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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
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Subject: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Dear All,

After a more careful inspection of the bylaws, I move the following:
 
I call for a Special LNC meeting for Friday, November 21, 2025 at 7:30 pm ET for consideration of a motion to populate the Credentials Committee.

Motion: Appoint Steven Nekhaila, Paul Darr, Evan McMahon, James Wiley, and Andrew Watkins as the five LNC appointments to the Credentials Committee to be replaced by a vote of the LNC during the next in-person LNC meeting scheduled to take place December 6-7, 2025 in Dallas, TX.

Note: The LNC must populate the Credentials Committee 6 months prior to the start of the next regular convention, this would be prior to the December in-person meeting. I want to give LNC members time to review all submitted applications and tap members before voting to populate the 5 LNC appointments, I have asked these 5 LNC members to serve temporarily until new appointments can be made.

Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC

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From: Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Can this not be done by email ballot? 

Andrew Watkins
At Large | Libertarian National Committee


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

I have a conflict and will not be able to attend this meeting. Bill Redpath

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

I’ll be out camping with my son on Friday evening. I should still have enough signal to call in, but hopefully we can establish quorum and take the vote quickly.

Respectfully,

Paul Darr
Vice Chair, Libertarian National Committee


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From: Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

It cannot because the email ballot plus the 48hr period for nominations would have pushed it passed the deadline, unfortunately.

Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

I also have a conflict and will be unable to attend.

In Liberty,
Samuel Bohler


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Since we will be having a meeting, I will add notice to have an update from the New Mexico litigation committee. 

I would like to hear of the progress that has been made since we seated the committee over 6 weeks ago. 

Andrew Chadderdon
Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

This meeting is limited to the motion mentioned in the call of the meeting.

But if you'd like, give me a call to discuss as I would like to know more as well.

Sincerely,
Steveb Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Damn, with "leadership" like this, who need opposing parties?

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Who needs enemies when you have friends like us.


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From: Austin Martin <austin...@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Don't be a hater, Steven. 

"He who hates disguises it with his lips, 
But he lays up deceit in his heart. 

When he speaks graciously, do not believe him, 
For there are seven abominations in his heart. 

Though his hatred covers itself with guile, 
His wickedness will be revealed before the assembly. 

He who digs a pit will fall into it, 
And he who rolls a stone, it will come back on him. 

A lying tongue hates those it crushes, 
And a flattering mouth works ruin."
Proverbs 26:24-28

Austin Martin
R1

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Mr. Chair, 
I went to refer to the policy manual to cite the portion that says 1 LNC member may provide notice for business at the next session.  However, in doing so, it reminded me that there is 5 days' notice required for an LNC meeting. 
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It appears that the deadline in the bylaws has already been missed. There is no need to rush an inappropriately noticed meeting to pretend to meet the deadline. 

If we are already acknowledging that this group isn't going to be the committee, why don't we just skip the charade and appoint the real committee at the December meeting.  

This isn't horseshoes or hand grenades.   Can we have a break from Machiavellian maneuvering? 

Andrew Chadderdon
Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee

Ps. We still need to be getting a report from the Litigation Committee.  Please facilitate this in a timely manner, as the committee was specifically directed to keep region reps informed of progress. 

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Mr. Chadderdon is correct,

According to our rules the LNC delegates authority to the ExCom, as such, I amend it to be an ExCom meeting for Nov 21 at 7:30PM. This should put us into compliance with both the policy manual and the bylaws.

Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC


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From: Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>
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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Point of order, Mr. Chair,

As the bylaws elsewhere make distinctions between actions that can taken by each the LNC and the Excomm, and that the approval of the 5 members is specifically allocated to the LNC, is it in order to delegate such a responsibility?  I think the delegation of authority you are referring would only apply to items not specifically assigned to the LNC in the Bylaws.

This potential appointment is already unquestionably failing to uphold the spirit of the bylaw, that the intended members of the committee have not been appointed with 6 months to perform their work.  Does it serve liberty to rush an ambiguously valid and ill prepared meeting to try to MAYBE meet only the technical obligation of the bylaw?

Andrew Chadderdon

Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

I’ll be removing my name from consideration. I’m not available on a Friday evening anyway, and I’m frankly over this shit. 

Also, why is it so hard to get a legal update? 

Andrew Watkins
At Large | Libertarian National Committee


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Items Required for the Next LNC Meeting
1. Budgets
  • Vote on the LNC Budget
    • Requires an Executive Committee vote beforehand.
  • Vote on the Convention Budget
    • Also requires an Executive Committee vote beforehand.
2. Committee Appointments
  • Credentials Committee
    • Should be appointed or have placeholder appointments on or before November 21st.
  • Platform Committee
    • Must be appointed on or before December 21st.
  • Ballot Access Committee
    • We must accept the current Committee Report.
    • Then appoint new members for the Committee.
  • Awards Committee (future task)
    • Requires three LNC members.
3. Convention Program & Speakers Approval (future task)
Additional Notes
  • I’ve been pushing staff for some time to get the applications sent out for committee appointments. We may finally have received enough applications to fill the Credentials Committee, but it’s been a struggle.
  • The Executive Committee isn’t explicitly established in the Bylaws; instead, it exists under the authority granted by the clause:
    “The National Committee may delegate its authority in any manner it deems necessary.”
    Its specific powers and limitations are defined in the Policy Manual, not the Bylaws.
  • If we weren’t operating in such a chaotic environment, we probably could have filled these committees earlier. But here we are. None of us want to be in this position, but we need to meet the minimum requirements to stay compliant with the Bylaws.
Please help us recruit more volunteers for committee appointments at the upcoming meeting.

Respectfully,

Paul Darr
Vice Chair, Libertarian National Committee


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

  1. Special meetings are limited in scope to the items listed in the call for the meeting. In a regular meeting you can add things to the agenda - that's not the case for a special meeting. This isn't Steven being a jerkface, that's just how special meetings operate.  Anyone is free to add that to the upcoming in-person meeting.

  2. This is a screwy situation because the bylaws mandate that the appointments be made by tomorrow. There's no perfect way out of that - the full LNC cannot be called in that amount of time, but the ExComm can. The ExComm is intended for cases like this, when the full LNC does not have time to act. 

Of course, it would have been ideal to have noticed this further in advance, but we are where we are. I didn't notice it and I didn't see anyone else bring it up weeks ago - griping over that won't change anything.

I'll volunteer for the temporary Credentials Committee just so it can be filled. Feel free to boot me directly off of it in two weeks when the full LNC takes it up.

If anyone has an issue with me serving on the temporary credentials committee, please feel free to toss your name in and I'll step aside. It's not some power-grab so we can rule over credentials for a few days 6 months before the convention - it's just a matter of setting things as correct as possible until our in-person meeting in about two weeks.

Keith Thompson
Region 3 South Rep

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Why are you guys constantly subverting our principles with these hairbrained, half-baked interpretations of the rules? Pardon the expression, but the behavior reminds me of the sophistry from typical Feds and corrupt prosecutors — constantly employing a weaponized double standard of conduct and interpretation of language to achieve your goals, no matter who it hurts. 

Since I got here, the "Factionless majority" has been on a crusade to redefine what constitutes notice, and distorting "special" vs "general meetings — while belligerently flouting all safeguards. Truly, it's the antithesis of what libertarians stand for; the hostile sophistry is a form of fraud. It's what we actual libertarians fight against every day in the corrupt government. 

My question is "why" — who put you up to this radical change? 

Why hide your intentions behind secret discussions, misconduct, and fraud? Why are so many of you so desperate to change all the rules about transparency and fairness? I genuinely want to know why it was so much more important than real business — we have wasted a lot of time dealing with interpretive gimmicks with the rules, and no one is communicating in the open. 

The shadow LNC that actually makes the decisions never communicates in the open — completely stifling discussions and circumventing the whole point of selecting representatives. The abuse of authority is truly stunning, and hard to explain. 

This is exactly the behavior that has led to the festering corruption in America's government today. Why are so many of you like this? 

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Keith, 
I am sure Steven appreciates you trying to run cover for him. 

  1. Your claim is simply wrong.  We do this every month.   Any LNC member can give notice for an item of business.  I have already shared the specific citation from the policy manual (as specific as possible given that we haven't seen policy manual updates get published that have been adopted).  In this case however, Steven's call was invalid because he didn't give the required 5-day notice, so nobody could add business (or even call such an LNC meeting). 
  2. This situation is screwy because the chair failed to do his job and call the meeting in time to meet the bylaws requirement that is clearly expressed. He even indicated he knew of the requirement, in time to call the meeting to meet the requirement, then failed to do so.  He now wants the rest of the body to jump through hoops to try to cover his failures.  The bylaws give the general authority to delegate in Article 7.1.  However, when the bylaws also make a specific assignment, it is interpreted that a general requirement falls to a specific one.  Article 11 specifically assigns the LNC to appoint the 5 members, with no exemption.
Mr Chair, please give a prompt ruling on my point of order. 

I would also point out, this is further "screwy" because there appears to be ongoing systematic obstruction to hearing from the Litigation committee that was appointed nearly 7 weeks ago and that has ignored all inquiries for updates, despite being directed by the LNC to keep board members in the loop.  

This undermines the officers' claims from the Oct 5 meeting that they wanted to see these matters progress and the Litigation committee was just a means to make sure we were adequately prepared. 

I would ask Mr. Darr and any other officers why this matter wasn't included in the list of items he just presented to be addressed in the next meeting, even though it was in active discussion in the thread that you wrote your list for.  I would further ask why seemingly it isn't any priority at all, though you all seemed to claim to be in support when the committee was initiated... 


Andrew Chadderdon
Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Mr. Chadderdon,

If my list came across as comprehensive, that was my mistake. It was simply a list of items where I’ve either had to personally step in to move things forward or where I was concerned the subject wasn’t receiving enough attention. There are several other items that need to be reported on, including the Litigation Committee, that I did not include.

I was trusting that you would sound the alarm if the Litigation Committee report wasn’t provided by the time we reached that point on the agenda. Thank you for continuing to stay on top of that committee; it’s one less thing I have to personally chase down to ensure it gets done.

Respectfully,

Paul Darr
Vice Chair, Libertarian National Committee


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

There have been multiple inquiries into the status since the beginning of November formally, that you have been copied on, which have received not even an acknowledgement, let alone a reply. 

Andrew Chadderdon
Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Mr. Chadderdon,

1.  In response to your assertion that "the bylaws elsewhere make distinctions between actions that can taken [sic] by each the LNC and the Excomm", I have reviewed the Bylaws and found no mention of the Executive Committee.  A Ctrl-F search of the Bylaws for the term "executive" yields only four results: Article 6.3 designates the Chair as "the chief executive officer"; Article 6.4 provides that the Vice Chair holds "such executive powers as the Chair shall delegate"; and Article 7.15 of the Bylaws, as well as Rule 7.4 of the Judicial Committee Rules of Appellate Procedure, refer to executive sessions. 

2.  As you correctly noted, Article 7.1 of the Bylaws authorizes the National Committee (LNC) to delegate its authority in any manner it deems necessary.  The LNC has exercised this authority explicitly within the Policy Manual.  Specifically, Section 1.01.3 of the Policy Manual empowers the Executive Committee to "exercise all powers of the LNC between LNC meetings, when urgency demands a more immediate time frame than when the LNC can next meet[.]"  Compliance with the Bylaws in this matter constitutes such an urgent matter — I assume you would agree, unless of course it is now your opinion that compliance with the bylaws is no longer an urgent matter — given that the deadline for compliance, November 21, would preclude calling a meeting of the full LNC with the required 5 days' notice per Section 1.02.7 (5) of the Policy Manual.  It is unclear whether you are citing RONR 56:68 (3) or RONR 56:68 (4) with your assertion that "when the bylaws also make a specific assignment, it is interpreted that a general requirement falls to a specific one".  Regardless, RONR 56:68 (1) requires that there be an ambiguity in the Bylaws before the principles of interpretation in RONR 56:68 can be applied.  There is no ambiguity here.  In brief,

I.  Article 7.1 states "The National Committee may delegate its authority in any manner it deems necessary."
II. Policy Manual Section 1.01.3 states "The Executive Committee shall exercise all powers of the LNC between LNC meetings, when urgency demands a more immediate time frame than when the LNC can next meet[.]"
III.  Article 11.4a states "4. The Credentials Committee, composed of 10 members, shall be selected as follows.
                                           a. Five members chosen by the National Committee no later than six months before a regular convention."
IV.  There is insufficient time for the full LNC to comply with Article 11.4a and also comply with the five day notice requirement for LNC meetings.

Therefore, in this specific instance, the Executive Committee can exercise the powers of the LNC to choose the five members of the Credentials Committee mentioned in Article 11.4a. 

For reference, the full text of Article 7.1 of the Bylaws states:

"The National Committee shall have control and management of all the affairs, properties and funds of the Party consistent with these bylaws. The Libertarian National Committee shall establish and oversee an organizational structure to implement the purposes of the Party as stated in Article 2. The National Committee shall adopt rules of procedure for the conduct of its meetings and the carrying out of its duties and responsibilities. The National Committee may delegate its authority in any manner it deems necessary." [Emphasis Added]

For further reference, the full text of Section 1.01.3 of the Policy Manual states:

"The Executive Committee shall exercise all powers of the LNC between LNC meetings, when urgency demands a more immediate time frame than when the LNC can next meet, except for amendment of the LNC policy manual or amendment of the budget beyond the limits specified elsewhere in this policy manual. It shall further make decisions specifically delegated in this Policy Manual. Notwithstanding, the LNC reserves the right to exercise its authority through electronic mail ballots and to rescind decisions of the Executive Committee." [Emphasis Added]

3. The only Bylaw specific to the selection of the Credentials Committee is Article 11.4, the full text of which states:

"4. The Credentials Committee, composed of 10 members, shall be selected as follows.
    a. Five members chosen by the National Committee no later than six months before a regular convention.
    b. One member by each of the five affiliate parties having the largest sustaining memberships as determined for convention delegate allocations at the most recent regular convention. These shall be selected by each of the affiliate parties no later than three months prior to the regular convention." [Emphasis Added]

In contrast to your assertion that "This potential appointment is already unquestionably failing to uphold the spirit of the bylaw, that the intended members of the committee have not been appointed with 6 months to perform their work", it should be noted that if there were an implicit expectation that the Credentials Committee should have six months to perform their work, the Bylaws would not contain an explicit provision allowing half of the committee to be selected as late as three months prior to the convention. 

Given the above points, it is my opinion that the point of order should not be well-taken.

Very Respectfully,

Jonathan McGee
Region 2 Representative, Libertarian National Committee


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Would any member of the executive committee give notice for a report from the litigation committee? 

Andrew Chadderdon
Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

I do hereby notice such a thing

Andrew Watkins
At Large | Libertarian National Committee


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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Everything is fake and ghey. 

Meredith Hays
Region 4 Rep, Libertarian National Committee
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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

I see that it is now an Executive Committee meeting, however I will note that I also have conflicts this evening. 

Travis L. Bost
LNC At-Large
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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Mr. Chadderdon, 

I am not in charge of the litigation committee, there are no updates I can personally provide you with. 

We cannot add any items to today's agenda, however, I don't mind staying on the call longer if board members want to discuss the issue.

Sincerely,
Steven Nekhaila
Chairman, LNC

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Subject: Re: Special Meeting Nov 21 @ 7:30PM EST

Mr. Chair,
Are you ever going to rule on my point of order?

While Mr. McGee is correct that the LNC can delegate power, that is indeed a general rule about delegation.
As Rule 56:68 states, "3) A general statement or rule is always of less authority than a specific statement or rule and yields to it."

Article 7.1 enumerates many general authorities of the LNC, among them to delegate as they see fit. However, Article 11 puts the specific requirement on the LNC to appoint those individuals. The requirement in Article 11 takes precedence.

Further, as I have seen pointed out by others, you cite that the LNC can delegate authority. However, the LNC has not done so. The general rule that the LNC can delegate to the EC in urgent situations does not override the bylaws’ requirement for the LNC to make these appointments, and even if it could, I don’t believe that the Chair’s incompetence is reasonable justification for an emergency violation of the bylaws.

Lastly, if the bylaws only intended for the committee to have 3 months to work, then they wouldn’t have included the requirement for this half of the committee to be appointed by the LNC. However, the proposed illegitimate action wouldn’t even solve that issue, as the real committee won’t even be getting seated, so this half of the committee won’t get seated regardless, and it still won’t be able to start its work.

This matter is out of order, and the Chair has already made it impossible to be in compliance with the bylaws in any meaningful way, so there is no justification to continue with tonight’s frivolous and out-of-order meeting (while leadership continues to obstruct the required legal support to our rightful New Mexico affiliate, none the less).

Andrew Chadderdon
Region 1 Rep | Libertarian National Committee

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