Baby Words: Effort.

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Robin Lee Powell

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May 4, 2012, 2:52:20 PM5/4/12
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I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting
out a real effort at something. That's A Big Deal, because the
latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate
ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy
adults.

I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
pretty unsatisfying. Ideas?

-Robin

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lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u

Jonathan Jones

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May 4, 2012, 3:00:48 PM5/4/12
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On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting
out a real effort at something.  That's A Big Deal, because the
latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate
ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy
adults.

I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
pretty unsatisfying.  Ideas?

-Robin

Not really, but why .io, not ,ui?
 
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lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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Robin Lee Powell

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May 4, 2012, 3:15:56 PM5/4/12
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On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 01:00:48PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting
> > out a real effort at something. That's A Big Deal, because the
> > latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate
> > ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy
> > adults.
> >
> > I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
> > pretty unsatisfying. Ideas?
> >
> > -Robin
> >
>
> Not really, but why .io, not ,ui?

I do both; depends on my mood.

In particular, when F is trying to crawl, and failing, and getting
oh so frustrated, {.ui} does not seem appropriate.

-Robin

Theodore Reed

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May 4, 2012, 4:10:56 PM5/4/12
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gunka?

Arnt Richard Johansen

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May 4, 2012, 4:54:07 PM5/4/12
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On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:52:20AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
> I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting
> out a real effort at something. That's A Big Deal, because the
> latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate
> ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy
> adults.
>
> I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
> pretty unsatisfying. Ideas?

For effort as exertion (what I think you want):
camtoi
c1 effortfully tries to do t2 by method t3, as perceived by c3.

tolsurla
s1 expends effort/is actively/effortfully involved in doing/being s2 (activity)

For effort as attempt:
zukte
x1 is a volitional entity employing means/taking action x2 for purpose/goal x3/to end x3.

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Jorge Llambías

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May 4, 2012, 7:08:50 PM5/4/12
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On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>
> I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting
> out a real effort at something.  That's A Big Deal, because the
> latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate
> ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy
> adults.
>
> I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
> pretty unsatisfying.  Ideas?

".a'i dai .i'e"

mu'o mi'e xorxes

la .lindar.

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May 4, 2012, 11:52:15 PM5/4/12
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lo'u pu'u gunka li'u co'e .i mi le pu se stidi ku nelci

Jonathan Jones

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May 5, 2012, 1:23:08 AM5/5/12
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li'u sa le'u

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:52 PM, la .lindar. <lindar...@gmail.com> wrote:
lo'u pu'u gunka li'u co'e .i mi le pu se stidi ku nelci
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Robin Lee Powell

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May 27, 2012, 1:54:49 AM5/27/12
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I was thinking bridi; I find the current (incredibly fuzzy)
semantics of {dai} unsatisfying. Nailing that shit down is on the
list.

Robin Lee Powell

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May 27, 2012, 1:58:34 AM5/27/12
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On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 10:54:07PM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
> On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:52:20AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >
> > I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting
> > out a real effort at something. That's A Big Deal, because the
> > latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate
> > ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy
> > adults.
> >
> > I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's
> > pretty unsatisfying. Ideas?
>
> For effort as exertion (what I think you want):
> camtoi
> c1 effortfully tries to do t2 by method t3, as perceived by c3.
>
> tolsurla
> s1 expends effort/is actively/effortfully involved in doing/being s2 (activity)

Lovely! Thank you.
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