FW: [LNC-Business] Final Trial Registration Reminder

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From: Adrian Malagon <adrian....@lp.org>
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 8:35:54 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: LNC Business <lnc-bu...@lp.org>; businesslist-forward <businessli...@lp.org>
Subject: [LNC-Business] Final Trial Registration Reminder

Greetings All,

This is the final time the registration link for the trial will be sent out for those of you who are interested in joining, plan accordingly. 

Please note that that trial will not be held in open session. From the time the Chair calls the meeting to order (exactly 5:00 p.m., EST assuming we have quorum) we will be in open session for about 5-10 minutes (if that) for the roll call and motions which will take us into Executive Session. Once the motion passes, the general public will be moved into the Zoom Waiting Room where they will stay for the duration of the trial. There will be no opportunity for public comment. There will be no Breakout Room. 

The trial, which again will be held entirely in Executive Session, is expected to last between 4.5-5.0 hours. Once we rise out of Executive Session, I will admit any members of the public still in the Waiting Room into open session for any motions and votes which take place.

You are invited to a Zoom meeting. 

When: Nov 9, 2024 05:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) 

Register in advance for this meeting:

https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZ0kcu2qqTsiGN2p93yy6Ljuhp8Xo4mWBIIR 

After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.

Adrian F Malagon

Interim Secretary, Libertarian National Committee

Region 4 Alt, Libertarian National Committee

lp.org | adrian....@lp.org

Chair, Libertarian Party of California

ca.lp.org | ch...@ca.lp.org

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From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2024 3:53:10 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: carynannharlos <carynan...@gmail.com>; Chair <ch...@lp.org>; Mark Rutherford <mark.ru...@lp.org>; LP Treasurer <trea...@lp.org>; LP Secretary <secr...@lp.org>; Adam Haman <adam....@lp.org>; Roman Garcia <roman....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Nick Shawhan <nick.s...@lp.org>; Jonathan McGee <jonatha...@lp.org>; Matt Johnson <matt.j...@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Paul Darr <paul...@lp.org>; Greg Hertzsch <greg.h...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Adrian Malagon <adrian....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Pat Ford <pat....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Kathy Yeniscavich <kathy.ye...@lp.org>; Robert Vinson <robert...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Paul Bracco <paul....@lp.org>
Cc: businesslist-forward <businessli...@lp.org>; chuck <ch...@moulton.org>
Subject: Re: FW: [LNC-Business] Final Trial Registration Reminder

Executive session may only be used in four instances:

1. Personnel matters - Caryn Ann is not a staff member.
2. Contractual negotiations - that is not applicable to this situation.
3. Litigation - this is the closest item I can see, but as none of the charges deal with Caryn Ann's lawsuit, so this is not germane to the trial.
4. Political strategy requiring confidentiality - this is also not applicable.

I can see a situation where we use executive session as a courtesy for the accused, especially since she was opposed to releasing the full IC report. However, given that Caryn Ann and her attorney have both expressed they wish to conduct the trial in open session, this also does not apply.

There has been an alarming trend of secrecy as of late and this is no exception. I don't want to endure a longer than necessary meeting either, but that's no reason to quash public comment and force this into a secret session where members will be left to wonder what took place.

If there are particular things that need to be discussed in executive session, it may be best to dip in and out as needed so only those items are held in secret.

It would be best for the organization to openly conduct as much as possible, which includes allowing for public comment and a waiting room as we talk about any particular items that require executive session.

In Liberty, 

Keith Thompson

Region 3 Alternate

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From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 2:42 PM
To: Chair <ch...@lp.org>; Mark Rutherford <mark.ru...@lp.org>; LP Treasurer <trea...@lp.org>; LP Secretary <secr...@lp.org>; Adam Haman <adam....@lp.org>; Roman Garcia <roman....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Nick Shawhan <nick.s...@lp.org>; Jonathan McGee <jonatha...@lp.org>; Matt Johnson <matt.j...@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Paul Darr <paul...@lp.org>; Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; Greg Hertzsch <greg.h...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Adrian Malagon <adrian....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Pat Ford <pat....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Kathy Yeniscavich <kathy.ye...@lp.org>; Robert Vinson <robert...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Paul Bracco <paul....@lp.org>
Subject: Fwd: FW: [LNC-Business] Final Trial Registration Reminder

 

Forwarding to entire list.

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann

 

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From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: FW: [LNC-Business] Final Trial Registration Reminder
To: businesslist-forward <businessli...@lp.org>, Chuck Moulton <ch...@moulton.org>
Cc: LNC Business List (Public) Google Group <lnc-business...@googlegroups.com>

My attorney has the right to make motions relating to the conduct of the trial (due process, remember?) and one of those will be for the trial to be in open session.  That is not the only motion.  All those motions are permitted and MUST be held in open session.

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann

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From: Travis Bost <travi...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2024 7:28:15 PM (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik
To: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>; carynannharlos <carynan...@gmail.com>; Chair <ch...@lp.org>; Mark Rutherford <mark.ru...@lp.org>; LP Treasurer <trea...@lp.org>; LP Secretary <secr...@lp.org>; Adam Haman <adam....@lp.org>; Roman Garcia <roman....@lp.org>; Andrew Chadderdon <andrew.c...@lp.org>; Nick Shawhan <nick.s...@lp.org>; Jonathan McGee <jonatha...@lp.org>; Matt Johnson <matt.j...@lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin...@lp.org>; Paul Darr <paul...@lp.org>; Greg Hertzsch <greg.h...@lp.org>; Meredith Hays <meredi...@lp.org>; Adrian Malagon <adrian....@lp.org>; Otto Dassing <otto.d...@lp.org>; Pat Ford <pat....@lp.org>; Ben Weir <ben....@lp.org>; Steven Nekhaila <steven....@lp.org>; Kathy Yeniscavich <kathy.ye...@lp.org>; Robert Vinson <robert...@lp.org>; Andrew Watkins <andrew....@lp.org>; Paul Bracco <paul....@lp.org>

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Subject: Re: [LNC-Business] Final Trial Registration Reminder

Our policy manual dictates that trials are to be conducted in accordance with the parliamentary authority, which in this case is RONR. 

9:24 "In any society, certain matters relating to discipline (61, 63), such as trials, must be handled only in executive session."

63:2 and 63:3 cover the trial under consideration here and reiterate the need for confidentiality. 

Travis L. Bost

LNC At-Large

Travi...@LP.org

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From: Keith Thompson <keith.t...@lp.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2024 10:53:10 AM