FW: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

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From: Jonathan McGee <jonatha...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2026 8:32:35 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

LNC Board Members,

This is the Discussion Thread for the LNC Special Monthly Meeting on Sunday, August 2nd, 2026 at 7:00 p.m. ET

This thread is for discussing/workshopping of motions/resolutions so that the actual notice thread doesn't get cluttered with discussion.

In Liberty,

Jonathan McGee

Secretary, Libertarian National Committee

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From: Kelly Nguyen <kelly....@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2026 2:30:00 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Agenda Discussion Item: McArdle Litigation Update

Requested Time: 15 minutes

An update on the status of the McArdle litigation and any developments since the last update from the LNC Special Meeting on July 5, 2026. Because this involves pending litigation and discussion with legal counsel, I request that this item be held in executive session if that is necessary with any details to be released publicly that are possible.

In Liberty,

Kelly

Kelly Nguyen At-Large Representative Libertarian National Committee   kelly....@lp.org Donate at lp.org/nguyen

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From: Jonathan McGee <jonatha...@lp.org>
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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2026 2:38:12 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

This will aready be part of the standing Executive Session with council.

Evan McMahon Chair Libertarian National Committee evan.m...@lp.org ‪(317) 455-6986 lp.org

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From: Kelly Nguyen <kelly....@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Thank you.

In Liberty,

Kelly

Kelly Nguyen At-Large Representative Libertarian National Committee   kelly....@lp.org Donate at lp.org/nguyen

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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2026 4:38 AM

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 9:12:31 AM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

I would like the guidance of the Chair here. (@Evan McMahon). 

Would it be appropriate to ask for an agenda item requesting a report from R1 Alt and LPO Chair @Sonja Feintech on the Oregon nominating convention that took place 7/25? If LPO has nominated registered Republicans for partisan offices (as a member has indicated to me), there are concerns about how the national party should respond as this seems like it might be a straightforward national bylaws violation. It might be best to just begin this discussion at the August meeting, since we're so close. 

If the Chair would like to keep this discussion strictly on list for now, I'm fine with that. I just don't think we can ignore the issue. Perhaps the information I have is incorrect or inadequate; it is certainly incomplete. I think it's our duty to understand what happened before we can respond, if a response is warranted. 

• Susan

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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 10:10:20 AM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

I have a problem with this behavior. 

It is not okay to start an inquisition and demand a report from a state over their own convention outcome you don't like. Actual libertarians have a saying: "mind your own business": the LNC should give it a try.

A lot of states have fusion ballots. I wish Hawaii had them. You may not like it, but it isn't your business. Get TF over it. Stop trying to cause more infighting. Fusion ballots aren't a national bylaws breach. Violating affiliate autonomy is. 

We don't have any right to control state affiliates; we are supposed to serve them. We do so poorly. We don't get to make state chairs get up and explain themselves to us because we don't like their convention outcomes. 

This looks to me like another brazen attempt to pick a politically-motivated fight with yet another state affiliate over their autonomous operational decisions. 

Sincerely,

Austin Martin 

R1

PS: please stop being literal Nazis. Thanks. Some of you guys are on a revenge-quest and its gross. 

Ua mau ke ea o ka ʻāina i ka pono

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Monday, 27 July 2026 23:12:31

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From: Sonja Feintech <sonja.f...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 11:38:32 AM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>; Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Hi Susan,

 While I'm not sure what actionable item there would be in bringing this up during a meeting I am very happy to discuss the recent convention LPO had this last weekend in my capacity as LPO chair. 

You may not be aware of this but Oregon, along with other states like Mississippi, New York, Vermont, and Connecticut allow fusion nominations per their state law. The LPO bylaws allow for both regular members and registered members to be nominated for office to partisan races and only registered members have the opportunity to vote for their nominees at convention. We also had Pacific Green Party candidates and We the People Party candidates running for our nomination in attendance as well. 

I will have a full write up of the days events available soon that I will be happy to share here on the public list so everyone can be informed. We also nominated 7 registered LPO candidates to various state House and Senate districts, the biggest slate LPO has had in many years. 

While some of the outcomes may not be the ones desired by LPO members, we are operating under state law and our state party bylaws. We've always been vulnerable to this mechanism due to that fact. Thankfully we have a business convention in the spring where members can hopefully make adjustments to our bylaws to help mitigate outcomes like the ones you detailed before. 

I look forward to discussing this more, hopefully my recap will be finished in the next couple days and that may answer any further questions you or anyone else may have. 

Cheers

Sonja Feintech

LNC Region 1 Alt

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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2026 03:10:20

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 12:18:59 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik

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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Thank you Sonja,

I do know that Oregon is a fusion state but I wasn't sure if these are fusion candidates and honestly I've never been entirely clear on how fusion candidates would work within the LP's bylaws. It is something that I think would be a good idea to discuss at the August meeting, but I will defer to the Chair to see if it makes sense to have it on our agenda. 

Appreciate your thoughtful reply. 

• Susan 

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From: Sonja Feintech <sonja.f...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 7:38 AM

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From: Sonja Feintech <sonja.f...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 12:26:19 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

I would also suggest LNC members who are curious about fusion nominations to look at LPNY and their fusion ballots in the recent years. I could be incorrect but I do not recall the LP intervening in any of those either as they did not violate their state or national bylaws. But regardless, I appreciate the discussion on this topic.

Sonja Feintech

LNC Region 1 Alt

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2026 05:18:59

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 1:06:47 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

The fact that this is a can we’ve kicked down the road for some time doesn’t make continued can-kicking the right thing to do. 

The Bylaws seem fairly clear to me and seem to make no exceptions for fusion candidates:

“No affiliate party shall endorse any candidate who is a member of another party for public office in any partisan election.”

Maybe there’s a reading of it that I don’t grok, though. And naturally the ability of the national party to change things at the state party level is limited, both by design and by inclination. 

• Susan 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 8:26 AM

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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 1:10:48 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik

To: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Mrs. Hogarth,

I do not believe this topic is ripe for discussion by the LNC as it would not be an actionable item.

While our bylaws do not appear to have an explicit carveout or exemption for fusion candidates, it has long been the practice of the LNC to assume that nominations of candidates by an affiliate in a fusion state to not be in violation of Article 6 Section 4:

No affiliate party shall endorse any candidate who is a member of another party for public office in any partisan election. No affiliate party shall take any action inconsistent with the Statement of Principles or these bylaws.

If a fusion candidate meets the statutory and affiliate bylaws requirements to be nominated by and/or carry the affiliates ballot line, then it is within the spirt of the national bylaws. Absent a finding otherwise from the members of that affiliate, it is not within our authority to question the affiliate.

If the members of an affiliate in a fusion state are unhappy with a nomination or endorsement, they have options. If they feel their bylaws were abused or contorted, they have options.

However, if the members of an affiliate do find that their bylaws or state statute were violated to endorse or nominate a candidate from another party, then members of the LNC could seek a motion to censure or even to disaffiliate. But, again, I believe the matter should first be addressed by the members of the affiliate.

In Liberty,

Evan

Evan McMahon Chair Libertarian National Committee evan.m...@lp.org ‪(317) 455-6986 lp.org

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 1:17:39 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Mr. Martin,

While you may be frustrated or disagree with a request from another board member, you shall not breach our rules by calling board members nazis or otherwise demeaning or attacking them. I would not accept that behavior against you and I will not accept it from you.

Please come to order and refrain from this behavior moving forward. Discourse shall be professional and in line with commentary standards of a national organization. 

Evan McMahon Chair Libertarian National Committee evan.m...@lp.org ‪(317) 455-6986 lp.org

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Thanks! 

I can agree on the 'ripeness/not actionable' issue and am happy to take discussion elsewhere. I also understand the 'customary' and 'should come from within the state party' arguments, though I'm a little less comfortable with a 'within the spirit of our bylaws' approach when in fact it doesn't seem to be in that spirit at all to me. 

I hope this is an issue that the Bylaws Committee will address for '28 (and that we will actually have time to get to in convention) because it's been a bit of a thorn in our side for years in my opinion. 

• Susan

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Greetings. 

I'm going to put my coffee down and breathe for a moment before typing anymore. 

Ok. (Exhale)

Am I to understand that I just witnessed the LNC Representative for Region 5  fishing around for a cause to bring a disaffiliation vote vs Oregon??

Thank you. 

In disbelief, 

Alfa Shaw

Region 6

"Relationships begin with Understanding"

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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Mr. Shaw,

I don't want to speak for Mrs. Hogarth, but I do not believe that was/is her intent. Discussion on this issue has been circulating social media the past few days and I believe she simply wanted a discussion on it by the LNC. I did not see any other request other than to ask the Chair if adding a discussion to the agenda was in order.

Also, at this time, I would rule any such motion to censure out of order.

In Liberty,

Evan 

Evan McMahon Chair Libertarian National Committee evan.m...@lp.org ‪(317) 455-6986 lp.org

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Alfa,

I’m glad you signed off “in disbelief” because that is absolutely not what you witnessed. 

If we are to be effective as a board we have to be able to have discussions on difficult issues without immediately jumping to the conclusion that someone who may disagree with us or have a different perspective is trying to harm the organization. 

Enjoy the rest of your coffee. 

• Susan 

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From: Barbara Engelhardt <barbara.e...@lp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 2:38:32 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

I appreciate this statement from the Chair: “I do not believe this topic is ripe for discussion by the LNC as it would not be an actionable item.”

I believe that provides a legitimate denouement.

Barbara Engelhardt 

LNC Reg 4 Alt Rep

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

Greetings. 

Ms. Hogarth,

There are serious concerns from at least a dozen states that some members of this LNC may have an undeclared goal of finding reasons to disaffiliate paleo leaning state affiliates and replace them with newly affiliated groups made of people who splintered off around 2022. 

Some have wondered "Who's next after LPNH?".

Posting something asking about taking action against Oregon for possibly nominating Republican candidates in violation of the national bylaws Certainly can sound like preparation for a repeat of the May 25^th action. 

Anyone reading what you posted, and my response can judge for themselves whether or not I came to some wild illogical conclusion based on what was written.

Thank you. 

In Liberty, 

Alfa Shaw

Region 6

"Relationships begin with Understanding"

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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Discussion Thread for August LNC Meeting

I am noticing a budget amendment:

Move to increase the 2026 LNC Budget line item Legal-Proactive by $80,000. Discussion to be held in Executive Session.

Evan McMahon Chair Libertarian National Committee evan.m...@lp.org ‪(317) 455-6986 lp.org

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
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