LLG Annual meeting - formal announcement

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Bob LeChevalier

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Aug 7, 2010, 10:03:29 PM8/7/10
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The annual meeting of the Logical Language Group Inc, will commence on
21 August 2010 at approximately 1PM EDT, on the llg-members list. The
meeting will be conducted by email. Members should be checking their
members list email at least daily.

I am calling for anyone (member or non-member) who would like to see
some topic discussed at the meeting either as old business or new
business, send me an email. It is easier to run the meeting smoothly
when I am aware of the likely agenda.

Because of a lack of adequate notice, there can be no consideration of
bylaw amendments, but they can be proposed.

Because I haven't been all that active myself, and was drafted into
resuming the president's job on short notice, I don't consider myself
sufficiently aware of what-all has been going on in the community in the
way of projects and activities. I intend to try to visit the IRC
channel a few times to get some inputs for a decent President's Report
to the meeting, and welcome any independent contributions (to my email
address) summarizing briefly what you think are the most important
activities and results achieved during the last year.

Non-members who may be interested in becoming formal members of LLG
should also attend. Please read the bylaws of the LLG in advance of the
meeting, and perhaps a few of the minutes of prior meetings, so that you
have some idea what membership is all about; we typically accept anyone
who evidence sufficient interest and awareness of what they are signing
up for.

Members (and perhaps soon-to-be members) - I am interested in seeing a
couple more people be added to the Board of Directors for the coming
year, since we are operating with the minimum three directors right now.
Again, please read the bylaws. Directorship entails a greater
commitment to activity and an interest in the sorts of organizational
details described in the bylaws.

We have not had formal minutes for the meetings of the last few years,
and Robin as Secretary feels that the archived llg-members mailing list
serves the legal requirement for minutes. But I would like to see some
volunteer prepare a concise summary of last year's meeting from the
archives that resembles earlier meeting minutes, which can be approved
at the meeting and put on the minutes page, so that people can briefly
see what happened. I could use this myself, ASAP, to help me prepare.

Ideally, said person will be willing to do this again shortly after this
year's meeting, and perhaps to use the archives to fill in minutes for
the missing years. (This is the sort of thing that can demonstrate that
you are interested in the stuff that directorship entails). Robin is
wearing enough other hats that it would be real nice if meeting minutes
are not something he has to spend time on.

lojbab
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Timo Paulssen

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Aug 9, 2010, 9:23:41 AM8/9/10
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On 08/08/2010 04:03 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> I am calling for anyone (member or non-member) who would like to see
> some topic discussed at the meeting either as old business or new
> business, send me an email. It is easier to run the meeting smoothly
> when I am aware of the likely agenda.

I've started a page on the wiki to collect such topics. [1]


> [�] [I] welcome any independent contributions (to my email address)


> summarizing briefly what you think are the most important activities
> and results achieved during the last year.

There's a section for such things on the same wiki page. [1]


> We have not had formal minutes for the meetings of the last few
> years, and Robin as Secretary feels that the archived llg-members
> mailing list serves the legal requirement for minutes. But I would
> like to see some volunteer prepare a concise summary of last year's
> meeting from the archives that resembles earlier meeting minutes,
> which can be approved at the meeting and put on the minutes page, so
> that people can briefly see what happened. I could use this myself,
> ASAP, to help me prepare.

Where can that archive be found? Google gives me nothing :(


mu'o mi'e timos

[1] http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+Meeting+Topics+2010

Robin Lee Powell

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Aug 9, 2010, 3:26:41 PM8/9/10
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On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 03:23:41PM +0200, Timo Paulssen wrote:
> > We have not had formal minutes for the meetings of the last few
> > years, and Robin as Secretary feels that the archived
> > llg-members mailing list serves the legal requirement for
> > minutes. But I would like to see some volunteer prepare a
> > concise summary of last year's meeting from the archives that
> > resembles earlier meeting minutes, which can be approved at the
> > meeting and put on the minutes page, so that people can briefly
> > see what happened. I could use this myself, ASAP, to help me
> > prepare.
>
> Where can that archive be found? Google gives me nothing :(

http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/

-Robin

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Ali Sajid Imami

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Aug 10, 2010, 10:20:28 AM8/10/10
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Is the access restricted?
I just made an lsg2 account. Bu it is not accepting it. :(

On Aug 10, 12:26 am, Robin Lee Powell <rlpow...@digitalkingdom.org>
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 03:23:41PM +0200, Timo Paulssen wrote:
> > > We have not had formal minutes for the meetings of the last few
> > > years, and Robin as Secretary feels that the archived
> > > llg-members mailing list serves the legal requirement for
> > > minutes. But I would like to see some volunteer prepare a
> > > concise summary of last year's meeting from the archives that
> > > resembles earlier meeting minutes, which can be approved at the
> > > meeting and put on the minutes page, so that people can briefly
> > > see what happened. I could use this myself, ASAP, to help me
> > > prepare.
>
> > Where can that archive be found? Google gives me nothing :(
>
> http://lojban.org/lists/llg-members/
>
> -Robin
>
> --http://singinst.org/:  Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.

Timo Paulssen

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Aug 10, 2010, 10:40:43 AM8/10/10
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On 08/08/2010 04:03 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> We have not had formal minutes for the meetings of the last few
> years, and Robin as Secretary feels that the archived llg-members
> mailing list serves the legal requirement for minutes. But I would
> like to see some volunteer prepare a concise summary of last year's
> meeting from the archives that resembles earlier meeting minutes,
> which can be approved at the meeting and put on the minutes page, so
> that people can briefly see what happened. I could use this myself,
> ASAP, to help me prepare.

I've tried to do this. The result can be found on the wiki [1]. I hope
this stuff is all right, I have not had enough education in
legalitybabble to properly do this, I've just copypasted the source from
an olde minutes page and put stuff in that I felt was relevant.


> Ideally, said person will be willing to do this again shortly after
> this year's meeting, and perhaps to use the archives to fill in
> minutes for the missing years. (This is the sort of thing that can
> demonstrate that you are interested in the stuff that directorship
> entails). Robin is wearing enough other hats that it would be real
> nice if meeting minutes are not something he has to spend time on.

If the upcoming meeting is similarly uneventful, I should be able to do
that. I am, however, not interested in becomint a director. I am
interested in lojban not exploding due to the general lazyness of big
parts of the community. At least here and there I get little sparks of
motivation and willpower.


> lojbab

mu'o mi'e timos


[1]
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LLG+2009+Annual+Meeting+Minutes

A. PIEKARSKI

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Aug 10, 2010, 11:15:44 AM8/10/10
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>
> If the upcoming meeting is similarly uneventful, I should be able to do
> that. I am, however, not interested in becomint a director. I am
> interested in lojban not exploding due to the general lazyness of big
> parts of the community. At least here and there I get little sparks of
> motivation and willpower.
>

Don't be so critical, timos.  Not long ago you said you would come up
with a better video to replace the one on the wiki home page (which you
didn't), and you didn't even reply to my request to translate the
menu on the German-language wiki home page.  So how about one
of those little sparks! :)

totus

Alan Post

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Aug 10, 2010, 10:46:59 AM8/10/10
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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:40:43PM +0200, Timo Paulssen wrote:
> On 08/08/2010 04:03 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> > We have not had formal minutes for the meetings of the last few
> > years, and Robin as Secretary feels that the archived llg-members
> > mailing list serves the legal requirement for minutes. But I would
> > like to see some volunteer prepare a concise summary of last year's
> > meeting from the archives that resembles earlier meeting minutes,
> > which can be approved at the meeting and put on the minutes page, so
> > that people can briefly see what happened. I could use this myself,
> > ASAP, to help me prepare.
>
> I've tried to do this. The result can be found on the wiki [1]. I hope
> this stuff is all right, I have not had enough education in
> legalitybabble to properly do this, I've just copypasted the source from
> an olde minutes page and put stuff in that I felt was relevant.
>

Wow, thank you so much.

-Alan
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ko djuno fi le do sevzi

Timo Paulssen

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Aug 10, 2010, 2:15:39 PM8/10/10
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Not too long ago, I wrote:
> I am interested in lojban not exploding due to the general lazyness
> of big parts of the community. At least here and there I get little
> sparks of motivation and willpower.

Whoops, that totally came out differently from what I was aiming at!
The two sentences were not at all meant to be related. What I was trying
to say:

I don't want lojban to explode. People are lazy. I am, too.

Sometimes i get bursts of motivation, such as right now.


And about the translation�
Well, big parts of the site user interface are already translated and,
much to my dismay, are pretty horrifying. The translations sound totally
forced and it's not always very straightforward, what is meant. I
suppose everyone who'd visit the site would immediately be horrified and
leave. Translating, to me, feels like wasted effort, since in my
experience many germans (in our target audience) can read english just fine.

And the video, well�
I'm having hard times coming up with topics, then with something to say
and then actually doing it. It feels weird, sitting in my apartment,
talking lojban by myself, as the door to the stairway lets a lot of
vibrations through, so, yeah� All bad excuses, I guess ;)

Robin Lee Powell

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Sep 1, 2010, 7:41:31 PM9/1/10
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Yes, it is. We sometimes discuss financial matters in there.

-Robin

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Robin Lee Powell

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Sep 1, 2010, 8:31:33 PM9/1/10
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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:40:43PM +0200, Timo Paulssen wrote:
> On 08/08/2010 04:03 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> > We have not had formal minutes for the meetings of the last few
> > years, and Robin as Secretary feels that the archived llg-members
> > mailing list serves the legal requirement for minutes. But I would
> > like to see some volunteer prepare a concise summary of last year's
> > meeting from the archives that resembles earlier meeting minutes,
> > which can be approved at the meeting and put on the minutes page, so
> > that people can briefly see what happened. I could use this myself,
> > ASAP, to help me prepare.
>
> I've tried to do this. The result can be found on the wiki [1]. I hope
> this stuff is all right, I have not had enough education in
> legalitybabble to properly do this, I've just copypasted the source from
> an olde minutes page and put stuff in that I felt was relevant.
>
[snip]
> [1]
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LLG+2009+Annual+Meeting+Minutes

Assuming this is complete, which I have not personally verified,
it's great. Perfectly good enough in the legalitybabble department.
Thank you so much!

-Robin

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