FW: LPNH Offer to LNC

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 5:10:35 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Fw: LPNH Offer to LNC

Greetings, Forwarding this to public.


LPNH Excom being barred from leadership for a period, and the turnover of the social media achieves the goal of the disaffiliation. 

Other benefits:

-Increased national membership in NH, due to requirement for national membership to attend initial convention. 
-Avoidance of expensive litigation.
-Increased legitimacy due to good notice and participation of members all over the state. 
-Transition of existing assets and name, creating an affiliate that is ready to participate pretty much from the close of the convention. 
-Neutral convention chair, and transparent voting to assure public legitimacy of the outcome.

I believe that it would be a wise choice to consider this proposal. It increases participation of members in the formation process, and eliminates a long list of problems. 

I'm attaching the version that was sent to me to examine. 

Anyone who is a good organizational leader can see the long term benefits of this. 

Thank you. 

In Liberty, 

Alfa Shaw
Region 6


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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, 11 September 2026 18:24:27
To: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>; Entire LNC <entir...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC
 
Its a wonderful offer 


All we have to do is NOT be 1930's post weimar germans. 



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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, 11 September 2026 12:17:53
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>; Entire LNC <entir...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC
 
Greetings.

It also states theyd be ineligible for leadership. 

So: 

Kauffman and certain others ineligible for leadership. 
Social media turned over.

Wouldn't that accomplish pretty much the goals the disaffiliation was aiming for? 

Thank you. 

In Liberty, 



Alfa Shaw
Region 6


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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, 11 September 2026 18:13:49
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>; Entire LNC <entir...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC
 
Greetings. 

This looks like they're agreeing to turn over the assets to a new organization. 

Thank you.

In Liberty, 

Alfa Shaw
Region 6


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From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, 11 September 2026 18:10:04
To: Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>; Entire LNC <entir...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC
 
It's worth noting that they filed their petition for reaffiliation within hours of the LNC's vote to disaffiliate, and their re-filing had the same file name as the initial filing and contained no actual signatures.

Further, to my knowledge, they didn't have a convention at all to file for reaffiliation. 

I am skeptical, to say the least, that their faith is good.

Libertarian Party
 
Keith Thompson
At-Large Representative
Libertarian National Committee
 
Keith.Thompson@LP.org


From: Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2026 5:05 PM
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Entire LNC <entir...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC
 
And still using the LPNH designator too

Respectfully,

Richard Longstreth
At-Large Representative 
Libertarian National Committee

From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, 11 September 2026 17:03:55
To: Entire LNC <entir...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC
 
Nothing like getting unwanted mail from your ex.

Libertarian Party
 
Keith Thompson
At-Large Representative
Libertarian National Committee
 
Keith.Thompson@LP.org


From: Chair (Supreme Leader) <ch...@lpnh.org>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2026 4:00 PM
To: Entire LNC <entir...@lp.org>; Chair <ch...@lp.org>; secr...@lpnh.org <secr...@lpnh.org>; Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Subject: LPNH Offer to LNC
 
Libertarian National Committee Members,

A continued conflict in New Hampshire brings substantial risks and costs not just to the
Libertarian Party here, but to the Libertarian movement across the country.

While we still object to our disaffiliation, as Free Staters we believe we’re here to fight the state,
not each other.

Thus, we would like to transfer the following to a new affiliate:

1. All financial assets
2. All physical assets and party property
3. Any other desired assets, including digital and online assets, social media accounts,
website, and digital records

Financial asset transfers, as well as an organizational rename, cannot lawfully be completed
without a vote of our members. We have therefore scheduled a business convention for as soon
as our bylaws and feasibility allowed, on Saturday, November 7, with these agenda items.
Additionally, all of us promise to step away from executive or officer roles inside the national
Libertarian Party or any state affiliate for the duration of the current National Committee.

Our only stipulation is that the new affiliate has to hold a fair and open convention that allows all
Libertarians residing in New Hampshire to participate (see appendix in PDF). New Hampshire has greater libertarian density than any state in the country. A group selected by them should receive the affiliation and receive our assets, not any of these competing factional groups formed in secrecy by minorities of membership.

While the LNC may find LPNH responsible for the sins of its ancestors, it is not led by them. We write this letter in good faith. There’s no trick. We would like to resolve this dispute as amicably as possible for the good of the Party and the Free State.

Live Free or Die,

Jeremy Kauffman

Approved unanimously by the LPNH Executive Committee, and joined by:
Joshua Elbahrawy, Vice Chair; Daniel Koenig, Secretary; Brandon Stevens, Treasurer;
William Barger, Officer at-Large; Nathan Dwyer, Officer at-Large


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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 5:21:11 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik

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Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC

What do you mean by "Avoidance of expensive litigation."?

They've already litigated through the JC. Are you suggesting this is a threat to retain assets that should go to the new affiliate if their conditions aren't met?

This is reading more as a threat than an offer to be honest. 

Susan Hogarth
Region 5 Representative 


From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 13:10:35

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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 5:32:20 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC

We broke contract against LPNH, and engaged in fraudulent and unethical conduct against them. 

They can and should sue us. 

And now we are drooling over their assets. Which we do not own. 

They offer them freely — if we only follow our own rules and not disenfranchise our own people. 

Apparently too tall an order for the likes of Mimi and Keith. 

Nazis gonna nazi. 



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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 07:21:11

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From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 5:49:20 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC

Let’s please not read everything as a threat. 

Respectfully, 

Travis L. Bost
LNC Region 5 Alternate
Travi...@LP.org

From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 13:32:20

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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 6:31:16 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC

Progressive authoritarians (and other form of Nazi) see every form of freedom and critical expression as a threat, which is part of why they are so unnecessarily brutal and aggressive in any kind of negotiation and tend to become increasingly obsessed with crushing and silencing dissent. 

I've noticed every reasonable offer tends to be regarded with the same threat-paranoia. I suspect it is like the documented psychological phenomena attending the administration of most 20th-century dictatorships. 

Have a nice afternoon! 

Austin Martin



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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 7:41:47 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC

My great-grandparents were actually Japanese and German. Both lived in the United States.

They passed down stories from relatives who had served in the armies of their respective fatherlands.

After the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, family lore holds that Roosevelt immediately rose to a Point of Order.

The Japanese had failed to provide the required 60 days’ notice prior to commencing military action and had neglected to publish their intention to attack in two newspapers of general circulation.

Japan responded by citing Bylaws §5.11.4, which permitted preemptive military action in response to non-kinetic acts of war, including embargoes. As you well know, the United States had participated in an oil embargo against Japan.

There was considerable parliamentary confusion.

The matter was ultimately referred to the World Court, which sustained the Japanese point and ruled the attack procedurally in order.

The Americans protested.

Roosevelt then recognized a motion to intern the Japanese population of the United States. After considerable debate, the motion received the required three-fourths vote.

My great-grandfather attempted to appeal the ruling of Chairman Roosevelt.

The Chair was sustained.

Tough meeting.

On the German side of the family, stories were passed down about Normandy.

The ramps dropped. American soldiers poured onto the beaches through artillery, machine-gun fire, and almost certain death.

Then, somewhere above Omaha Beach, a young German officer emerged from a bunker and shouted:

“POINT OF ORDER!”

General Eisenhower came over the radio.

"The young German is now recognized.”

The German officer explained that while the Allies had previously adopted a motion authorizing the invasion of France, the motion had failed to specify which beach.

Silence.

Eisenhower consulted the Allied parliamentarian.

Unfortunately, the German was correct.

There followed an increasingly hostile forty-minute debate over whether “France” could reasonably be interpreted to include Omaha Beach, whether the landing constituted a subsidiary motion, and whether Eisenhower could cure the defect by unanimous consent.

Germany objected.

The parliamentarian recommended a do-over at the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Allied Powers.

Eisenhower reluctantly ruled the invasion out of order.

This caused considerable outrage among his base.

Patton accused the Chair of cowardice.

Churchill demanded an appeal.

De Gaulle questioned whether quorum had ever been established.

Thousands of troops were ordered back onto the landing craft pending proper notice.

It was, from the American perspective, quite a setback.

Procedure is procedure.

I am sure this body can relate.

Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
At-Large, LNC


From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2026 14:31:16

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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 8:33:13 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: LPNH Offer to LNC

The point of parliamentary procedure, Mr. Nekhaila, is to avoid aggressive combat. 

This, in a nutshell, sums up the problem. 

The rules of procedure govern the interactions of allies, not combatants. You are at war with your ostensible allies and the people you purport to represent. 

Your blunt, majority-dependent tactics do not serve the LNC political reality very well — we need excellent minority tactics to be effective in accomplishing our goals, until momentum brings us to "parity". 

Sincerely,
Austin Martin



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