putting it in the other toilnet next door ?
I just got a pipe cap from Leyland and replaced the improvised seal with it, using solvent cement. I've turned off the water in #23 (both pipes) to let this settle; and left a note on the sink to not turn it back on before Saturday mid-day (the glue instructions suggested to let it dry for 24h.)
> - We forgot to put the reservoir inside. It is still on the balcony.
> => todo: rescue.
The water reservoir is in the left-hand toilet in #23, the toilet and sink in the new wet lab.