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From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:00:07 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Colleagues,
I am forwarding this thread to the public due to Mr. Martin's X posts and email responses. I have previously stated my reluctance to deal with censures. I do not take them lightly and am hesitant to pursue them. However, I'm making this motion to censure because the public record shows Mr. Martin making repeated statements and accusations that are tantamount to threats designed to terrorize LNC and Party members in a way which jeopardizes the LNC to material legal and reputational damage.
Here is a short supplemental preface:
I am forwarding this thread to the public due to Mr. Martin's X posts and email responses. I have previously stated my reluctance to deal with censures. I do not take them lightly and am hesitant to pursue them. However, I'm making this motion to censure because the public record shows Mr. Martin making repeated statements and accusations that are tantamount to threats designed to terrorize LNC and Party members in a way which jeopardizes the LNC to material legal and reputational damage.
Here is a short supplemental preface:
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The phrase Mr. Martin has used repeatedly, "remove…by force and with extreme prejudice," is a phrase with violent connotations. It, along with the more common version, "terminate with extreme prejudice," carries a well established meaning of extrajudicial killing or assassination in military and intelligence contexts. It is widely understood to mean targeting with lethal intent. Its use here in a political context, by a person accusing several members of being subversives, infiltrators, and feds, especially after multiple recent instances of political violence across our nation, is much more alarming than the usual rhetorical hyperbole people use.
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Even under the most charitable read of being administrative or organizational enforcement only, other posts and comments undermine it. Specifically when he initially cosigned a post arguing lethal force against communists could be permissible, then partially walked it back while still asserting the argument was of "ethical merit." This is a documented pattern that cannot simply be dismissed as some careless utterance. The pattern is what has given grave concern to members.
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Mr. Martin has been begged and pleaded to clarify for the record whether he intended literal physical harm or only political remedies. He danced and joked around it. That refusal, along with the "ethical merit" sentiments, is the material basis for this motion.
Motion to Censure Mr. Austin Martin
Whereas, on September 20, 2025, Mr. Martin posted that he would "remove all socialist infiltrators from the LP by force and with extreme prejudice,"
Whereas, on that and the following days, Mr. Martin accused several members of the LNC and the Party of being "socialist infiltrators," "apologists," "radical Leftists," or otherwise "subversive" agents, repeating that they must be removed by force in a similar pattern of language,
Whereas, in a chain of posts on X, Mr. Martin initially cosigned or affirmed a post stating:
"You cannot murder a communist, anymore than you can murder a murderer. Killing a communist is not a violation of the NAP, unless they beg for their life and recant communism.
Whereas, on September 20, 2025, Mr. Martin posted that he would "remove all socialist infiltrators from the LP by force and with extreme prejudice,"
Whereas, on that and the following days, Mr. Martin accused several members of the LNC and the Party of being "socialist infiltrators," "apologists," "radical Leftists," or otherwise "subversive" agents, repeating that they must be removed by force in a similar pattern of language,
Whereas, in a chain of posts on X, Mr. Martin initially cosigned or affirmed a post stating:
"You cannot murder a communist, anymore than you can murder a murderer. Killing a communist is not a violation of the NAP, unless they beg for their life and recant communism.
By virtue of being a communist you have consented to all violence and given permission for your death" and then after walking back killing communists, in the same chain added "if communists are engaged in a subversive revolution, then the claim of the OP would
have ethical merit." That sequence of statements (endorsement, partial walkback, reaffirmation of "ethical merit") materially undercuts any plausible retraction, and bolsters the inference that Mr. Martin is treating lethal violence as a morally defensible
argument in some political circumstances.
Whereas, that rhetoric and the refusal to clarify results in Mr. Martin's intimidating behavior terrorizing members of this board, creating a hostile work environment, and violating the LNC Policy Manual's rules against harassment and offensive conduct (§1.07.5),
Whereas, the Libertarian Party's Statement of Principles categorically opposes initiation of force,
Whereas, Mr. Martin's hostility and intimidation increases the risk of legal, reputational, donor, and volunteer harm to the LNC and its fiduciary stakeholders,
Resolved, the Libertarian National Committee hereby censures Mr. Austin Martin for repeated use of threatening language, for accusing members and others of being "socialist infiltrators" and "apologists" while also treating murder of such people as having "ethical merit" in certain hypotheticals, for refusing to clarify that such language excludes all forms of physical violence, and for conduct with the seeming intent to terrorize the board, violating the duties and principles of this body. This censure shall be entered into the minutes and published to the membership.
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Mr. Chair,
I request that you call a special meeting to consider this motion. Should you not call a meeting within 24 hours, I will request other members to join me in meeting the threshold to do so.
I encourage everyone to spend the time between now and the meeting, should it be scheduled, to debate the motion here where we have not only hours, but days to get everything needed on the record. That way the meeting can consist mainly of closing arguments during debate before voting.
Whereas, that rhetoric and the refusal to clarify results in Mr. Martin's intimidating behavior terrorizing members of this board, creating a hostile work environment, and violating the LNC Policy Manual's rules against harassment and offensive conduct (§1.07.5),
Whereas, the Libertarian Party's Statement of Principles categorically opposes initiation of force,
Whereas, Mr. Martin's hostility and intimidation increases the risk of legal, reputational, donor, and volunteer harm to the LNC and its fiduciary stakeholders,
Resolved, the Libertarian National Committee hereby censures Mr. Austin Martin for repeated use of threatening language, for accusing members and others of being "socialist infiltrators" and "apologists" while also treating murder of such people as having "ethical merit" in certain hypotheticals, for refusing to clarify that such language excludes all forms of physical violence, and for conduct with the seeming intent to terrorize the board, violating the duties and principles of this body. This censure shall be entered into the minutes and published to the membership.
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Mr. Chair,
I request that you call a special meeting to consider this motion. Should you not call a meeting within 24 hours, I will request other members to join me in meeting the threshold to do so.
I encourage everyone to spend the time between now and the meeting, should it be scheduled, to debate the motion here where we have not only hours, but days to get everything needed on the record. That way the meeting can consist mainly of closing arguments during debate before voting.
Respectfully,
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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 3:37 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 3:37 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
If only the infiltration of the LP was a fever dream we could simply “wake-up” from...
That would be so nice.
But Javier Milei has the right idea: in a widely circulated interview, when asked why he calls leftists "shit," Milei responded, "BECAUSE THEY ARE SHIT!" and added, "If you think differently they will kill you!".
He has elaborated on this stance by claiming that any concession to leftists—no matter how small—will lead to their complete domination and societal destruction, stating, "You can’t give shit leftards a single inch," because "if you give them a millimeter they
will use it to destroy you".
Let's take Mr. Milei's advice and refuse to give shit leftists an inch in the LP.
It's something all real libertarians can truly agree on.
Austin Martin
R1
Join the fight and support the removal of Socialists from the LP by donating at the link below:
From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 9:44:37 AM
To: Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 9:44:37 AM
To: Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Dustin,
This is a fever dream, you haven't woken up yet.
This is a fever dream, you haven't woken up yet.
Ohio's not real, you are still on Spring Break in Mexico after doing a heroic dose of peyote with that girl with dreads.
Soon you'll be waking up on the beach, you intern for Lincoln National Corp, "somebody I used to know" by Gotye is playing on your iPhone 3G.
Outlook message sound
From: Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 3:08 PM
To: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 3:08 PM
To: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Haha this thread is still going lol.
How embarrassing for everyone involved.
From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:59:15 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:59:15 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
*behaviour towards others
Travis L. Bost
LNC At-Large
Travi...@LP.org
From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:58:11 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:58:11 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
I can’t speak for Mr. Martin’s interpretations, I can only speak for myself.
Travis L. Bost
LNC At-Large
Travi...@LP.org
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:38:21 PM
To: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:38:21 PM
To: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Because Mr. Martin is famous for giving charitable interpretations to others on this board, Mr. Bost? Please show me when was the last time he has done so. I really want mine and others' concerns to be mistaken. He can even say "You're an idiot for ever
thinking I meant physical force because I don't", and I would still be estatic as I'm getting insulted. But as you touched on, he is only reinforcing it, and that only adds to the concern.
From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 1:29 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 1:29 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
It takes a great deal of prejudice not to assume the most favorable interpretation of statements made by our libertarian colleagues without evidence or patterns to the contrary.
Such pattern or evidence doesn’t exist; lacking prejudice, I must assume the most favorable interpretation of Mr. Martin’s comments. This isn’t difficult.
As previously stated, we can use our words to explain this to those with mistaken concerns, rather than reinforcing them.
Travis L. Bost
LNC At-Large
Travi...@LP.org
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:13:36 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 2:13:36 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Good morning everyone!
Today is a fine day to forcibly remove socialism, fascism, and radical leftism from the LP with extreme prejudice!
We need to get rid of the LP's free-speech-hating hall-monitors, and goodness knows the trash won’t take itself out.
I’m working on some great plans (one of which involves the indiscriminate use of a high-capacity assault ukulele).
Who wants to help me?
Austin Martin
R1
Join the fight and support the removal of Socialists from the LP by donating at the link below:
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 1:58:25 AM
To: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 1:58:25 AM
To: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Mr. Martin,
There are two issues:
1. You have used concerning language in regard to how you would like to remove socialists/communists from the party (with extreme prejudice, a phrase used mainly in the context of killing people). You responded to the wrong X post and did correct for the record that you wouldn't kill them; however it was not unreasonable for people to get seriously concerned before you made that correction.
2. As stated in a previous email thread: "You are spewing accusations with reckless disregard." The reason why members on this board are worried is that they think that you wrongly believe them to be socialists/communists radical Leftists, etc. That, combined with the violent rhetoric is making things uneasy.
Let me be clear since you won't: if your aim is to have socialists/communists leave the party, and keep their failed economic theories out of it, then I am your ally. I believe that in a free market Ancapistan, people would be free to torture themselves with bad systems of any type as long as they are voluntary and consented to by the people who wish to participate in it. But the Libertarian Party is not Ancapistan at large. Much like that group of people can be moronic and subscribe to socialism, we too are a group of people and can determine what is and is not acceptable for the Party. Make a resolution denouncing socialism and stating it is not welcome in the party and I'll happily cosponsor.
You do not know what members of the board, let alone the party, have been through, though. I don't believe you will harm anyone personally, but after your comments a direct answer here in this email thread would go a long way to putting everyone at ease. Mr. Chadderdon lamented that members of this board "dance around issues." What would you call this? A direct statement would solve this immediately. I have personally pleaded for Mr. Martin to do so more than once now. I guess it is okay to demand for Mr. Hall to give you direct answers in writing and call anything but doing so evasion/dancing around issues/helping a coverup. But asking a member who is using violent rhetoric and erroneously agreed with a post in favor of political killings to directly answer is being unreasonable. Obtuse. Autistic. For all the talk about double standards, this one is clear as night and day.
There are two issues:
1. You have used concerning language in regard to how you would like to remove socialists/communists from the party (with extreme prejudice, a phrase used mainly in the context of killing people). You responded to the wrong X post and did correct for the record that you wouldn't kill them; however it was not unreasonable for people to get seriously concerned before you made that correction.
2. As stated in a previous email thread: "You are spewing accusations with reckless disregard." The reason why members on this board are worried is that they think that you wrongly believe them to be socialists/communists radical Leftists, etc. That, combined with the violent rhetoric is making things uneasy.
Let me be clear since you won't: if your aim is to have socialists/communists leave the party, and keep their failed economic theories out of it, then I am your ally. I believe that in a free market Ancapistan, people would be free to torture themselves with bad systems of any type as long as they are voluntary and consented to by the people who wish to participate in it. But the Libertarian Party is not Ancapistan at large. Much like that group of people can be moronic and subscribe to socialism, we too are a group of people and can determine what is and is not acceptable for the Party. Make a resolution denouncing socialism and stating it is not welcome in the party and I'll happily cosponsor.
You do not know what members of the board, let alone the party, have been through, though. I don't believe you will harm anyone personally, but after your comments a direct answer here in this email thread would go a long way to putting everyone at ease. Mr. Chadderdon lamented that members of this board "dance around issues." What would you call this? A direct statement would solve this immediately. I have personally pleaded for Mr. Martin to do so more than once now. I guess it is okay to demand for Mr. Hall to give you direct answers in writing and call anything but doing so evasion/dancing around issues/helping a coverup. But asking a member who is using violent rhetoric and erroneously agreed with a post in favor of political killings to directly answer is being unreasonable. Obtuse. Autistic. For all the talk about double standards, this one is clear as night and day.
From: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 11:58 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 11:58 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
I object to the notion that any of these people ever had “once promising political careers.”
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 8:33:04 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 8:33:04 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Mr. Bohler,
To clarify:
Extreme = a very high degree
Prejudice = discriminatory animus
Would you prefer I say "I will eviscerate socialism from the LP?"
"I will drive them out like prey animals before a lion?"
Or maybe
"I will skip though the dashed ashes of their political aspirations."
Or how about this:
"I will drink the lifeblood of their dreams while dancing on the broken bones of their once-promising political careers while singing the memorial songs of their failed infiltration?"
Too much drama undermines the seriousness of the problem. I think: "I will remove socialists from the LP by force and with extreme prejudice" gets the point across well enough.
There will be a zero-tolerance policy for socialism, communism, fascism, and radical leftism.
This is not negotiable.
But in return, as a concession of good faith, I will offer a zero-tolerance policy to bigotry.
Sound fair?
Austin Martin
R1
Join the fight and support the removal of Socialists from the LP by donating at the link below:
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 5:17:40 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 5:17:40 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
“I promise to remove the socialists and radical leftists (and their apologists) from the Libertarian Party by force and with extreme prejudice.”
It is not unreasonable for members to be concerned. You are responsible for how you communicate Mr. Martin.
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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 9:23 PM
To: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 9:23 PM
To: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Aloha!
“I promise to remove the socialists and radical leftists (and their apologists) from the Libertarian Party by force and with extreme prejudice.”
I stand by that as a promise.
If this worries you, please feel free to censure me.
Have a great weekend!
Austin Martin
R1
Join the fight and support the removal of Socialists from the LP by donating at the link below:
From: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 4:19:53 PM
To: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 4:19:53 PM
To: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
I don’t think we need a Spanish Inquisition for this. It’s not going to be resolved to anyone’s satisfaction.
From: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:15:17 PM
To: Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:15:17 PM
To: Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Mr. Weir, this sounds like violence to me.
From: Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 10:12:41 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 10:12:41 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Unsubscribe.
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 10:11:29 PM
To: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 10:11:29 PM
To: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Mr. Chadderdon,
No, I do not personally believe Mr. Martin is an immediate threat of murder, now (see how easy that is).
A part from my original draft of that first email that didn't get put in:
I understand that people use violent euphemisms as a way to express their frustration (You get paint on your sibling and they say "I'm going to murder you.", etc.) I don't believe Mr. Martin would physically harm me or any other member of this party or board. That being said, you aren't aware of what everyone on this board has been through in the past, and they need not be autistic or intentionally obtuse to voice concerns. The remedy to assuage them is easy "by force, I do not mean to physically harm with violence..." Why is that so difficult?
I had changed it after reading a thread where it appeared Mr. Martin agreed with a post saying that it was okay to kill communists unless they repent. That by being communists, they consent to their own murder. He was also insinuating that people in this
party are socialists/communists. Put 2 and 2 together, and you can see the cause for concern. That's what led me to include the references to murderers from my own state affiliate to showcase why we have to take veiled threats seriously. Hence asking Mr.
Martin to "unveil" them and clarify what he means. A threat of unseating someone from their position is fine. A threat of physical harm is not.
I then removed a lot of the quotes from him and tying them to his comment that he agreed with the consent to murder post when I found a tweet where he said he was meaning to respond to a different post. Like I said, that is a great relief. I would say beforehand
I was 99.9% sure he wasn't meaning physical harm or killing, but it is a serious enough issue where even that 0.1% is too much.
You remember the late night conversation with Nekhaila, Darr, and Martin. You heard me ask Mr. Martin at that time to please try and be less hostile in his communications. That he is free to express what he likes, but he should try to deliver it in a way
that doesn't make others feel attacked needlessly. I don't think anyone on this board is feeling attacked when their views are being countered/criticized. He is not addressing ideas, though, but people. This is a consequence of how he chooses to communicate.
Sincerely,
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From: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 9:09 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 9:09 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
This shit is so retarded
From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 10:07:45 PM
To: Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 10:07:45 PM
To: Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Andrew,
Let’s not play semantics. Nobody here is confused about the difference between removing someone by a parliamentary vote and saying you will remove them “by force with extreme prejudice.”
Mr. Martin has repeated that phrase, stated its justified under the NAP, and when asked point-blank if I (and others) should be removed by force, answered
“Yes.” That is not parliamentary language. That is threatening rhetoric.
You’ve chosen to dismiss and excuse that behavior, but it doesn’t change the facts. When board members express concern that violent language might lead to violent acts, that is not “clownish,” it is taking words at face value like adults should.
If Mr. Martin does not want to be misunderstood, he should clearly state:
“By ‘force’ I mean only political/organizational processes (motions, votes, campaigns); I do not mean physical force or intimidation against any member.”
If such an unequivocal clarification is not provided, or if this rhetoric continues, the Board should consider pursuing further measures including censure, suspension of rights, and a formal investigation.
And for the record, I am a Libertarian for a reason, I hate socialism.
And for the record, I am a Libertarian for a reason, I hate socialism.
Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC
From: Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 9:48 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 9:48 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
I wish there was as much concern about abiding the statement of principles as there is about defending socialism.
The LNC must support the prohibition of robbery, trespass, fraud, and misrepresentation. This is part of the philosophy upon which the Libertarian Party is founded, by which it shall be sustained, and through which liberty shall prevail.
Y'all actions to argue we are not bound to the SoP are antithetical to the prevalence of liberty. As is socialism.
PS.
This board has removed members multiple times "by force". It is inappropriate to make the leap from that statement to "I think you might murder your family or one of us"... Frankly, that seems like a basis to substantiate one's own use of force...
Mr Bohler, you should immediately clarify your statements. Are you suggesting that he is an immediate threat of murder to attempt to justify harming Mr Martin?
More than one can play this clownish game.
Andrew Chadderdon
Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:59:54 PM
To: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:59:54 PM
To: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Mr. Martin,
The concern is that you have insinuated that Nekhaila and his "cadre" are socialists (or at least behave like them so at least apologists?)
I don't think any member of this board would consider themselves a communist or socialist. I personally think that socialism is easily refuted as a horrible economic system that subjugates all who participate in it. Many people live in a way others including myself disagree with. I don't drink, but I'm not going to use "force" on someone who does unless they try to force alcohol on me against my will. Likewise, if a commune wants to experiment with a failed economic system, and see how long it takes to collapse and become more hierarchically unbalanced than a lopsided wedding cake, they should be free to make their mistakes...as long as they are not forcing it on others. That's why voluntaryists don't categorically exclude anarcho-socialists, but we can agree that anarcho-capitalism/anarcho-libertarianism is far superior, and sometimes those kids will just have to learn from their own mistakes to really understand why free markets are the best solution.
If what you mean by force is trying to whip votes or campaigns to remove board members or other party members from the LNC or other positions they hold. Fine. That's politics. Go for it. Anything else is despicable at best, and criminal at worst. So please, explicitly make it clear. I'm begging you.
The concern is that you have insinuated that Nekhaila and his "cadre" are socialists (or at least behave like them so at least apologists?)
I don't think any member of this board would consider themselves a communist or socialist. I personally think that socialism is easily refuted as a horrible economic system that subjugates all who participate in it. Many people live in a way others including myself disagree with. I don't drink, but I'm not going to use "force" on someone who does unless they try to force alcohol on me against my will. Likewise, if a commune wants to experiment with a failed economic system, and see how long it takes to collapse and become more hierarchically unbalanced than a lopsided wedding cake, they should be free to make their mistakes...as long as they are not forcing it on others. That's why voluntaryists don't categorically exclude anarcho-socialists, but we can agree that anarcho-capitalism/anarcho-libertarianism is far superior, and sometimes those kids will just have to learn from their own mistakes to really understand why free markets are the best solution.
If what you mean by force is trying to whip votes or campaigns to remove board members or other party members from the LNC or other positions they hold. Fine. That's politics. Go for it. Anything else is despicable at best, and criminal at worst. So please, explicitly make it clear. I'm begging you.
Sincerely,
From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 6:53 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 6:53 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
…and what, if anything, is to be done about them.
Travis L. Bost
LNC At-Large
Travi...@LP.org
From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:52:32 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:52:32 PM
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
I believe the answer to "how much socialism is acceptable in the LP?" is comparable, more or less, to the answer of how much bigotry is acceptable. The issue is both are often in the eye of the beholder and carry different levels of stigma.
Travis L. Bost
LNC At-Large
Travi...@LP.org
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:39:38 PM
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:39:38 PM
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Mr. Martin,
Please make what you mean by "force" abundantly clear. Several members of this board have genuine concern about these comments. The concern isn't about ideology or political differences, but the hostile language you are using.
Please make what you mean by "force" abundantly clear. Several members of this board have genuine concern about these comments. The concern isn't about ideology or political differences, but the hostile language you are using.
We have had former leadership in the Libertarian Party of Alabama (LPA) go on to commit murder. Frank Monachelli, a former LPA Chair,
killed three family members and then himself. Jeff Allen, a former LPA Vice Chair,
shot and killed his business partner before taking his own life as well:
April 28: Darren Keith "Freddy" Palmer, 44, was shot and killed by Jeff Allen, 46, who then killed himself. The two were business associates who shared an office leased from fellow Libertarian party official Jimmy Blake at 1575 Montgomery Highway, where the shootings occurred.
Because of that history, violent rhetoric by libertarians cannot be brushed off as "faux concern."
You needn't change your position, but you do need to clarify: do you mean to physically harm people, or not? It's easy, you can make a simple statement like "by force, I do not mean physical violence" and then we can put this matter to rest.
I'm glad I found a tweet from you stating (after I wrote all of the above):
Ah, I was responding to the wrong post. I don’t agree with killing folks, even communists. I have another post calling to uphold the NAP in the LP, by removing communists, and I confused the threads. My mistake.
This makes me, personally, feel a lot better. I would still like a statement saying it doesn't mean physical harm. We are not being obtuse. We need our concerns assuaged that political disagreements don't turn into physical threats. Especially after what
happened last week.
Sincerely,
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From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 5:34 PM
To: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 5:34 PM
To: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
"How much socialism do you think is an acceptable amount in the LP?"
As much as is voluntary - the same goes for capitalism or any system of trade.
Keith Thompson
Region 3 South Rep
From: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:40 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:40 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
….do we even have any socialists in the LP?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 11:31:29 AM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 11:31:29 AM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Aloha, Steven.
My intentions are quite clear:
I will be removing the steaming pile of socialist trash from the LP.
That is all.
Have an excellent weekend!
Austin Martin
R1
Join the fight and support the removal of Socialists from the LP by donating at the link below:
From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 8:26:18 AM
To: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 8:26:18 AM
To: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
And a furry twink with a rifle shot and killed someone last week. I don’t know his intentions, he admitted I should be removed by force, swiftly, with extreme prejudice.
Am I worried? Should I be?
Is that something we should just let slide?
If he was 200lbs and armed, should I be concerned?
I'll ask Mr. Martin again, what are your intentions?
From: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:22:27 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:22:27 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Yeah, the 100lb beach bum with the ukulele is quite intimidating. Run to hills everyone!
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:13:04 PM
To: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:13:04 PM
To: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
I would encourage everyone to read the entire forwarded exchange between me and Mr. Martin before commenting.
You will have to open up the entire previous conversation by expanding the entire email. Then come to a conclusion about this exchange and Mr. Martins intent, especially when asks who will stand in his way.
Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC
From: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:11:57 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:11:57 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Only the most autistic and the intentionally obtuse would believe that Austin is gonna Pinochet members into the Grand Rapids at the convention. Can we stop with the faux outrage?
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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:05:41 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 2:05:41 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Aloha!
I'm including the rest of the board since I figure this question is pretty important for everyone.
The question is:
"How much socialism is an acceptable amount in the LP?"
I intend to force the removal of all the socialists, radical-leftists, and communists from the LP.
Who here is going stand in my way?
Austin Martin
R1
Join the fight and support the removal of Socialists from the LP by donating at the link below:
From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:57 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:57 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
To the degree soft communism exists in the LP, our ideology forms a protective barrier, they leave my choice.
If they do not, do you believe it is okay to use violence to expel them, by any means necessary?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:55:14 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:55:14 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Good, I agree.
But you didn’t answer my question.
How much socialism is an acceptable amount in the LP?
If you can answer that question, it also answers your other question as well.
Austin Martin
R1
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:50:46 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:50:46 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Libertarianism is the antithesis of socialism/communism. Your turn.
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:49:57 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:49:57 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Trade an answer for an answer?
How much socialism do you think is an acceptable amount in the LP?
Austin Martin
R1
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:47:40 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:47:40 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Can you be explicit what you mean by swift removal, reputational, political, physical, removing one from this plane of existence?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:46:30 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:46:30 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
I suppose that depends on whether you intend reverse course and help me remove socialism from the LP, or whether you plan to keep on protecting the trash.
Choice is yours.
As it sits now, yes.
You and your little cadre are some of the biggest adversaries of LP principles, even openly claiming they do not bind the LNC. You have openly embraced fraud and deception. That kind of subversive behavior is something I associate with saboteurs and socialists,
and I do think deserves swift removal.
It’s never too late to change direction, though.
Austin Martin
R1
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:37:11 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:37:11 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Do you view me as a socialist symphasizer and believe I should be removed by force?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:36:22 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:36:22 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Not to a defender of socialists.
Austin Martin
R1
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:35:24 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:35:24 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Can you explain how you plan on going about that objective?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:34:24 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:34:24 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
As I said before, I believe it is my job to uphold the NAP — and to defend our statement of principles.
That means, in this case, yeeting the socialist scumbags out of the LP with extreme prejudice.
Do you have a problem with me removing all the socialists and their apologists from the LP?
There seem to be a fair number of socialists and socialism-apologists in our midst.
How much socialism do you think is an acceptable amount in the LP?
Austin Martin
R1
From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:25 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:25 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
So, you believe it is okay to use physical force against who you view as leftists, as you believe they are violating the NAP. Am I correct in this understanding?
How many such leftists do you believe exist in the LP? Do any exist on this board?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:23:09 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:23:09 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Yes.
All subversive NAP violators should be concerned about forced ejection.
If they weren’t concerned, it would imply they were welcome, and that we aren't doing our jobs.
Hence my question: how much socialism do you think is acceptable to tolerate in the LP?
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:18:01 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:18:01 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Should “leftists” be concerned about force being used against them?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:17:20 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:17:20 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
How much socialism do you think is an acceptable amount in the LP?
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:15:59 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 7:15:59 AM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Concerned about what?
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:13:27 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2025 1:13:27 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Good. Leftists should be concerned.
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 2:47:26 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 2:47:26 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Your post was not obvious, when I have members concerned about a board member saying they will use force to remove them, especially in the current political climate, it is cause for concern.
I have board members concerned with their employers being threatened, swatted, and physical violence.
You represent the country's third largest political party, your words have weight, start acting like it.
Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 8:11:46 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 8:11:46 PM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Aloha, Mr. Nekhaila!
Explain?? I'm insulted.
I think it is rather obvious what I mean:
"I will remove the socialist trash from our party, especially leadership." Why does this require clarification?
Should we not uphold the NAP?
Or are principles as disposable to you as they are to the socialists?
Oh, that's right — I forgot I was talking to Steven "principles-don't-bind-the-LNC" Nekhaila and his merry band of patsies and bagholders.
I don't feel like explaining any further.
Censure me.
Have a great day!
Austin Martin
R1
From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 1:31:49 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: X Post
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2025 1:31:49 PM
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Subject: X Post
Mr. Martin,
Please explain what you mean by this. Especially considering calling your colleagues leftist infiltrators.
Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC
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From: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:10:36 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Imagine wasting time on Friday night to write this. You have the audacity to ask that we waste more of our weekend for an “emergency” meeting where you get to show the membership how “serious” you are taking this by wearing a suit and tie to a zoom meeting.
No thanks.
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 7:00:07 PM
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From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:14:15 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Mr. Dassing,
I didn't request a weekend meeting. I believe the soonest we could meet would be Wednesday evening of next week.
There was plenty of criticism over the last motion to censure being an e-mail ballot, so we can split the difference and debate here before having a short meeting next week, and preserve both our weekend and the future business meeting to deal with business instead of misconduct.
Sincerely,
I didn't request a weekend meeting. I believe the soonest we could meet would be Wednesday evening of next week.
There was plenty of criticism over the last motion to censure being an e-mail ballot, so we can split the difference and debate here before having a short meeting next week, and preserve both our weekend and the future business meeting to deal with business instead of misconduct.
Sincerely,
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From: Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 6:10 PM
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 6:10 PM
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:21:03 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Does 7:30PM EST on Wed, Oct 1st work for everyone?
Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC
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From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:28:57 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
That date and time works for me.
Thank you,
Thank you,
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 6:21 PM
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 6:21 PM
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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:31:10 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Cc: LNC Board <lncb...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: X Post
Mr. Secretary,
Please give notice.
Sincerely.
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC
From: Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 7:28:57 PM
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 7:28:57 PM
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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:33:36 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Mr. Chair,
Luckily you caught me moments before heading out the door for home. Give me a few minutes and I will have the notice sent out.
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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2025 1:17:26 AM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
How is this censure going to stop me from removing communism and socialism from the Libertarian Party?
Austin Martin
R1
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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 1:33:36 PM
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From: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2025 1:35:50 AM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Yall mothers took Tylenol
From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 9:17:26 PM
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From: Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2025 3:11:41 AM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Can we not do another meeting in the middle of work hours during the work week?
Or how about no more meetings ever, tbh. I don’t want this ruining my weekend either.
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I move to make the next meeting February 31st.
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