How yahoo killed Flickr

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thomas hurley

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May 26, 2013, 2:29:54 PM5/26/13
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Hi, now that I'm moving my images over to ipernity because Flickr has become a corporate desert which I now feel holds it's users in contempt I came across this well written article, it's quite long but I feel worth the read, here's the link: http://gizmodo.com/5910223/how-yahoo-killed-flickr-and-lost-the-internet read it if you have a mind to........

Tom

Jane Hobson

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May 26, 2013, 2:58:30 PM5/26/13
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I have a nascent account on ipernity too - I'll move over properly if Seaside Appreciation Society, The Usual Suspects and Flickr Meetups groups move over as the only reason I'm still on Flickr is for arranging seaside trips! (It used to be because Flickr had great SEO, which drove traffic to my website....)

As of the day the switchover was made I downgraded to free, deleted all my contacts (to stop the home page problems and to stop my work polluting the home pages of others) and made all my work private. I have no intention of driving advertising revenue for them on the back of my professional work, especially given Ms Meyer doesn't believe professionals exist now!

I have this niggling feeling that the reason that they went to the ridiculous 'justified' photostream layout is because their real clients are not us, but picture editors/buyers, searching for content to license for peanuts (hence the previous, ridiculous, Getty licensing fiasco). It looks shit for our work, but will enable someone searching for a specific image to do so faster. That's why they are never going to listen to our rational arguments about negative space being necessary to appreciate each individual photograph. It's irrelevant to them. They don't want each photograph to be seen individually - they want quick evaluation on a batch basis, to speed up the search process. WEA RE NOT THE CUSTOMERS/CLIENTS.

BTW - the linked-to article is over a year old. This indicates that this latest bollox-up is deliberate. They want serious (older) photographers to go - they are interested in the hipster brigade who a/provide work for peanuts via the Getty licensing system because they think that content should be free but if they are going to get paid then peanuts is the going rate, right?  and b/ are likely to click through/be receptive to the kind of advertising they are going to carry (I can't see any advertising yet but I bet it fits the demographic perfectly when I do).  It's basically going to be one humungous picture library where the contributors are advertised to, as well as being ripped off by the Getty Monster.

(My ranty two penn'orth!)

J x

On 26 May 2013 19:29, thomas hurley <tom.h...@live.com> wrote:
Hi, now that I'm moving my images over to ipernity because Flickr has become a corporate desert which I now feel holds it's users in contempt I came across this well written article, it's quite long but I feel worth the read, here's the link: http://gizmodo.com/5910223/how-yahoo-killed-flickr-and-lost-the-internet read it if you have a mind to........

Tom

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Lisa Singh

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May 27, 2013, 8:40:16 AM5/27/13
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I think the new look is because Yahoo loosened its grip on Flickr to
be honest. I just don't particularly like the new look, mostly because
there's no intelligence in the contacts' photo display - it should be
like FB newsfeed and feature the people with whom you exchange
comments first and so on. I miss the bit of home screen where I can
see the comments that have been left on my photos as well. They seem
to be demoting social aspects. The comments bit on the original home
page should have been re-written to allow you to respond to the
comments right on the home page instead of having to go to the photos
page. Likewise they should make groups as much of the home page as
friends pics.

I guess in the new-media aping it's more Pinterest than Facebook
they're going after...

On 5/26/13, Jane Hobson <hobso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a nascent account on ipernity too - I'll move over properly if
> Seaside Appreciation Society, The Usual Suspects and Flickr Meetups groups
> move over as the only reason I'm still on Flickr is for arranging seaside
> trips! (It used to be because Flickr had great SEO, which drove traffic to
> my website....)
>
> As of the day the switchover was made I downgraded to free, deleted all my
> contacts (to stop the home page problems and to stop my work polluting the
> home pages of others) and made all my work private. I have no intention of
> driving advertising revenue for them on the back of my professional work,
> especially given Ms Meyer doesn't believe professionals exist now!
>
> I have this niggling feeling that the reason that they went to the
> ridiculous 'justified' photostream layout is because their real clients are
> not us, but picture editors/buyers, searching for content to license for
> peanuts (hence the previous, ridiculous, Getty licensing fiasco). It looks
> shit for our work, but will enable someone searching for a specific image
> to do so faster. That's why they are never going to listen to our rational
> arguments about negative space being necessary to appreciate each
> individual photograph. It's irrelevant to them. They don't *want* each
> <http://www.janehobson.com/>http://janehobson.wordpress.com/
> 07798 794205

Wolfgang Zimmerman

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May 28, 2013, 4:11:24 PM5/28/13
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ipernity = (almost) like the old Flickr, only smaller, which is not necessarily a bad thing

A breath of fresh air with regard to the way images are displayed, especially after having been assaulted by the "Flickr way". Responsive owners too by the look of it.

Huge outcry against banners/awards.

Some teething problem, mainly due to the sudden influx of migrants from Flickr, which also started lively open discussions. Cool feature, posts have a translate button attached should a post not be in English. Hit the button, et viola :)

Early days, but looking promising.

From her to ipernity, or better still, Liberté, égalité, fraternité, ipernity  :)

Yes, they are French.





On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM, thomas hurley <tom.h...@live.com> wrote:
Hi, now that I'm moving my images over to ipernity because Flickr has become a corporate desert which I now feel holds it's users in contempt I came across this well written article, it's quite long but I feel worth the read, here's the link: http://gizmodo.com/5910223/how-yahoo-killed-flickr-and-lost-the-internet read it if you have a mind to........

Tom

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