Would you like to be lojban@lojban.org ?

[Robin Lee Powell]

These days, it seems that no-one but me *ever* responds to this
address, and I am very slow and miss things.

Help?

-Robin

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[v4hn]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 01:30:10PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
> These days, it seems that no-one but me *ever* responds to this
> address, and I am very slow and miss things.
>
> Help?

Why not just forward these mails to the list?


v4hn

[Robin Lee Powell]

Hmm. Some of the things that come to that address are business
related, such as book orders; those *definitely* can't go to the
list.

I could *probably* find all such sources, though, although it would
mean work.

-Robin

[Jonathan Jones]

Well, I know the BPFK has it's own list, does the LLG? I think it would make most sense to either send them all to the LLG, or split them between the too aforementioned.

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[Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG]

Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> These days, it seems that no-one but me *ever* responds to this
> address, and I am very slow and miss things.

I keep up with stuff on loj...@lojban.org, usually responding to general
questions (and eventually filling orders). I probably should be better
about ccing you when I respond, so that you know it has been handled.
If you want me to take primary responsibility, I can, and you can add
Nora if you want, since she reads mail at different times than I do, and
tends to keep up better. Since we've discussed her possibly taking over
the Secretary job for a year, we'd need to do that anyway.

lojbab
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Bob LeChevalier loj...@lojban.org www.lojban.org
President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.

[Robin Lee Powell]

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 05:55:29PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote:
> Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >These days, it seems that no-one but me *ever* responds to this
> >address, and I am very slow and miss things.
>
> I keep up with stuff on loj...@lojban.org, usually responding to
> general questions (and eventually filling orders). I probably
> should be better about ccing you when I respond, so that you know it
> has been handled.

As I haven't seen you respond to anything there in many months, yes,
that would be nice. Or just reply to all, so everybody on it gets a
copy.

> If you want me to take primary responsibility, I can,

It might be nice of someone more tapped into the community (IRC,
facebook, etc) did so, but no-one seems to be volunteering, as
usual, so yes please.

> and you can add Nora if you want, since she reads mail at
> different times than I do, and tends to keep up better. Since
> we've discussed her possibly taking over the Secretary job for a
> year, we'd need to do that anyway.

Done.

-Robin

[Robin Lee Powell]

As long as everybody thinks someone else might do it, no-one will
act, at least in this community. I was looking for someone to
actually take some responsibility for this function, on a personal
level.

"Many hands make light work" has been *staggeringly* unsuccessful
around here.

-Robin

[la gleki]

There used to be an LLG gmail address. You could connect them because they seem to be used for similar purposes

i ku'i po'o mi stidi da ije mi na se slabu sai re lo bi'unai judri 

-Robin

[Jonathan Jones]

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

As long as everybody thinks someone else might do it, no-one will
act, at least in this community.

This phenomenon has been shown to be universal, actually. The more people there are who /could/ do something, no matter what it is, the less likely anyone /will/.

I don't remember any of the actual studies off the top of my head- it's been awhile since my psychology class- but I do remember that if you're getting beat up in an alley, it's much more likely that someone will come to your aid if three people see it happening than if 30 do.

This is why, in real life, you should never shout "Somebody call 911!" to a crowd of people, because everyone will assume someone else is doing it and so no one does. It's a much better idea to either do it yourself, or failing that, single some one out and shout "You there in the red shirt, call 911!" (Or some other uniquely descriptive identifier.)

In any case, this is not the reason for my not coming forward. My reason is simply that I'm not deeply enough involved to want to.

[selpa'i]

la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e

> These days, it seems that no-one but me *ever* responds to this
> address, and I am very slow and miss things.
>
> Help?

Could you tell us what this address is for, what kinds of emails it
receives? What are the duties of whoever takes it over?

I could manage reading all the mails (I don't expect them to be many),
but I'm not so sure how to handle business-related things. A clearer
"job-description" would be useful, unless it's too late now.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

[Robin Lee Powell]

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:24:58PM +0200, selpa'i wrote:
> la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e
> >These days, it seems that no-one but me *ever* responds to this
> >address, and I am very slow and miss things.
> >
> >Help?
>
> Could you tell us what this address is for,

It's the general LLG/Lojban contact address.

> what kinds of emails it receives?

Mostly "How do I say X?" and "Where do I find audio/video/books?".
Generally one or two a week; my problem is that I'm often weeks
behind on email these days.

> What are the duties of whoever takes it over?

Answering those ^^

> I could manage reading all the mails (I don't expect them to be
> many), but I'm not so sure how to handle business-related things.

You'd pass those on to the board.

> A clearer "job-description" would be useful,

Sorry, that was dumb. :)

-Robin

[Robin Lee Powell]

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 03:59:05AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Robin Lee Powell <
> rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>
> > As long as everybody thinks someone else might do it, no-one
> > will act, at least in this community.
>
>
> This phenomenon has been shown to be universal, actually. The more
> people there are who /could/ do something, no matter what it is,
> the less likely anyone /will/.

Yep; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

> I don't remember any of the actual studies off the top of my head-
> it's been awhile since my psychology class- but I do remember that
> if you're getting beat up in an alley, it's much more likely that
> someone will come to your aid if three people see it happening
> than if 30 do.
>
> This is why, in real life, you should never shout "Somebody call
> 911!" to a crowd of people, because everyone will assume someone
> else is doing it and so no one does. It's a much better idea to
> either do it yourself, or failing that, single some one out and
> shout "You there in the red shirt, call 911!" (Or some other
> uniquely descriptive identifier.)

*Indeed*. This is a very important thing to know; it can save your
life.

-Robin

[selpa'i]

la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:24:58PM +0200, selpa'i wrote:
>> la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e
>>> These days, it seems that no-one but me *ever* responds to this
>>> address, and I am very slow and miss things.
>>>
>>> Help?
>>
>> Could you tell us what this address is for,
>
> It's the general LLG/Lojban contact address.
>
>> what kinds of emails it receives?
>
> Mostly "How do I say X?" and "Where do I find audio/video/books?".
> Generally one or two a week; my problem is that I'm often weeks
> behind on email these days.

Ah, that sounds manageable.

>> What are the duties of whoever takes it over?
>
> Answering those ^^

I'd be up for it.

>> I could manage reading all the mails (I don't expect them to be
>> many), but I'm not so sure how to handle business-related things.
>
> You'd pass those on to the board.

Okay, if you tell me who the Board is, then I will gladly pass them on
to it. :)

[Jonathan Jones]

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 03:59:05AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:

><snip>"You there in the red shirt, call 911!"

Hmm. Now that I think on it, maybe we shouldn't out the one in the red shirt- unless the person also happens to be a jovial Scotsman that refers to engines as "she". Anyone who's seen Star Trek knows what happens to /them/.

[Álvaro Vallejo]

Hi,

I offer my humble help for this, although I may not be the right one. Although I am proactive and am usually connected to the internet most of the day while I'm not traveling (which happens for some 1/4 of my time), my Lojban knowledge is moderate.

If you find my help useful, just give me specific instructions and I will do it.

mu'o mi'e la .albaros.

[Robin Lee Powell]

What's really important here is a good grasp of what community
resources are avaliable. I gather you're pretty new?, so I'm going
to go with some other people for now, but I very much appreciate the
offer and I'll keep you in mind.

-Robin

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[Robin Lee Powell]

-____-

I meant that to be private, that was very rude, I'm sorry.

-Robin

[Álvaro Vallejo]

u'i

Don't worry,

I came here to stay, and I understand your point of view. There will be for sure more opportunities for collaboration in the future.

mu'o mi'e la albaros