[lojban] Reverse of ne'i?

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Robin Lee Powell

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Oct 25, 2002, 8:34:03 PM10/25/02
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There seems to be no tense for 'outside'.

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Jordan DeLong

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Oct 27, 2002, 1:03:12 AM10/27/02
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:40:24AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote:
> la camgusmis cusku di'e

> >There seems to be no tense for 'outside'.
>
> Probably {ne'inai}.

{ne'inai} is contrary negation. It simply says "it is false that
it is within", just like a na. This goes for PU and FAhA alike,
and there's an example specifically regarding this (ne'inai) in the
book (chap 10, ex 18.3).

This may or may not be sufficent for the use camgusmis was looking
for...

> But you can always use {fi'o se bartu}.
> {ne'i} is {fi'o se nenri}.

Note that NAhE are fine even on floating tenses, so you can also
use {to'e ne'i} to mean outside. (There's also an example of this
in the book; 18.6 same chap)

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Robin Lee Powell

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Oct 27, 2002, 2:41:09 PM10/27/02
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Cool. Thanks.

-Robin

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Jorge Llambias

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Oct 25, 2002, 8:40:24 PM10/25/02
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la camgusmis cusku di'e

>There seems to be no tense for 'outside'.

Probably {ne'inai}.

But you can always use {fi'o se bartu}.


{ne'i} is {fi'o se nenri}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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