APE: Salutations! (Greetings and partings)

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Jonathan Jones

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Jan 13, 2013, 12:56:54 PM1/13/13
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So, I'm sure everyone knows about {coi} and {co'o}. That said, there are many ways to greet (and part from) someone besides "Hello" and "Goodbye".

So, this week's APE is all about making up those other, more specific sayings.

To start with, here's something a store employee might say as greeting to a customer:

{.ixu mi djuka'e.au lonu facki fi lo se po'edji}

"May I help you find something?"

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

Jacob Errington

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Jan 13, 2013, 3:57:03 PM1/13/13
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Before someone goes to sleep:
.i lo pluka do li'i .a'o senva lo melbi
"Have a good one, dreaming -- I hope -- of beautiful things."

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
"This is tsani, over."
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manti

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Jan 13, 2013, 3:58:31 PM1/13/13
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lo'e nu tavla cu ba tolseldicra

Until we speak again.

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lo nu do tolyli'a cu lerci .o'onai
[I feel like this could/should be shortened somehow...]

You're late!

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ri'ecai ko cliva

Leave!
[Presumably said when someone tries to talk to one who's mad/sad/etc.]

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ta'a do ga'inaicai

Excuse me, my lord/your highness/etc.

ianek

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Jan 13, 2013, 4:02:56 PM1/13/13
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On 13 Sty, 21:58, manti <wakkawalr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> lo'e nu tavla cu ba tolseldicra
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> Until we speak again.
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> lo nu do tolyli'a cu lerci .o'onai
> [I feel like this could/should be shortened somehow...]

Maybe: {do jai lerci o'onai}? Making implicit raising in English
explicit.

mu'o mi'e ianek

Pierre Abbat

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Jan 13, 2013, 9:00:15 PM1/13/13
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On Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:58:31 manti wrote:
> lo nu do tolyli'a cu lerci .o'onai
> [I feel like this could/should be shortened somehow...]
>
> You're late!

"tolyli'a" can be shortened by one syllable (but no letters) to "tolcliva",
and you can say "do lerci tolcliva" or "tu'a do lerci".

Pierre
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li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

v4hn

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Jan 14, 2013, 8:14:50 AM1/14/13
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:58:31PM -0800, manti wrote:
> lo'e nu tavla cu ba tolseldicra
>
> Until we speak again.

Maybe {ba krefu lonu tavla} is semantically close?
At least it's more easy. {.ui}
It {ba'e} should mean "[We] will talk again."
If it doesn't, I'd throw in an additional {da}:
{da ba krefu lonu tavla}

A parting for hunters or fishers:

{.i ko banzu kavbu}
"Catch enough!"

As for anyone using a gun on a regular basis(hunters, soldiers, ...):

{.i ko sirji danre'o} or maybe just {.i ko sirji renro}
"shoot straight."


mi'e la .van. mu'o

la gleki

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Jan 14, 2013, 9:55:56 AM1/14/13
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On Sunday, January 13, 2013 9:56:54 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
So, I'm sure everyone knows about {coi} and {co'o}. That said, there are many ways to greet (and part from) someone besides "Hello" and "Goodbye".

sorry for being a bit boring but what about the most obvious words like.

{rinsa ro do} (Greetings to everyone)
{za'ure'u rinsa} (Hello again).

Another topic that can be developed is {doi ninmu .iu ma stuzi lo lamji traji ke jemna zarci} and similar 

Ross Ogilvie

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Jan 14, 2013, 7:36:49 PM1/14/13
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Van's ones reminded me of the parting used by pilots in BSG: "good hunting" = { ko nunkalte snada }

mi'e ros mu'o


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Ian Johnson

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Jan 14, 2013, 9:41:41 PM1/14/13
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Things like that sound like {.a'o} more than {ko}. Nice, though.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

ianek

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Jan 15, 2013, 7:03:31 AM1/15/13
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On 15 Sty, 03:41, Ian Johnson <blindbrav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Things like that sound like {.a'o} more than {ko}. Nice, though.

Or even {di'ai}. I like {di'ai}.

mu'o mi'e ianek

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> mi'e la latro'a mu'o
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> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Ross Ogilvie <r...@rossogilvie.id.au>wrote:
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> > Van's ones reminded me of the parting used by pilots in BSG: "good
> > hunting" = { ko nunkalte snada }
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> > mi'e ros mu'o
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Pierre Abbat

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Jan 17, 2013, 9:50:21 PM1/17/13
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Here's one I said to clsn at one of the jbonunsla:
"lo panpi ko li'i surdei"
Should have been "lo ka panpi", and I know three ways to say it in four
languages: "shabbat shalom", "gut shabbes", "feliz sábado", "happy Sabbath".
What's the best way to say it in Lojban?

Pierre

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gau do li'i co'e kei do

Miles Forster

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Jan 18, 2013, 9:06:13 AM1/18/13
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la .pier. cu cusku di'e
> Here's one I said to clsn at one of the jbonunsla:
> "lo panpi ko li'i surdei"
> Should have been "lo ka panpi", and I know three ways to say it in four
> languages: "shabbat shalom", "gut shabbes", "feliz s�bado", "happy Sabbath".
> What's the best way to say it in Lojban?

I don't think there is such a thing as the best way, but since the other
four languages have shorter ways to say it, maybe a similarly short
Lojban version is desirable. How about:

ko surdei zanfri
Good Sabbath!

In many cases I prefer {.a'o} over {ko}, but I admit that {ko} tends to
feel more energetic.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i


Michael Turniansky

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Feb 7, 2013, 12:14:38 PM2/7/13
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  I usually use "ko zanfri lo surdei" myself.

  --gejyspa

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Miles Forster <m...@plasmatix.com> wrote:
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Here's one I said to clsn at one of the jbonunsla:
"lo panpi ko li'i surdei"
Should have been "lo ka panpi", and I know three ways to say it in four
languages: "shabbat shalom", "gut shabbes", "feliz sábado", "happy Sabbath".

What's the best way to say it in Lojban?
I don't think there is such a thing as the best way, but since the other four languages have shorter ways to say it, maybe a similarly short Lojban version is desirable. How about:

ko surdei zanfri
Good Sabbath!

In many cases I prefer {.a'o} over {ko}, but I admit that {ko} tends to feel more energetic.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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