FW: It is alarming to see that no one apparently knows how to calculate a vote

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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2026 8:19:51 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
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Subject: Re: It is alarming to see that no one apparently knows how to calculate a vote

Aloha! 

I really, REALLY want minutes. 

I am absolutely convinced they are being withheld with intention and that collusion exists. 

I am also convinced this is being facilitated by lawyers. 

Mahalo!

Austin Martin

R1

Ua mau ke ea o ka ʻāina i ka pono

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From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2026 4:49:43 AM
To: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Paul Darr <paul...@lp.org>; Bill Redpath <bill.r...@lp.org>; Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>; Jonathan McGee <jonatha...@lp.org>; Dustin Coffell <dustin....@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Matt Johnson <matt.j...@lp.org>; Greg Hertzsch <greg.h...@lp.org>; Doug Knebel <doug....@lp.org>; Mimi Robson <mimi....@lp.org>; Sam Bohler <samuel...@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>; Pat Ford <pat....@lp.org>
Subject: Re: It is alarming to see that no one apparently knows how to calculate a vote

 

Mr. Nekhaila addressed it was not 3/4 but 2/3, and I meant to say 3/4 of 14 is 11.  But for the love of God stop abstaining.  That should be rare and it is nothing but a performative move.  Let your yes be yes and your no be no.

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann

 

On Fri, Apr 3, 2026 at 8:10 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:

First, disclaimer.  The Policy Manual on the website has not been updated for over a year which is another problem in the LNC not fulfilling its bylaws obligations.  Minutes are nearly a year old (yes that is a violation of the Bylaws).

However, judging by the current policy manual, I cannot find that 3/4 threshold.  When a higher threshold is needed the reason for it should be included in the ballot.

However, despite me not finding it, unless it says 3/4 of the entire LNC (which would be ridiculously high), it is 3/4 of thoe present and voting.  Absentions do NOTHING to prevent something from passing and members who keep doing that simply do not understand what they are doing.  They remove themselves from the equation and indirectly help pass a motion by removing denominator.

Again I don't have the most current policy manual  But there were 14 votes.  3/4 of 11 (though I can find that standard nowhere) is 11.

Plus our policy was never the last time of the affiliate but has been Pacific Time since 8 years before I was even around.  Why?  LNC members change and we don't always have a Hawaii member anbd that is reasonable.  I did not make a mistake.  Evan did not make a mistake.  

If you are going to publicly mention me, I wish to publicly respond.  In fact I would request this be posted.  It is frustrating how disrespectfully out of the date the records second of the website is.  Members deserve these records and it is required by the Bylaws.

If any member wishes to give more negotiation time, they need to reconsider.  This motion passed as far as I can see because people do not understand what an abstention means and 11-3 is 3/4 in any event.

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann

 

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From: Evan McMahon <evan.m...@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: It is alarming to see that no one apparently knows how to calculate a vote

I didn't read all of this, but I want to correct that the ballot tracker has meeting votes and not just email ballots.

Evan

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From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com>

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Subject: Re: It is alarming to see that no one apparently knows how to calculate a vote

 

I want to be clear I do not see any conspiracy.  What I do see, and I have not been shy about this is a loss of our institutional memory and a failure of a steadfast commitment to transparency.  It starts with secret discussions on the LNC list and then on to non-published minutes.  Not even public drafts.  The votes at meetings are not on the voting spreadsheet (which they had been for 7 years) so members literally have no idea what was passed at meetings and even if they listened, no way to go back and make sure their recollection is correct.  Alicia Mattson and I worked very hard to raise the bar on institutional record keeping so that members could be informed, and it has all gone away.

This is not about any one person.  It is a culture.  And it started with the shutting down of the LNC list.  Unless something is actually executive session (legal, contracts, the very narrow category of political strategy requiring confidentiality), I encourage each and every one of you to forward those emails to the public list.  I know for a fact things are being kept secret which should not be.  We can quibble about the JC decision.  That is what I mean about culture.  For as much as he is demonized, Nick Sarwark opened up the LNC list.  He didn't fear the members seeing it all (with those narrow exceptions) and respected us enough to keep us informed.  But it is in fact absolute Bylaws violations that the minutes section of the official website last minutes are from June.  The last set *I prepared.*   I am appealing to your respect for member rights to stop having secret discussions.   But I am telling you that the bylaws are being violated by the lack of records:

"The Secretary or a designee shall promptly post notice for each session of the National Committee; any National Committee proposed agendas; and approved minutes of each convention and open National Committee session to a permanent archive section on the Party’s website."

Have there been no approved minutes since June of last year?

This isn't directed at Evan though someone may take it that way.  This is a culture problem.  

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann