Making the plunge

[Dewald van Deventer]

Hi guys. 

Dewald here. 

I have been trying out Logic now for 90 days. 

My trial will be up in 2 days. 

I see it's quite a bit expensive on the appstore. 

But I am expecting some clients to pay mee soon. 

I just want to know if I should make the plunge. 

I was making a backtrack for a client today in Logic. Recording isn't my main business. Piano tuning and repair is. 

But today, I was struggling using Logic Magician and Voiceover. 

I struggled to adjust the tempo in the new project window, and I found that Logic Magician would just disable all of a sudden. 

I try to keep my focus on the control bar, but sometimes I find myself in the tracks group or the mixer. 

And then I try to arrow up and down my tracks, with LM on, and it doesn't announce the tracks. When I press T, it says that the focus has changed, but ...

I'm just wondering if it's worth all the money. I would like to buy it, but maybe I need some help. 

I also see that once the trial is expired and buy the program, I'll have to delete the app, and install it after the purchase. 

How will that affect the sound library? And will I have to uninstall Lm? 

Thanks

Dewald

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[TheOreoMonster]

Hey Dewald,

Let’s first tackle the price. You can subscribe to the Apple creator Studio and get Logic for roughly $13 US a month. You can pre pay for a year and get it to be a bit cheaper. However if you have some money coming in, you can subscribe monthly when your trial ends and then pay for it when the money comes in and end the monthly subscription then. The subscription should have a 30 day trial (and a 90 day trial if you bought a new Mac or iPad recently that qualifies) so  if you get paid in the next 30 days after starting the trial you should be able to get an extra 30 days to 90 days trial.

Regarding Logic and Logic Magician, part of what makes it great is you shouldn’t have to worry too much where your focus is, so long as it’s in the main  window  somewhere. If you only have the control bar, inspector, tracks area, and or library open you should be fine.  

I think part of the problem is you have the mixer visible. Logic Magician Functionality is such that you really don’t need to go into the mixer and the rare times you do its functionally better to open the mixer in its own window with Command 2, perform the task you opened the mixer for and then close it with Command W. The problem is when you open something as a tab or section in the main window, like the mixer with the letter x, E for an editor like the session player editor or p for the piano roll, the focus shifts to that and thats why things like up and down arrow and or at times left/right arrows won’t work. Turn off Logic Magician and close the mixer with x. If you have the control bar, inspector and tracks area visible, things should work find without you having to have your keyboard focus in any particular place. You can  press F1 for the tempo, Change it with option dash and option equals, and add shift to move in smaller increments. You can also after pressing F1 for the tempo press Option W to type in a tempo value.

Option Dash and equal or Option Shift dash or Equals should always change the tempo, If you want to type in a tempo however, you will want to press F1 which simply announces  the tempo then press Option W to type in a tempo and then press return.

As I said, Logic Magician has a lot of the functionality you would need to go into the mixer for  built in with key commands, from adjusting the  volume and pan, to adding effects and sends and even adding plug ins to the sends or aux tracks, all without having to go into the mixer. So there is no need to have the mixer open in the main window. Likewise things like the piano roll can be opened in its own window with Command 4 and that is the preferred and faster workflow than using p to open the piano roll in a section or tab in the main window. Things like the session player editor or the Loop browser that doesn’t have the option to be opened in their own window and can only be shown or hidden as a tab or section in the main window, in those cases you can use tab to switch the keyboard focus between the tracks  area and the Session player editor or Loop Browser.

So case in point, when you are focused in the loop browser for example the Loop Browser key commands in Logic Magician are active, when you tab  back to have keyboard focus back in the tracks group then the usual Logic Magician key commands should work  again.  

The key command T should usually announce the selected track even in a lot of cases when the keyboard focus is not in the main window or tracks area. Case in point when a plug in window is open or your focus is in the session player editor etc. So pressing the letter t shouldn’t announce that something is not in focus. Could you perhaps provide an example of a scenario of when this happens?

Regarding assistance, there are a few options, Of course booking a one on one training session with me is one of them. However, alternatively in addition to asking questions here you can also join the LogicBand discord, and participate in the chats there. There are also voice channels on the server where myself and others hang out from time to time and chat about using Logic, workflow ideas, and answer questions.

Regarding re-installing the app, any user patches, channel strip settings or plug in settings you created should remain across a delete and re-installation as deleting the app shouldn’t delete those.

Hope this helps, Let me know if you have any other questions.

-T.O.M
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[MERT ÖZER]

I also have a question. Is it a problem if the mixer area is visible in the inspector window, not the one we toggle with x, the other one that’s shown when we interact with the inspector area, that’s called mixer layout area? If so, how can I hide it?

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[Dave Leo Baker]

I would keep the Inspector up all the time, it’s toggleable with letter i. But 

LM uses the Inspector also, and IMHO it’s good to learn and understand the parts by looking at the inspector and what’s changing. 

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[Dewald van Deventer]

Hi. Thank you so so much for your help in explaining everything. 

Because I only started learning Logic Magician half-way through learning the normal key commands for Logic, I sometimes wonder how much you rely on LM. 

I haven't played around much with adding plugins, and don't have a clue how to do it without going into the mixer with LM, but I'm eager to find out. 

I was only pressing T to find out the track I was focussed on since pressing down arrow didn't announce anything. 

Ok, so maybe I was too picky on that I should be focussed on the control bar. 

Cool. Yes I try not to have any other windows open. 

I only like to go into the mixer especially to find out how loud the signal is. 

Can I check that with LM too without going into the Mixer? 

Thanks for explaining about my pricing options. 

I will check out Discord. 

Dewald

Dewald van Deventer

Happy Pianos Tuning and Servicing

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On 24 Mar 2026, at 20:03, TheOreoMonster <theoreo...@logic.band> wrote:

Hey Dewald,

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[Dave Leo Baker]

Don’t be discouraged about learning Logic Magician.

I’ve been producing (again) after a couple of decades, starting late 2018. I’ve been seriously working in the wellness industry since 2020. I only discovered Logic Magician in late 2025, and after a month or so I was comfortable using LM or the old workflows I’ve done for years. Especially having a lot of templates and a catalog of older tracks you kind of get used to bouncing back and forth. Like anything, you will end up memorizing the LM stuff that makes the most sense with your workflows. I’d guess only those who teach or develop it know all of it. Mixing and automating is insanely easy with it, I must say. Plug-in auditions, where you temporarily bypass and activate, is another. If you’re not used to doing things the old way, you’ll be faster at learning how to insert stuff into your channel strips. 

HTH,

Dave

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[TheOreoMonster]

The mixer area in the inspector is part of the inspector and should remain there. It’s how Logic Magician does everything it does with the mixer without you having to open the mixer with X or Command 2. 

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[TheOreoMonster]

Z announces the peak level , Shift z turns on peak watcher which as it says watches the peak level and announces when it changes. Press z or shift z to disable peak watcher. The documentation goes in depth on other options regarding the peak meter and watcher as well. 

Logic Magician was designed to not have to be turned off. Unfortunately, there are rare situations where you will still need to manually turn it off, as there are some limitations with Keyboard Maestro and etc There are also some scenarios where you will need to manually turn it back on as well, Case in point if you press Shift Y to land in the search field in the library, Logic Magician will be turned off. When you press Y to hide the library and put your focus back into the track area Logic Magician will  still be off and you will need to toggle it back on..

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[Laid Civic]

Hey Dewald

LM uses keyboard ninja keymap for the most part, so many of the command you learn from keyboard ninja still apply. Some LM stuff is exclusive, but not much really.

Also, learn stuff as you need them, and they’ll stick. Don’t bother with parts you don’t need in your daily work. 

Check out Steve’s YouTube tutorials for LM and there you’ll learn all about effects, sends and other stuff, which you can do all from tracks list, no need to go in mixer. He already recorded bunch of tutorials with lm, covering most of it, so you can learn it in your own tempo. 

Of course, you can always ask questions about some specific stuff, here or on discord, but Steve’s tutorials cover lots of use cases, so you’ll be well covered with those for sure, especially as you’re still relatively new  logic user.

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