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Lee Carlson

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May 7, 2013, 10:10:55 PM5/7/13
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For the longest time I have said: "Nothing is Constant except Change." I wanted to translate my intent to lojban and wound up with:"Everything Always Changes." Would an appropriate translation be: .i roda roroi binxo zo'e.

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MorphemeAddict

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May 7, 2013, 11:25:04 PM5/7/13
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I see two issues, neither necessarily wrong. 

First, it doesn't need to start with {.i} since it's not a continuation of a previous utterance. 
Second, I think {zo'e} is redundant. If a third argument were used after {binxo}, {zo'e} would serve the function of filling the second argument and thereby marking the next as the third, but here it just fills the second argument with an explicit "doesn't matter/don't know", which is what a blank already means. 

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Lee Carlson

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May 8, 2013, 12:24:08 AM5/8/13
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fi'i je'e (I hope that I'm correctly expressing thankful understanding). So "roda roroi binxo" will suffice?

Pierre Abbat

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May 8, 2013, 12:49:59 AM5/8/13
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On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 23:24:08 Lee Carlson wrote:
> fi'i je'e (I hope that I'm correctly expressing thankful understanding). So
> "roda roroi binxo" will suffice?

Do you mean "binxo" or "cenba"? Translating "change" into Lojban is often
tricky.

I would say "lo nu cenba po'o cu stodi" or "no na'ebo lo nu cenba cu stodi".

Btw, "fi'i" is "welcome" in the sense of "Welcome to my humble abode". "Thank
you" is "ki'e do", which is answered with "je'e".

Pierre
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Ian Johnson

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May 8, 2013, 1:13:26 AM5/8/13
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On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote:
Btw, "fi'i" is "welcome" in the sense of "Welcome to my humble abode". "Thank
you" is "ki'e do", which is answered with "je'e".

Pierre
This is an old topic, and I figure I should insert my thoughts on it. To me {fi'i} is not acknowledgment of thanks by itself, but can be an expression of hospitality, which becomes "you are welcome to receive more help" in contexts like this one. Consequently a common response from me to a student saying {ki'e} is {je'e fi'i ui}, if I actually want to say that they should feel free to ask for more help (which of course I do).

mi'e la latro'a

Lee Carlson

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May 8, 2013, 7:24:24 AM5/8/13
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ki'e rodo


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Adam Lopresto

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May 9, 2013, 5:41:06 PM5/9/13
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My first go is {stodi no na ka cenba}. A little hard to back translate: "The only standard by which (something unspecified) is constant is that [it] changes".


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