Tempo changes

[David Eagle]

Hi, I”am trying to insert a tempo change. I press option shift T to take me into the tempo list. I stop interacting with the presented table and go to create new tempo. It’s automatically set to my position when I re-interact with the table. But when I go to the tempo slider and try to change the tempo, every single time I move the slider, it kicks me out, and I have to go back into the slider to make a further change. So I can change the tempo, but it can take quite a while longer than I’d hope. Is anyone else getting this, or has a work-around or a different way of changing tempos? Time signature changes seem really easy. I just press F10 twice in Logic Magician and change my value, and it asks me if I want to change the time signature for the whole project or at my position. So that works an absolute treat. But tempo seems to be more problematic. Any thoughts?

 Thanks.

[Ramy Moustafa Saber]

Same here.

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On 21 Apr 2026, at 2:26 PM, 'David Eagle' via Logic Accessibility <logic-acc...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi, I”am trying to insert a tempo change. I press option shift T to take me into the tempo list. I stop interacting with the presented table and go to create new tempo. It’s automatically set to my position when I re-interact with the table. But when I go to the tempo slider and try to change the tempo, every single time I move the slider, it kicks me out, and I have to go back into the slider to make a further change. So I can change the tempo, but it can take quite a while longer than I’d hope. Is anyone else getting this, or has a work-around or a different way of changing tempos? Time signature changes seem really easy. I just press F10 twice in Logic Magician and change my value, and it asks me if I want to change the time signature for the whole project or at my position. So that works an absolute treat. But tempo seems to be more problematic. Any thoughts?

 Thanks.

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[Dave Leo Baker]

What happens when you interact with the slider, move mouse to VO Cursor (VO Command F5), then VO Command Shift Space, then move the slider, then VO Command shift space again when you’re done before you stop interacting.

This works on a lot of sliders in Logic where it kicks you out. Otherwise instead of the VO Command Shift Space you could VO Shift Space and type a new tempo value and push enter. I’ll have to experiment with this.

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[Daniel Contreras]

Hello, 

This worked for me. I’m not an LM user though so just a heads up. 

After creating the new tempo event: 

Navigate to the tempo scrubber group of the new event and do not interact with it. 

Perform a mouse click 

Use hyphen and equals keys to adjust by one increment 

implement shift key to adjust by 10. 

Voice Over is smoothly announcing the new tempo as you change it. 

You can also adjust other tempo events in this way. 

Hope this helps  

On Apr 21, 2026, at 7:26 AM, 'David Eagle' via Logic Accessibility <logic-acc...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi, I”am trying to insert a tempo change. I press option shift T to take me into the tempo list. I stop interacting with the presented table and go to create new tempo. It’s automatically set to my position when I re-interact with the table. But when I go to the tempo slider and try to change the tempo, every single time I move the slider, it kicks me out, and I have to go back into the slider to make a further change. So I can change the tempo, but it can take quite a while longer than I’d hope. Is anyone else getting this, or has a work-around or a different way of changing tempos? Time signature changes seem really easy. I just press F10 twice in Logic Magician and change my value, and it asks me if I want to change the time signature for the whole project or at my position. So that works an absolute treat. But tempo seems to be more problematic. Any thoughts?

 Thanks.

[Dave Leo Baker]

Oh man! That hyphen and equals thing I’ve never tried I’ll have to in other sliders. Also I’ve been using the mouse click / lock techniques since long before LM, since I heard of it by Andre Louis in 2018 actually. Thanks for this, 

Dave

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[David Eagle]

Aha! Both of those solutions work. Thanks very much. To do the change with dash and shift dash and equals and shift equals, you have to turn off Logic Magician. Thanks for those work-arounds. I'm not massively proficient with the more advanced VoiceOver techniques like simulating mouse down etc, so actually that little problem has helped me learn something. Thanks.

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[TheOreoMonster]

Logic Magician does cover the tempo, Marker and Signature  list as well. All covered in the appropriate chapter in the documentation. Just another option.

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[TheOreoMonster]

Hey Daniel,

I know for someone like you who has been using Logic for along time it will be like an old dog trying to learn new tricks but I genuinely believe Logic Magician can increase your workflow. If you got time give it  a shot and reach out if you got any questions.

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[Daniel Contreras]

Yo Steve, 

Yeah it seems very cool from what I am hearing. I just need to make some time to get it installed and to get to know how it works. Sibelius has been the money maker as of late haha perhaps I can get it going over the summer. Thanks Steve I’ll keep in mind. 

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[David Eagle]

Oo, I’ll reread the documentation as I missed the bit about inserting a tempo change. The dash and shift dash key is also a neat shortcut, although sadly I don’t think it works with plugin sliders, unless I’m doing something wrong? It would be great to be focused on a plugin parameter and be able to change it with dash and equals, and shift dash and equals. Another weird thing is when you have automation showing on a track, by pressing A, you can see the visible parameter in the track header, and you can change it. There’s also a value element next to it, and if it happens to be a toggle like on and off, you can just turn it on and off without having to go into the actual plugin. However if it’s a slider, you don’t seem to be able to change it from that window, even though there is a value slider next to it. That slider changes value, but doesn’t seem to actually do anything in reality. So it feels like we’re so close to a really accessible and speedy automation workflow, but there’s just something not quite right with how that works. What is that value slider for, as it doesn’t update when it actually changes, and changing it doesn’t do anything? 

Thanks.

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[Laid Civic]

You’re right. All controls except sliders can be modified from tracks header. For sighted guys it does work, even you can use it if you lock the mouse on that automation value button and move up and down, but you can’t see actual value anywhere. I already wrote apple about that, plan to do it again, and I certainly appeal on you and others to do it as well, as that would be amazing speed up with automations.

 

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[David Eagle]

Oh OK, I’ll give that a go. Not that I want to give Mr Monster more work, as he’s certainly doing plenty, but I wonder if there is any way that we could script something so that there are shortcuts to change the state of the visible automation parameter, and hear the value as we do so? That would be an incredible development. I’m already finding automation pretty nice, now that I’m getting the hang of the visible parameter system, and using command control 5 and 6. But being able to change the slider and hear its value without having to keep going into the plugin would certainly speed things up.

As for contacting Logic support, I’ll happily do that. I don’t know how open they are to discussion, having only just got a Mac and never contacted support, but hopefully a few nudges from us from time to time might be helpful. I wonder if we have any rough stats of how many blind people might be using Logic? 

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[TheOreoMonster]

For clarification, Laid aka Lucky does the scripting, I help test, brainstorm ideas and do the documentation, so thats a question for Laid to answer. 

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