FW: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

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From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 6:36:27 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Subject: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

Good morning,

While I think most of us agree on the rights and responsibilities regarding the public list, I do think there's value in defining some standards.

As such, I am seeking cosponsors for the following policy manual amendment: 

Move to amend the Policy Manual to add the following as section 1.07.5:

CURRENT: None

PROPOSED: Public Email List

A. The National Committee shall maintain a publicly accessible, searchable electronic mail list (the "Public List") for electronic communications involving the entire LNC concerning Party business, including votes, discussion, and pending motions seeking cosponsors.

B. Communications concerning matters subject to Executive Session shall not be published to the Public List. When noticing items to be discussed in Executive Session, a notice shall instead be posted identifying the subject matter of the Executive Session, consistent with the requirements for entering Executive Session.

C. Communications from Party members sent to the National Committee shall be considered confidential, so as not to dissuade members from reaching out to their representatives, unless (1) the sender is a member of the National Committee or (2) the sender gives express written consent prior to publishing their message to the Public List.

1. National Committee members are responsible for the contents of the messages that they forward to the Public List.

2. Any National Committee member who violates the above policy shall have their ability to post directly to the Public List revoked for no longer than seven (7) days. During this period, the Secretary shall report any and all of the offending member’s votes and noticed meeting items to the Public List.

D. National Committee members are expected to maintain standards of conduct, including on the Public List, and shall not:

1. Disclose information protected by Executive Session

2. Use the Public List to advocate for the electoral success of another political party or against the success of the Libertarian Party

3. Use the Public List to engage in conduct prohibited by the Policy Manual

 

E. Being that the Public List is a Party asset used for business and the National Committee is responsible for the communications transmitted thereon, the Chair or designee may use the Public List to call a member to order for their conduct on the list.

1. If, within any 72-hour period, a member is called to order three times on the Public List, the Chair or designee shall open a ballot to restrict the offending member’s access to the Public List for a specified period of time. The duration of the restriction must be specified in the ballot. The motion shall require a 2/3 vote.

2. In the event a member’s access to the Public List is revoked according to the method delineated above, the member shall lose their ability to post directly to the Public List during the time period specified. During this period, the Secretary shall report any and all of the offending member’s votes and noticed meeting items to the Public List.

Respectfully,

Keith Thompson At-Large Representative Libertarian National Committee   Keith.Thompson@LP.org LP.org/ThompsonDonor

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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 6:38:22 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

Second.

Sincerely,

Steven Nekhaila

At-Large, LNC

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From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 14:36:27

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 6:47:45 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik

To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

Cosponsor

Susan Hogarth

Region 5 Representative 

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From: Mimi Robson <mimi....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 6:57:55 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

I will cosponsor. 

Mimi Robson

Region 4 Rep

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 11:47:45

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 7:06:22 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

Greetings. 

Im not sure I like where this is going. 

The actions of a single unruly member should not be used to justify putting in a whole battery of rules that are subject to interpretation and could be used to silence, limit, or prevent board members from communicating to our members using the official platform. 

"It will only be used in extreme situations". 

We were told the same when the dept of homeland security was created after 9/11 twenty five years ago. 

There's cutouts in there to add to the list of items that can trigger actions. 

Id suggest we let the TWO current motions that are up complete before bringing a THIRD over the actions of one member. 

Every LNC I'm familiar with has had issues with people occasionally lighting up other board members on the lists. 

And somehow I don't remember them resorting to making policy manual rules that are 12 paragraphs long to deal with it.

There's already two pending motions. 

It might be wise to consider putting down the pen and breathing a little before saddling the organization with more regulations. 

Thank you. 

In Liberty, 

Alfa Shaw

Region 6

"Relationships begin with Understanding"

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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 14:38:22

To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>
Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

Second.

Sincerely,

Steven Nekhaila

At-Large, LNC

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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 7:45:46 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

No, please don't listen to reason. 

I insist you folks continue going full-on dictator — I love it. 

Be true to yourselves. 

Ua mau ke ea o ka ʻāina i ka pono

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 09:06:22

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 8:58:40 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

This is policy similar to one I advocated for in a previous lnc term. A policy around the email lists is something we have long needed. It's not just a case of one person. 

Susan Hogarth

Region 5 Representative 

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From: Alfa Shaw <alfa...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 15:06:22

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From: Sonja Feintech <sonja.f...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 6:48:17 AM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

This is hilarious. Are you planning to inject parliamentary procedure just wherever it fits your desire? 

You are trying to insert "Call to Order" but no other use of RONR anywhere else?

Y'all are jokes that make themselves. 

Do whatever you want but people are getting tired of it and your skin suits are wearing off. 

Sonja Feintech

LNC Region 1 Alt

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From: Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2026 13:58:40

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From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 5:47:55 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Sonja Feintech <sonja.f...@lp.org>; Susan Hogarth <susan....@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

This seems unnecessary as we already have policy and practice in place for most of these items. 

And another motion fully co-sponsored within 20 minutes with little time for discussion. 

Travis L. Bost

LNC Region 5 Alternate

Travi...@LP.org

LP.org/BostDonor

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From: Sonja Feintech <sonja.f...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2026 02:48:17

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From: Jesse Phillips <jesse.p...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 8:31:58 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

I think it is important to review the existing policies, procedures, and available recourse when making such an addition. If anyone can point out mistakes in what I have retrieved (such as, I had to avoid clauses that were specific to Judicial proceedings) That would be great.

Bylaws Article 7.15 [1]

The National Committee and all of its committees shall conduct all votes and actions in open

session; executive session may only be used for discussion of personnel matters, contractual

negotiations, pending or potential litigation, or political strategy requiring confidentiality.

Policy Manual Article 1 Section 1.02 - Subsection 4 [2]

Any member who is unwilling to commit to maintaining confidentiality regarding any

particular Executive Session is obligated to excuse themselves from the entire Executive

Session and to request that the Secretary note their absence from the Executive Session in the

minutes of the meeting. A participant in an Executive Session may publicly disclose

information discussed in Executive Session, if the same information is publicly available from

other sources, not as the result of a participant’s misconduct, and the participant does not

reveal that it was discussed in Executive Session; or the LNC, and all the participants in the

Executive Session, first consent to its release.

Policy Manual Article 1 Section 1.07 - Subsection 4 list Item 2 [2]

Harassment, such as unwanted physical contact or prying into a person's private life,

derogatory slurs, off-color jokes and innuendos, unwelcome comments about a

person's body or appearance, leering, suggestive/derogatory behavior or objects, and

the like, is prohibited. LNC members and staff members must exercise their own good

judgment to avoid any conduct that may be perceived by others as harassment.

Policy Manual Article 1 Section 1.07 [2]

Any violation of this policy should be brought to the attention of the Chair or the Vice-Chair.

In response to every complaint, the LNC will take prompt and necessary steps to investigate

the matter and will protect the individual’s confidentiality, as much as possible, recognizing

the need to thoroughly investigate all complaints. The LNC will take corrective and

preventative actions where necessary. The LNC will not retaliate against any individual who

in good faith brings a complaint to the attention of the LNC or participates in an investigation

regarding a complaint. Any employee who violates this policy is subject to discipline, up to,

and including discharge. Violations of this policy, while discharging official duties, may result

in disciplinary action against an LNC member.

Roberts Rules Excerpt [3]

'Chair: Mr. J! The chair has repeatedly directed you to refrain from offensive personal

references when speaking in this meeting. Three times the chair ordered you to be seated, and

you have nevertheless attempted to continue speaking.'

Step 3 Serious Disciplinary Action

If the matter is not deemed sufficiently resolved, any member can move to order a penalty, or the

chair can first ask, “What penalty shall be imposed on the member?”

Penalties:

1. Apologize
2. Censured by motion – formal disapproval statement (debatable, majority vote)
3. Removed from hall for remainder of meeting or until apologizes
4. Fined (if authorized in the bylaws)
5. Member rights suspended for a time
6. Expulsion from the organization (requires a two-thirds vote)

During Consideration of Penalty

During consideration of a penalty, the offender must be allowed to briefly present his defense,

before his departure during the consideration which may be ordered by the assembly. Such

motion, which may be assumed by the chair if he thinks it appropriate, is undebatable, is

unamendable, and requires a majority vote.

If the member denies having said anything improper, the words recorded by the secretary can be

read to him and, if necessary, the assembly can decide by vote whether he was heard to say them.

On the demand of a single member—other than the named offender, who is not considered to be

a voting member while his case is pending—the vote on imposing a penalty must be taken by

ballot, unless the penalty proposed is only that the offender be required to leave the hall for all or

part of the remainder of the meeting.

1. https://lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2026-Indexed-LP-Bylaws-and-Convention-Rules-w-2026-JC-Rules-1.pdf
2. https://lp.org/wp-content/uploads/LNC-Policy-Manual-Adopted-thru-2025-04-06-1.pdf
3. https://www.albertaschoolcouncils.ca/public/download/files/228665

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From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2026 11:36 AM

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From: Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 8:49:48 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Jesse Phillips <jesse.p...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

Mr. Bost,

Your comment on the voting thread that there has not been time to debate this motion is confusing to me.

You, yourself, have posted in this debate thread and votes are not due until "11:59 pm Pacific Time on September 19th, 2026."

I can respect your vote but inferring that this is rushed through while there is still 5.5 full days left to debate it is exactly why some of us haven't voted yet. Further, those that have, can be persuaded to change their vote, as I did on a previous ballot. I am waiting to hear the debate from anyone who wishes to share their point of view.

Would you mind explaining why you stated, "As we haven’t had time to properly debate or discuss this motion..." prior to casting your vote, when we are literally in the middle of that debate and discussion and still have quite a lot of time left to have it.

Additionally, all colleagues, the Secretary has asked several times that voting threads be limited to votes and that commentary, debate, or otherwise be had in separate threads. I urge all members of this body to respect that ask.

Respectfully,

Richard Longstreth

At-Large Representative 

Libertarian National Committee

Richard.L...@lp.org

865.321.1130

www.lp.org/donate

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From: Jesse Phillips <jesse.p...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2026 16:31:58

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From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 10:04:38 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>; Jesse Phillips <jesse.p...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; LNC Public <lnc-p...@lp.org>; lnc-public_forward <lnc-publi...@lp.org>

Subject: Re: Seeking Cosponsors for Policy Manual Amendment on Public List

I am still allowed to briefly explain my vote; it was not disruptive and it was not for purposes of debate. If I’m mistaken in that, I’ll gladly take correction. 

That said, I may have overreacted out of frustration.

I’ll elaborate: I commented on this discussion thread after I saw it today and that it had been co-sponsored within twenty minutes of posting, and had five 'yes' votes within a few hours, and nine as of this afternoon. As of this afternoon, it was well on its way to passage with too little time for debate.  But you are correct, there are 5.5 days left on paper and someone will wait until the last minute. 

I have long been of the opinion that our email ballot process is lacking, among other things, in that there is no process for amendment, prejudicing the first motion out the door (midnight motions were a thing last term). “This looks okay" or “not perfect, but serviceable” motions are far more likely to reach a passing threshold, than is getting the same motion voted down to start over, for minor but important fixes. The easiest path…is the easiest. 

Recent success aside (see the federal elections grab motion; my thanks to those that sent that back to the drawing board), this shouldn’t be the norm and we shouldn’t accept it. 

It's quite possible this vote wraps up quickly before my Chairs have even weighed in and it's too late for Region 5 to change its vote. Perhaps it's proverbial PTSD from a contentious term and my comment was an overreaction.

Travis L. Bost

LNC Region 5 Alternate

Travi...@LP.org

LP.org/BostDonor

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From: Richard Longstreth <richard.l...@lp.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2026 4:49 PM