Fwd: Application Criteria for 2013-14

[shimal kapoor]

this is the criteria originally drafted, attached with Surbhi's comments on the same. The next mail will contain the final versions, please go through them before the 1.30 meeting and raise concerns, if any, at the meeting. 1.30 in the acad today.

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Shimal S. Kapoor

II Year, B.A., LL.B. (Hons.)
National Law School of India University
Bangalore, India - 560072

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From: Surbhi Kuwelker <surbhikuw...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Subject: Fwd: Application Criteria for 2013-14
To: shimal kapoor <shi...@gmail.com>

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From: Surbhi Kuwelker <surbhikuw...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: Application Criteria for 2013-14

To: Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com>

The LnD one is fine - just one or two thing - tracked. the quiz ones I thought had some comments - just see and let me know? Am online to discuss only.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com> wrote:

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From: Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:11 PM
Subject: Application Criteria for 2013-14
To: Sounak Sarkar <sounak...@gmail.com>, Surbhi Kuwelker <surbhi....@gmail.com>
Cc: Aditya Patel <aditya....@gmail.com>

PFA suggestions for the application criteria for 2013-14 for LnD  as well as Quiz Board. For reference, PFA last years' member selection criteria. Let me know what changes need to be made.

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Nayan Banerjee

2nd Year, B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)

National Law School of India University, Bangalore

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Nayan Banerjee

2nd Year, B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)

National Law School of India University, Bangalore

[shimal kapoor]

PFA Nayan's response to Surbhi's mail and comments

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Shimal S. Kapoor

II Year, B.A., LL.B. (Hons.)
National Law School of India University
Bangalore, India - 560072

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Date: Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Subject: Fwd: Application Criteria for 2013-14
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From: Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Application Criteria for 2013-14

To: Surbhi Kuwelker <surbhikuw...@gmail.com>
Cc: Sounak Sarkar <sounak...@gmail.com>

Okay. Final version. I've attached last year's for comparison.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com> wrote:

PFA the pdf versions. Here "members/co-opts" has replaced "members" in the note under Caps & Deductions.

If these are fine, please put them up?

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com> wrote:

With regard to LnD member selections -

1. I've incorporated your suggestions and made changes. Do see what changes need to be further made.

2. I haven't specified the list of events since each application will anyway need to be vetted by the Convenor/JC.

With regard to Quiz Board selections -

1. I think we should select 6 Quiz Board members. Let them take 2 Co-opts after that.

2. Same as 1. in LnD member selections.

3. I haven't distinguished on the basis of organization points since we're creating a new board altogether and there's no need to prefer LnD over others in the creation of this Quiz Board the way we do it the LnD member criteria.

4. As all applications need to be vetted by the committees Convenor/JC and as there's no need to discriminate against LnD or prefer LnD, I've kept the committees as general.

Also, I think we'll just have to decide the awards in the 11:20 break.

[Nayan Banerjee]

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From: Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Application Criteria for 2013-14
To: Surbhi Kuwelker <surbhikuw...@gmail.com>
Cc: Sounak Sarkar <sounak...@gmail.com>

Okay. Final version. I've attached last year's for comparison.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com> wrote:

PFA the pdf versions. Here "members/co-opts" has replaced "members" in the note under Caps & Deductions.

If these are fine, please put them up?

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Nayan Banerjee <pfwsat...@gmail.com> wrote:

With regard to LnD member selections -

1. I've incorporated your suggestions and made changes. Do see what changes need to be further made.

2. I haven't specified the list of events since each application will anyway need to be vetted by the Convenor/JC.

With regard to Quiz Board selections -

1. I think we should select 6 Quiz Board members. Let them take 2 Co-opts after that.

2. Same as 1. in LnD member selections.

3. I haven't distinguished on the basis of organization points since we're creating a new board altogether and there's no need to prefer LnD over others in the creation of this Quiz Board the way we do it the LnD member criteria.

4. As all applications need to be vetted by the committees Convenor/JC and as there's no need to discriminate against LnD or prefer LnD, I've kept the committees as general.

Also, I think we'll just have to decide the awards in the 11:20 break.

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Nayan Banerjee

2nd Year, B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)

National Law School of India University, Bangalore

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Nayan Banerjee

2nd Year, B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)

National Law School of India University, Bangalore

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Nayan Banerjee

2nd Year, B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)

National Law School of India University, Bangalore

[Sounak Sarkar]

Okay, wanted to touch upon a few things here. (Having read the ORIGINAL DRAFT)

First, we need to clarify that top three positions do NOT count if the number of participants in an internal event were less than 5/6. It's meaningless to give performance points to the Top 3 positions in the absence of any competition. Ideally, it should be the FIRST place in case of three participants, Top 2 in the case of at least 5 participants, and Top 3 only in the presence of at least 8 participants. It has to be proportionate. Otherwise, it let's students get easy points to the detriment of more serious applicants towards the end of the year.

That said, I think the reduction in scale for points in Lit is welcome, given the scale of the events so far. They can be changed once the scale returns.

Second, wrt Parliamentary Debates, we need to classify bands based on the nature and scale of the tournament in the particular year. I think this year's SRDF merits only a Band 3 entry. So with Premchand, IIT Bombay and IIT Delhi. Unless I've missed something regarding the quality of competition and number of participants, I don't think they can be branded alongside tournaments like NUJS and NLS D.

Also, VIT deserves a higher rating this year for similar reasons. 

Third, I don't think it's legitimate to include separate points for Round 1 and 2 of University selections. Given it's a single process, it's like giving points concurrently for participation in, and performance in the same tournament. So, if you're including ranks as the basis of peformance, just go with the final rank list.

Also, are we demarcating novice breaks from main breaks? While the idea of novice category is to reward first timers, I doubt it classifies as performance in lieu of joining the committee. On that, there needs to be a separate disclaimer.

Breaking in Band 3 debates should not gather more than 2 points. I hope I don't have to explain this.

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Sounak Sarkar

V Year B.A. LL.B. (Hons.)

National Law School of India University

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I agree with everything sounak said.

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