Hi,
Below is a document detailing changes we'd like to make to Clang/LLVM to improve the usability of the target options for ARM and AArch64.
To keep things simple the proposed changes are listed at the start and you can find the supporting examples at the end of the document.
I look forward to your feedback.
ARM and AArch64:
- Make the TargetParser the single source for extension names, removing the AsmParser tables.
- Reject unknown extension names with a diagnostic that includes a list of valid extensions for that architecture/CPU.
- Reject invalid combinations of architecture/CPU and extensions with an error diagnostic.
- Add independent subtarget features for each extension so that v8.x+1-a extensions can be used individually with earlier v8.x-a architectures where allowed.
- Emit a warning when a mandatory feature of the base architecture is enabled with '+extension', or disabled with '+noextension'. (and ignore the option)
To do this, we would need to move TargetParser to break the cyclic dependency of LLVMSupport -> llvm-tblgen -> LLVMSupport. There are 2 options for this:
1. create a new LLVMTargetParser library that contains all parsers for architectures that use it.
2. put the TargetParser for each backend in the library group for that backend. This requires one of:
* Relaxing the requirement that target parsers must be built even if the backend is not.
* Modifying the CMake scripts to build the target parsers even if the backend is not being built.
"Negative" Backend Features
===========================
There are a couple of features in ARM which remove capabilities rather than adding them. These are 'd16' (removes the top 16 D registers) and 'fp-only-sp' (removes double precision).
It would simplify the implementation if those were replaced with positive options. As in one that adds the top 16 D registers and one that enables double precision operations.
This is a relatively simple change to LLVM but it will effect a large number of tests and would be a breaking change for users of LLVM as a library.
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Hi David,
This is *awesome*. Thanks for such a detailed analysis!
> In this RFC we propose changes to ARM and AArch64 target selection. With the top level goals to:
> - validate that given options make sense within architectural restrictions
> - make option discovery and documentation easier
> - unify the list of extensions that command lines and asm directives use
> - bring the options closer to GCC's where appropriate
One additional goal we had in the past, when we first wrote the
TargetParser was to use the *existing* target description table-gen
files to generate the parser tables.
This means new changes to cores, sub-arches, and fixes to existing
ones will *automatically* be translated to command line and assembly
parsing.
> Proposed solution
> ------------------
>
> ARM and AArch64:
> - Make the TargetParser the single source for extension names, removing the AsmParser tables.
> - Reject unknown extension names with a diagnostic that includes a list of valid extensions for that architecture/CPU.
> - Reject invalid combinations of architecture/CPU and extensions with an error diagnostic.
> - Add independent subtarget features for each extension so that v8.x+1-a extensions can be used individually with earlier v8.x-a architectures where allowed.
SGTM.
> - Emit a warning when a mandatory feature of the base architecture is enabled with '+extension', or disabled with '+noextension'. (and ignore the option)
> - Errors caused by the solution above should be able to be downgraded to warnings with the usual -W* options. This applies only to cases where there is a reasonable interpretation of the options chosen.
I'd be more comfortable if these weren't enabled by default, but were
present in -Wall.
Writing generic and precise build systems is a nightmare, which is the
biggest reason why compilers generally ignore nonsense options
silently.
> ARM:
> - Allow all possible ARM extensions in the '.arch_extension' directive, without the '+' syntax
> (allow them to be recognised, they could still be rejected for compatibility).
> - Reject invalid mfpu and march/mcpu combinations with an error diagnostic.
> - Reject invalid arch/cpu and extension combinations with an error diagnostic.
SGTM.
> - Add an 'auto' value for -mfpu and make it the default. Meaning that the FPU is implied by mcpu/march. If mfpu is not auto, it should override other options and a warning should be emitted.
I'd have assumed -mfpu is already "auto" by default. Or is this to
just override a previous option?
ex: clang -mcpu cortex-a8 -mfpu vfp4 -mfpu auto -> defaults back to VFP3.
> Optional features
> -----------------
>
> AArch64:
> - add the '.arch_extension' directive, with the same behaviour as ARM (no '+', one extension per directive). This brings Clang in line with GCC which has this directive for both architectures. Clang does however allow you to achieve the same thing by using '+' with '.arch'.
>
> ARM:
> - Allow '+' in '.arch' and '.cpu'. GCC does not allow this, but it would make ARM/AArch64 more consistent within Clang.
I see no reason to be inconsistent with GNU tools here. We can have
more, but we should not have less or different behaviour.
> Use of Table-gen
> ================
>
> We think the benefits outweigh the disadvantages in this case.
Agreed!
> To do this, we would need to move TargetParser to break the cyclic dependency of LLVMSupport -> llvm-tblgen -> LLVMSupport. There are 2 options for this:
> 1. create a new LLVMTargetParser library that contains all parsers for architectures that use it.
> 2. put the TargetParser for each backend in the library group for that backend. This requires one of:
> * Relaxing the requirement that target parsers must be built even if the backend is not.
> * Modifying the CMake scripts to build the target parsers even if the backend is not being built.
>
> Option 1 is simpler but option 2 would allow us to make use of the existing tablegen files in the backends so it is preferred.
Option 1 makes everyone pay the cost and can be a lot harder to make
it flexible and "zero-cost". This is the reason why it was changed
from a class-based model to a static function / table model.
I had a go at option 2 years ago and it works. You need to fiddle a
bit with the CMake file in lib/Targets (to prepare the inc files even
if targets aren't being built, because Clang needs to use it for all
supported targets regardless).
It wasn't upstreamed because the hard part is to re-use the existing
table-gen files for a new back-end, which would generate the tables.
Not so much writing the new back-end, but making sure the data we need
isn't redundant or contradictory (which it was both) across all
table-gen files. We also had to add new options to the targets (define
new classes, etc) which were solely used by the parser, so were harder
to justify on its own and needed a much more extensive validation than
we had bandwidth for.
> Consider this AArch64 march:
> -march=armv8.4-a+crypto+nosha2
>
> The base arch is armv8.4-a, the crypto extension turns on AES/SHA2/SHA3/SM4. The nosha2 disables SHA2/SHA3 (since SHA3 is dependant on SHA2). Each of these features has an ACLE feature test macro, so Clang needs to know that nosha2 also disables SHA3.
Is this complex logic done by GCC's front-end as well?
It would be pretty cool to have it smart like that, but we also have
to be careful to have a rock solid model before improving on GCC's
(potentially broken) functionality, and hopefully someone talking to
them on the side.
The amount of noise that comes every time we change the command line
options interpretation is non-trivial. :)
> Errors:
> - unknown extension in an assembly directive (currently fails silently)
IIRC, this is by design.
Imagine a macro that defines .cpu in an asm file to multiple things,
and the rest of the file has .fpu all over the place, with support for
all .cpu options, but with the guarantee that those functions will
only be compiled/executed if the .cpu is correct.
This may sound weird, but some libraries (ex. unwind) actually depend
on weird behaviour like that.
> - extension incompatible with base arch, message shows the base arch it requires.
> - extension requires another which is disabled later, message shows which one is required.
> - extension requires another which is not enabled, message shows requirements.
> - ARM mfpu option is not 'auto' and is incompatible with the base arch, message shows list of valid FPUs.
Define "incompatible". Older Arm cores could have new features that
wasn't even define in its own standard because manufacturers upgraded
the extra but not the core.
I'm happy to have errors for things that are impossible, like "ARMv5
AArch64" or enabling and disabling intersecting groups that cannot be
represented in the compiler.
I'm happy to have warnings, possibly only under -Wall, for nonsense
options like "ARMv5 VFP4" or "ARMv8A IWMMX".
> Warnings:
> - ARM mfpu option is not auto and another option implies a different FPU than the mfpu value. The mfpu value will be used, and the message will show what was overridden.
This is nice.
> - mandatory feature of the base arch is enabled with '+' (option is redundant so is ignored)
Maybe under -Wall?
> - mandatory feature of a base arch is disabled with '+no<feature>' (option makes no sense so the extension remains enabled)
Arm is a flexible architecture, and build systems are crazy. This will
likely confuse a lot of builds in the wild.
I'd avoid it unless in -Wall.
> .arch_extension Directive
> =========================
>
> We can handle this in a few of ways:
> - Remove .arch_extension in favour of .arch. This conflicts with the option above to add it to AArch64 to bring us in line with GCC, and will break a lot of code written for older versions of Clang.
.arch_extension was implemented because GCC does it. I'm not sure what
you mean by that, but I'm not happy with removing it, as it will break
scores of assembly files out there.
> - Track the current base target, as implied by the command line or the last .arch/.cpu directive. This makes the directives as similar to the command lines as they can be without breaking backwards compatibility.
This makes sense, but will likely require changes in a lot of existing
low-level assembly files, which choose a generic .cpu and vary
.fpu/.arch_extension to implement independent functionality (like
unwinders).
If you read the GNU manuals, the assembly directives is more to allow
the assembler to relax checks than enforce them more.
I personally like strong checks, but the problems we have with inline
assembly will come crashing in assembly files if we start tightening
the checks there, too.
It's a worthy long goal, but it's a loooong goal and you don't want
your current TargetParser work to depend on that.
> $ ./clang --target=arm-arm-none-eabi -march=armv7-m -mfpu=neon-fp16 -c /tmp/test.c -o /tmp/test.o
> (should be invalid but is allowed)
>
> $ ./arm-eabi-gcc -march=armv7-m -mfpu=neon-fp16 -c /tmp/test.c -o /tmp/test.o
> (same example given for Clang above, should be invalid)
If both are allowed, I'd recommend you not to change it in this
current pass. Let's get the parser fixed before changing overall
behaviour.
> Dependencies within extensions are not checked. For example crypto requires simd, but it can be disabled in the same march option.
>
> $ ./clang --target=aarch64-arm-none-eabi -march=armv8-a+crypto+nosimd -c /tmp/test.c -o /tmp/test.o
>
> Extensions are rejected if not recognised but not checked for compatibility. Hence the Clang crypto/simd example above is allowed with GCC too.
>
> $ ./aarch64-elf-gcc -march=armv8-a+crypto+nosimd -c /tmp/test.c -o /tmp/test.o
> (should not be allowed)
This is unlikely to change, let alone in the time frame of your work.
I strongly recommend that you do not change *any* user-facing
behaviour until the underlying parser changes are done and released
upstream.
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cheers,
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Not a lot to add over what Eli and Renato have already mentioned.
> 'auto' FPU value (Renato)
> ================
>
> >> I'd have assumed -mfpu is already "auto" by default. Or is this to
> >> just override a previous option?
> >>
> >> ex: clang -mcpu cortex-a8 -mfpu vfp4 -mfpu auto -> defaults back to VFP3.
>
> I don't see any reference to this in the code or the docs, and clang something similair:
> ./clang --target=arm-arm-none-eabi -mcpu=cortex-a8 -mfpu=vfp4 -mfpu=auto -c /tmp/test.c
> clang-8: error: the clang compiler does not support '-mfpu=auto'
>
> Maybe I'm missing something.
>
I think what Renato was meaning was that some CPUs already imply an
FPU and hence -mfpu is already "kind of" auto. For example
-mcpu=cortex-m4 implies a FPU.
ARM_CPU_NAME("cortex-m4", ARMV7EM, FK_FPV4_SP_D16, true, ARM::AEK_NONE)
I think the example "clang -mcpu cortex-a8 -mfpu vfp4 -mfpu auto ->
defaults back to VFP3." was a theoretical what if -mfpu=auto came
after an explicit -mpfu=vfp4, would this result in the default fpu
thus overriding the previous -mfpu=vfp4
> >> Define "incompatible". Older Arm cores could have new features that
> wasn't even define in its own standard because manufacturers upgraded
> the extra but not the core.
>
> Good point, I suppose "incompatible" in the way I wrote it means "not listed as an off the shelf config". Which you're right, doesn't cover everything. So yes, agreed on defaulting to warnings behind -Wall.
>
I think that post-cortex CPUs are far more locked down in terms of
configurations. If you have an FPU it will always be of the same type.
I agree with Renato that the outside world is considerably messier
than we'd like though. For example compiler-rt builtins for Cortex-m4
currently cheats and specifies a full double precision FPU as there
are some functions (never called and hence never included in a M4
binary but present in the archive) that use double precision floating
point. In compiler-rt's case I think that we should fix that but it
illustrates that there may be other projects that would be affected if
we are too strict.
Looking forward to seeing the results of the work.
Peter
Hi Manoj,
Not too late at all, we have not got to that point of the work yet.
Are there examples of this kind of build setup that are available publicly? I think I understand the problem but it'd help to see one in action. To see if there are any other Arm extensions that are already being added like this and whether those systems support GCC and how.
Thanks,
David Spickett.
Hi Manoj,
Not too late at all, we have not got to that point of the work yet.
Are there examples of this kind of build setup that are available publicly? I think I understand the problem but it'd help to see one in action. To see if there are any other Arm extensions that are already being added like this and whether those systems support GCC and how.
Hi Manoj,
I tried a few other options myself:
* function 'target' attribute - the list of extensions this supports isn't complete and it doesn't enable the ACLE macros needed for intrinsics
* manually defining ACLE macros - this allows intrinsics and is additive but assumes that you're not relying on codegen to emit instructions. I don't think it helps the bug linked from the GN source either. (https://crbug.com/934016)
So what you have is the best we can do right now.
Looking forward the problem I have with a '-mcrypto' is two fold:
* What about other optional extensions? We'd need to add one for each, or at least every one people ask for and ideally get that into GCC too.
* crypto specifically can mean different things depending on the base architecture. From Clang's point of view that's fine as it just adds a target feature 'crypto'. However later we might want to allow people to select which set of crypto extensions is added and we hit the same issue. (maybe you'd go with -mcrypto as an 'auto' and -mcrypto8.4-a etc, which is also ugly)
The other option would be to allow -march without a base architecture. E.g.
-march=armv8-a+crc -march=+crypto
Or have them combine into some common set, which breaks existing behaviour:
-march=armv8-a+crc -march=armv8.4-a+dsp -> -march=amv8-a+dsp+crc
Which gets into a lot of issues around how you choose the set of features. Smallest subset to target the minimal core, or largest to allow CPU detection code to compile?
So allowing march=+<ext> is the one that won't break existing builds but would be Clang only for now. I don't know enough to say whether the other Architectures would be able to support that.
My instinct is that this is something the build system needs to handle since it presumably has to support GCC as well. I understand that still leaves you specifying a base architecture per file, when you'd rather pull that from the main march.
(plus you're putting arch specific special cases in your build config, which isn't great either)
>>> As a result, one of the "-march" options either specified by Chrome OS or crc32c build has to lose the race as there was no other way to specify crc+crypto additively.
Is this not deterministic? I would assume either Chrome OS always wins or crc32c always wins. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Thanks,
David Spickett.
Hi Manoj,
I tried a few other options myself:
* function 'target' attribute - the list of extensions this supports isn't complete and it doesn't enable the ACLE macros needed for intrinsics
* manually defining ACLE macros - this allows intrinsics and is additive but assumes that you're not relying on codegen to emit instructions. I don't think it helps the bug linked from the GN source either. (https://crbug.com/934016)
So what you have is the best we can do right now.
Looking forward the problem I have with a '-mcrypto' is two fold:
* What about other optional extensions? We'd need to add one for each, or at least every one people ask for and ideally get that into GCC too.
* crypto specifically can mean different things depending on the base architecture. From Clang's point of view that's fine as it just adds a target feature 'crypto'. However later we might want to allow people to select which set of crypto extensions is added and we hit the same issue. (maybe you'd go with -mcrypto as an 'auto' and -mcrypto8.4-a etc, which is also ugly)
The other option would be to allow -march without a base architecture. E.g.
-march=armv8-a+crc -march=+crypto
Or have them combine into some common set, which breaks existing behaviour:
-march=armv8-a+crc -march=armv8.4-a+dsp -> -march=amv8-a+dsp+crc
Which gets into a lot of issues around how you choose the set of features. Smallest subset to target the minimal core, or largest to allow CPU detection code to compile?
So allowing march=+<ext> is the one that won't break existing builds but would be Clang only for now. I don't know enough to say whether the other Architectures would be able to support that.
My instinct is that this is something the build system needs to handle since it presumably has to support GCC as well. I understand that still leaves you specifying a base architecture per file, when you'd rather pull that from the main march.
(plus you're putting arch specific special cases in your build config, which isn't great either)
>>> As a result, one of the "-march" options either specified by Chrome OS or crc32c build has to lose the race as there was no other way to specify crc+crypto additively.
Is this not deterministic? I would assume either Chrome OS always wins or crc32c always wins. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Just a thought; would it be possible to use an assembly directive like
".arch armv8-a+crypto" in the source files that need the crypto
extenstions, these would override the command line options?
Peter
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