Splicing time intervals as a new sumti type

[Gleki Arxokuna]

In Lojban there is no universal method of saying:

this hour, this morning, today, next day, tomorrow, next hour.

Ofc. we have {bavlamdei} but they have the same problem as {PAmei}, namely, you can't extract the number of time periods that the necessary segment is apart from the referenced one.

E.g. "the day before yesterday" is definitely connected with the number 2 (or 3 if you count starting from today) however there is no way to extract this 2 from a lujvo meaning "the day before yesterday" (like {pruprulamdei}).

We can't use {za} either. If it's 23:00 then tomorrow is not {baza lo djedi be li pa} because tomorrow starts in only one hour.

So here we have a different concept of splitting time.

Unlike {cacra}, {djedi}, {nanca} that split the time into intervals of a fixed length (that can even overlap)

such concepts as "tomorrow", "this hour" split time into spliced (put in order end to end) intervals by default from midnight for "day", the beginning of the year (e.g. January 1) for "month" etc.

One workaround is {ca lo 2001moi nanca}, which is cheating since it's not stated that those one-year time intervals don't overlap. Other methods like cmevla for names of years described in L4B share the same problem with {cabdei}, {bavlamdei}.

What is more, I found a bunch of gismu that have this splicing interval sumti type:

cerni1 (cerni = x1 is a morning of day x2 ...)

citsi

crisa

critu

donri

dunra

murse

nicte

temci

vanci

vensa

So I suggest that we use either a cmavo or a jvajvo-generating prefix for {djedi}, {cacra} ... to change to splicing intervals when we need them.

[selpa'i]

la gleki cu cusku lo se lidne

> So I suggest that we use either a cmavo or a jvajvo-generating prefix
> for {djedi}, {cacra} ... to change to splicing intervals when we need them.

ko catlu

http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/detydei
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/detna'a

.i mi na se melbi lo nu zo detydei jai sarcu .i ku'i ie zo djedi (to pe
lo cabna gimste toi) na banzu .i lu pa roi ro djedi li'u na'e drani gi'e
ku'i cafne se cusku .i lu pa roi ro lo djedi li'u dranymau gi'e ku'i na
sai prane .i lu pa roi ro detydei li'u drani gi'e no'e melbi mi .i xu lo
nu da'i cnegau lo smuni be zo djedi cu xlali .i mi na djuno

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

[Gleki Arxokuna]

2014-08-06 12:47 GMT+04:00 selpa'i <sel...@gmx.de>:

la gleki cu cusku lo se lidne

So I suggest that we use either a cmavo or a jvajvo-generating prefix
for {djedi}, {cacra} ... to change to splicing intervals when we need them.

ko catlu

http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/detydei
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/detna'a

.i mi na se melbi lo nu zo detydei jai sarcu .i ku'i ie zo djedi (to pe lo cabna gimste toi) na banzu .i lu pa roi ro djedi li'u na'e drani gi'e ku'i cafne se cusku .i lu pa roi ro lo djedi li'u dranymau gi'e ku'i na sai prane .i lu pa roi ro detydei li'u drani

ua je'e i ie danfu (to mi na pu djuno zo'ei lo do valsi) 

i ku'i lo si'o pruprulamdei e lo si'o pruprupruprulamdei cu mo

gi'e no'e melbi mi .i xu lo nu da'i cnegau lo smuni be zo djedi cu xlali .i mi na djuno

 

li'a va'ocaku lo cacra be li 24 cu dunli  lo djedi be li pa

i lo nu cnegau zo'u ei lanli lo korpora i zo cerni splaisi ditcu brivla ije ku'i zo djedi jai malfunca

i ku'i zo cacra e zo snidu zo'u mo i fa si'a lo cabna smuni cu jai vajni