Problem extending a region

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David Eagle

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Apr 21, 2026, 7:28:25 PMApr 21
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Well I was rather pleased with myself as I managed to assemble a very nice take from a few vocal takes. I split a region at the point where I wanted to make a change and used command shift up and down to select my takes. And continued doing that until the end of the project. But now I run into a problem. There is one bit where I want to extend my region start, as there is a breath that’s truncated. So I move my playhead to the point I want, and press command left bracket to set the region start to the playhead. Selecting my region first of course. This usually extends the audio, but it’s not doing that. It just extends the region, but there’s silence. I can’t seemingly extend any of my regions out in either direction. My only solution is I’ve found is to paste the audio back in from the finder and then assemble it that way, but this seems very silly. My other tracks work fine, and I can extend the regions as much as I want. It took me ten minutes to assemble the take, and it’s taken me two hours to try and fix this tiny truncated breath issue. Am I meant to press a comp button or something when I’ve assembled my takes. I’m not finding anything. I didn’t want to flatten the take folder as I thought that would loose all my takes, and it would be nice to have the option of changing my mind with a take decision if I really wanted to. Any ideas? Thanks.

David Eagle

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Apr 21, 2026, 8:48:02 PMApr 21
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Also, I notice that many of my region options aren’t available like fades. When I flatten the track, there are various overlapping bits of audio, which I’m not hearing when the track isn’t flattened. The odd part about this is that I have everything exactly how I want it, apart from this one breath, but if I flatten the track, the whole thing is a complete mess. Coming from reaper, I’m used to splitting items, changing to the take that I want, and then I can just grow and shrink those items or move them about. But Logic seems to be unhappy with me playing all fancy free with its precious take structure or something. Region editing works great, but seems to be acting like a petulant child if I start involving takes. Anyway, time for bed. Hopefully tomorrow will bring a renewed sense of optimism. 


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Well I was rather pleased with myself as I managed to assemble a very nice take from a few vocal takes. I split a region at the point where I wanted to make a change and used command shift up and down to select my takes. And continued doing that until the end of the project. But now I run into a problem. There is one bit where I want to extend my region start, as there is a breath that’s truncated. So I move my playhead to the point I want, and press command left bracket to set the region start to the playhead. Selecting my region first of course. This usually extends the audio, but it’s not doing that. It just extends the region, but there’s silence. I can’t seemingly extend any of my regions out in either direction. My only solution is I’ve found is to paste the audio back in from the finder and then assemble it that way, but this seems very silly. My other tracks work fine, and I can extend the regions as much as I want. It took me ten minutes to assemble the take, and it’s taken me two hours to try and fix this tiny truncated breath issue. Am I meant to press a comp button or something when I’ve assembled my takes. I’m not finding anything. I didn’t want to flatten the take folder as I thought that would loose all my takes, and it would be nice to have the option of changing my mind with a take decision if I really wanted to. Any ideas? Thanks.



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TheOreoMonster

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Apr 21, 2026, 9:22:49 PMApr 21
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Flatten the takes before you do any gain fades, or changing region start or end.. Yes reaper does some Voodoo like letting you item gain a MIDI item or some of the  things you discuss but not all DAWs has magical powers in that regards
The thing to be aware of when flattening take folders if you gotta make  sure you have all the regions or take folders on the track selected. Or at least the ones you want to flatten that doesn’t have overlapping regions. 
You can select all the regions on a track with Shift A, flatten with option shift U and then you should be able to extend the region with the truncated breath.
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David Eagle

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Ah, OK, so I suppose the workflow should be, make your take selections by splitting your regions and choosing your take, then duplicate that track, including track contents. Then flatten the track. This means you have a backup of your takes if you do need to change your mind about which take you want to use at any given point. Does that sound about right?

Fortunately I’ve rescued my project and can move on with my life.

Thanks.


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TheOreoMonster

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Apr 22, 2026, 12:50:27 PMApr 22
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That's one way of doing it. Another way is to make sure you have all regions selected then use the Move Active Take or Comp to New Track command Control Option N. That will move all your currently selected takes to the new track . This moves them out of the take folder. And saves the step of duplicating the track then flattening it. This also leaves the take folder in tact with unused takes in case you want to go through and use the remaining takes for doubles or etc.
You can alternatively use the Export Active Take or Comp to New Track command Control Option Shift N, which  exports a copy of the active or currently selected  takes to a new track but leaves them intact in the take folder. This is the same as duplicating the track and contents and then flattening  except done in one key command instead of two.

David Eagle

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Apr 23, 2026, 6:27:48 AMApr 23
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Thanks Steve. I originally was calling you Tom, because i hadn't worked out that TOM was The Orio Monster. Anyway, I'll give those key strokes a try next time. I think I did try one of those yesterday, before your email, and it seemed to comp everything to one region, but I'll give it a go later. I was needing to do some podcast editing yesteday, and I originally went to reaper to do it, thinking that this would be quicker as I'm used to it. But the last few days working in Logic, plus the different keyboard layout of the mac to the Windows computer, meant that I ended up going back to Logic and trying to do it all in there. And after a few minutes I'd really started flying through the editing. Thanks.

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TheOreoMonster

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Apr 23, 2026, 5:33:40 PMApr 23
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Option U Flatten and merge the regions into one long region. . Option Shift U only flattens the take folder.

Bruce Harrell

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Apr 23, 2026, 5:41:48 PMApr 23
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Option-u flattens and merges the region into one long region, meaning it merges all regions on the track?  Or does it mean something else?  If os, what?

Option-shift-u flattens the take folder, meaning only the current region's take folder gets flattened?  Or does this mean something else?

TheOreoMonster

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Apr 23, 2026, 6:16:14 PMApr 23
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It’s based on your selection . If you have all the regions on the track selected then Option U will flatten the take folder and give you all those regions joined or merged into one long region. 
Likewise Option Shift U will only flatten the take folder and leave you with the individual regions, just no takes.
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Bruce Harrell

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Apr 23, 2026, 7:05:15 PMApr 23
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Thanks.  That clarifies.

Bruce Harrell

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Hi Steve,

Would you please give me the step by step instructions to find the free course you offer in your footer?  I have tried multiple times to find it using your link, and I still haven't found it.

Your link is:


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Bruce Harrell

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Apr 24, 2026, 5:36:04 PMApr 24
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Oops.  that link should have been:



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TheOreoMonster

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Apr 24, 2026, 7:00:47 PMApr 24
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Hey Bruce, 

That’s the link to subscribe. In the emails I send out Below the subscribe link is a footer area with links to the course, Logic Magician, booking one on one training, becoming a channel member  etc. Since you are already subscribed and receiving my emails, if you can find an old email from me in your inbox  it should be at the very bottom of the email if you scroll all the way to the end of it. I’d be curious to see if it’s not showing up, if you can forward me an email you have received from the Blind Logic Pro substack and I’ll take a look.
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Oops.  that link should have been:


Bruce Harrell

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Apr 25, 2026, 1:53:58 PMApr 25
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The text inviting me to check out the free course appears in all your emails immediately above the link to subscribe, except it's not obvious it's a link to subscribe, so I was repeatedly fooled and led to believe it was the correct link to use to go to the free course, which repeatedly led me on a merry chase through a number of pages searching, searching, searching as the hourse flowed by.  The link to subscribe is not preceded by an invitation to subscribe; it is preceded by the text inviting me to check out the free course.  I have carefully examined all the links on your email end.  None of them take me to a free course.  The text invitation to check out the free course is expremely misleading, as are your repeated reassurances that all I need to do is use the link that isn't there, but you keep saying it is there, and only now are you saying it isn't.  Steve, I'm pissed.  I seriously hope you stop leading people to waste their time and fix that error before some other fool gets sucked into wasting hours of their own time, too.
 
Meanwhile, please just send me the God damned link?

David Eagle

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Apr 25, 2026, 4:30:42 PMApr 25
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Steady on, Bruce. I've just started with Logic, and one of the first things I did was go to that link, and was immediately sent the course upon entering my email. To be honest, I think the Logic Magician tutorials on Youtube, and the documentation when you install Logic Magician is a lot more up-to-date, and should give you everything you need.

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The text inviting me to check out the free course appears in all your emails immediately above the link to subscribe, except it's not obvious it's a link to subscribe, so I was repeatedly fooled and led to believe it was the correct link to use to go to the free course, which repeatedly led me on a merry chase through a number of pages searching, searching, searching as the hourse flowed by.  The link to subscribe is not preceded by an invitation to subscribe; it is preceded by the text inviting me to check out the free course.  I have carefully examined all the links on your email end.  None of them take me to a free course.  The text invitation to check out the free course is expremely misleading, as are your repeated reassurances that all I need to do is use the link that isn't there, but you keep saying it is there, and only now are you saying it isn't.  Steve, I'm pissed.  I seriously hope you stop leading people to waste their time and fix that error before some other fool gets sucked into wasting hours of their own time, too.

Bruce Harrell

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Apr 25, 2026, 5:23:51 PMApr 25
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Thanks David.  I'm happy you had no problems.  The sequence of events in my case were different, which is why I never received the getting started course  in a useable form, which, when I showed him, Steve himself observed that it shouldn't be that way and promised to fix it for me but never did.  I'm also glad you didn't have to ask Steve over and over again for STeve to send you the link because you were spending and wasting n incredible amount of time over and over again without success, trying to find it, and every time you asked Steve again for the link, he essentially told you to go find it yourself after giving you incorrect instructions how to find it yourself.  

I appreciate your attempt to cool thihngs down, but I'm afraid you only invited me to explain a situation with which you are not familiar.  I will wait for you to walk the path I've been walking, and then we can talk more, and perhaps you can tell me what you wished you and I had done differently.  For now, I'd dearly just love to know why Steve never sent me the stupid link, not even now, no matter how many times I asked for it, today repeatedly and before today repeatedly, after explaining all the things I was trying and time I was wasting, especially considering how much time and effort he would have saved himself, wholly aside from me, by simply copying the link and emailing it.  

I hate to say this, but this will give you an idea of what has been happening.  I'll give you 20- to 1 odds when he does send a link, it will be to a page with a zillion links, and the one I'm looking for is one of them, forcing me to go from link to link to link before I finally find it, assuming he doesn't do like he has in the past, where I had to do this link to link crap through several successive pages in search of a link that was never there.

In almost all other respects, I think Steve is a great guy, and I think he's doing great work.  I remember way back when I began urging him to do something like what he ended up doing with Logic Band etc.  He and I began tutoring in 2016.  I don't actually need 95% of the getting started course.  I wanted a refresher and to review an in depth module on sends, which he said in a later tutorial on using sends could be found in the getting started course, or so I recall.  As it happened, it turned out not to be in the getting started  series at all.  Steve sent me the title — not the llink, episode 23, not the link, and so far as I can tell, the getting started series ends with episode 18.

David Eagle

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The Logic Magician documentation has a comprehensive chapter on sends. There's also a YouTube video on sends in the Logic Magician YouTube tutorials. 
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Thanks David.  I'm happy you had no problems.  The sequence of events in my case were different, which is why I never received the getting started course  in a useable form, which, when I showed him, Steve himself observed that it shouldn't be that way and promised to fix it for me but never did.  I'm also glad you didn't have to ask Steve over and over again for STeve to send you the link because you were spending and wasting n incredible amount of time over and over again without success, trying to find it, and every time you asked Steve again for the link, he essentially told you to go find it yourself after giving you incorrect instructions how to find it yourself.  

Bruce Harrell

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Thanks, Dave.  Yes.  I am diligently working my way through all, based on Steve's recommendations when he ended our phone session tutoring with the advice to do exactly that, after which we would resume our phone tutoring sessions.

Thanks for your suggestion!  Your helpfulness is appreciated.  smile

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