[LLVMdev] Upcoming Changes/Additions to Scoped-NoAlias metadata

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Hal Finkel

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Nov 13, 2014, 7:47:38 PM11/13/14
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Hi everyone,

As many of you might know, LLVM now has scoped noalias metadata (http://llvm.org/docs/LangRef.html#noalias-and-alias-scope-metadata) -- it allows us to preserve noalias function argument attributes when inlining, in addition to allowing frontends to add otherwise non-deducible aliasing properties to memory accesses. This currently works well, but needs a change and an intrinsic, as I'll explain below.

First, the problem: Currently, ScopedNoAliasAA.cpp is a little bit too much like TypeBasedAliasAnalysis.cpp in that when the metadata is used to return an aliasing result, the Size passed in the AliasAnalysis::Location object is ignored. This is not a problem if the Size is equal to (or less than) the size of the access with which the metadata was originally associated, but if the Size is larger than that associated with the original access, the result might not be correct. Fixing this is not hard for regular accesses (we can also store the size of the original access), although is harder for arbitrary function calls.

Now you might think that constructing an AliasAnalysis::Location object with a size larger than the original is uncommon, and in some sense it is, but this is exactly what the loop vectorizer does when partitioning memory accesses in a loop into potential aliasing sets. The loop vectorizer partitions a loop's memory accesses by taking the access's natural Location object, and setting the size to UnknownSize (the largest representable size) and querying using that infinite-size Location. The logic is that if two access don't alias with both sizes set to infinity, then they must always come from disjoint sets of underlying objects, and because the vectorizer only considers access pointers that are linear recurrences, implies that the accesses don't alias both within and across loop iterations.

So how does this work now? Consider this function:

void foo(float * restrict a, float * restrict b) {
for (int i = 0; i < 1600; ++i)
a[i] = b[i] + 1;
}
(note that restrict at the C level becomes a noalias function argument attribute at the IR level)

With the scoped noalias metadata, the aliasing information from the 'a' and 'b' function arguments is preserved such that 'a[i]' and 'b[i]' are tagged as not aliasing. There is nothing wrong with this, and in fact, when the loop vectorizer uses its infinite-sized queries on 'a[i]' and 'b[i]', and that returns NoAlias, that result is also not wrong. It is not wrong, however, because the noalias function argument attributes, logically associated with the function entry block, dominate the loop ('a[i]' is based on 'a' for all 'i', and similarly for 'b[i]').

Now here's the problematic case:

void inner(float * restrict a, float * restrict b) {
*a = *b + 1;
}
void foo(float * a, float * b) {
for (int i = 0; i < 1600; ++i)
inner(a+i, b+i);
}

The problem here is that the noalias function argument attributes on 'inner', when inlined into the loop body, do not dominate the loop; they apply to pointers within each loop iteration, not across loop iterations. But because the generated noalias metadata is essentially the same as in the previous case, and as noted ScopedNoAliasAA.cpp ignores the Location's Size, the loop vectorizer's infinite-sized alias queries return NoAlias as in the previous case. This is a bug. Making ScopedNoAliasAA.cpp check the size of the original access (as it should) would fix this problem, but it will also prevent ScopedNoAliasAA.cpp from returning NoAlias for the first case were we'd like it to do so.

So to summarize, scoped-noalias metadata does not preserve enough dominance information to truly capture the full semantics of the noalias function argument attributes.

After discussing this with Chandler offline last week, here's the proposed solution: instead of having both !alias.scope and !noalias metadata, we'll have only !alias.scope metadata and an intrinsic: i8* @llvm.noalias(i8* ptr, !metadata !?) where the metadata argument corresponds to a list of !alias.scopes. The idea being that the pointer returned by this intrinsic, and all pointers derived from it, are assumed not to alias with memory accesses tagged with any of the associated !alias.scope metadata entries. This intrinsic needs to carry control dependencies (it cannot be hoisted out of a loop, for example) -- in this sense it is very much like @llvm.assume. And like @llvm.assume, we'll need to add logic to various passes to ignore it as appropriate so that it does not block optimizations unnecessarily. I was hoping this avoid this part of the design space, but I don't see any way around it -- only some non-hoistable instruction can model a control dependence.

With this in place, it will be possible to build a loop-aware AA interface capable of answering questions like: Does location A in some loop iteration alias with location B in any iteration (which is really what the vectorizer wants to know). This interface can check whether the @llvm.noalias dominates the loop while answering this query.

On the bright side, the metadata will be simpler (or at least less verbose) than the current design.

If anyone has suggestions on an alternative design, please share! :-) Regardless, the current design needs to change: Just fixing it to check the size of the location will make it non-useful for the loop vectorizer and otherwise cripple it for mod-ref queries against arbitrary function calls.

Thanks again,
Hal

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Chandler Carruth

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Nov 13, 2014, 8:06:04 PM11/13/14
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Hal Finkel <hfi...@anl.gov> wrote:
After discussing this with Chandler offline last week, here's the proposed solution: instead of having both !alias.scope and !noalias metadata, we'll have only !alias.scope metadata and an intrinsic: i8* @llvm.noalias(i8* ptr, !metadata !?) where the metadata argument corresponds to a list of !alias.scopes. The idea being that the pointer returned by this intrinsic, and all pointers derived from it, are assumed not to alias with memory accesses tagged with any of the associated !alias.scope metadata entries.

Could you give examples? I don't quite follow this. I had thought that the analysis would be slightly different. My expectation is that each noalias argument pointer would turn into a @llvm.noalias call, all of them sharing a single metadata "scope". And then any loads or stores through a pointer derived from a @llvm.noalias call would never alias loads and stores derived through a different @llvm.noalias call which had the same scope metadata.
 
This intrinsic needs to carry control dependencies (it cannot be hoisted out of a loop, for example) -- in this sense it is very much like @llvm.assume. And like @llvm.assume, we'll need to add logic to various passes to ignore it as appropriate so that it does not block optimizations unnecessarily.

We should do something to make this simpler. I think we should have an intrinsic inst base class that assume, lifetime, and other intrinsics which do not represent actual code in the final program derive from so that we don't have to update these lists all over the place. If we need 2 tiers to model assume & noalias as distinct from the lifetime or other intrinsics, fine. We should have high-level categories that can be tested and updated.

Hal Finkel

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Nov 13, 2014, 10:26:51 PM11/13/14
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>
> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:02:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] Upcoming Changes/Additions to Scoped-NoAlias metadata
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Hal Finkel < hfi...@anl.gov >
> wrote:
>
>
> After discussing this with Chandler offline last week, here's the
> proposed solution: instead of having both !alias.scope and !noalias
> metadata, we'll have only !alias.scope metadata and an intrinsic:
> i8* @llvm.noalias(i8* ptr, !metadata !?) where the metadata argument
> corresponds to a list of !alias.scopes. The idea being that the
> pointer returned by this intrinsic, and all pointers derived from
> it, are assumed not to alias with memory accesses tagged with any of
> the associated !alias.scope metadata entries.
>
>
> Could you give examples? I don't quite follow this. I had thought
> that the analysis would be slightly different. My expectation is
> that each noalias argument pointer would turn into a @llvm.noalias
> call, all of them sharing a single metadata "scope". And then any
> loads or stores through a pointer derived from a @llvm.noalias call
> would never alias loads and stores derived through a different
> @llvm.noalias call which had the same scope metadata.

Sorry, I did not state this very well. Yes, that's correct, with the exception that "derived through a different
> @llvm.noalias call which had the same scope metadata" should also be supplemented with being derived from other identified objects (just like with a noalias argument attribute).

>
>
> This intrinsic needs to carry control dependencies (it cannot be
> hoisted out of a loop, for example) -- in this sense it is very much
> like @llvm.assume. And like @llvm.assume, we'll need to add logic to
> various passes to ignore it as appropriate so that it does not block
> optimizations unnecessarily.

> We should do something to make this simpler. I think we should have
> an intrinsic inst base class that assume, lifetime, and other
> intrinsics which do not represent actual code in the final program
> derive from so that we don't have to update these lists all over the
> place. If we need 2 tiers to model assume & noalias as distinct from
> the lifetime or other intrinsics, fine. We should have high-level
> categories that can be tested and updated.

Agreed. There is come commonality here that can be exploited for at least some of the passes.

-Hal

Raul Silvera

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Nov 14, 2014, 11:37:50 AM11/14/14
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Hal, a couple of questions:

1. Do you preserve alias to stores+loads derived through a different @llvm.noalias call which has different scope metadata? Couldn't that be treated similarly to S+Ls derived from other identified objects? 

2. Can you describe the case for explicitly preventing the intrinsic being hoisted out of a loop? Since the intrinsic generates a new pointer, wouldn't the interesting cases be handled by avoiding commoning of the intrinsic?


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Hal Finkel

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Nov 14, 2014, 12:52:35 PM11/14/14
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raul Silvera" <rsil...@google.com>
> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:34:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] Upcoming Changes/Additions to Scoped-NoAlias metadata
>
>
>
> Hal, a couple of questions:
>
>
> 1. Do you preserve alias to stores+loads derived through a different
> @llvm.noalias call which has different scope metadata? Couldn't that
> be treated similarly to S+Ls derived from other identified objects?

From a different scope? No. Here's why:

int i = ...;
T a, b;
T * y1 = ..., y2 = ...
{
T * restrict x = y1;
a = x[i];
}
{
T * restrict x = y2;
b = x[i];
}

which becomes:

int i = ...;
T a, b;
T * y1 = ..., y2 = ...
T * x1 = @llvm.noalias(y1, !scope1);
a = x1[i]; // alias.scope !scope1
T * x2 = @llvm.noalias(y2, !scope2);
b = x2[i]; // alias.scope !scope2

but can we assume that 'x1[i]' does not alias with 'x2[i]'? No.

Now one possible design here is to solve this problem by mutual dominance, but to do that, we'd need to make code motion around the @llvm.noalias calls highly restricted. I'd like to allow for as much data motion as possible.

>
>
> 2. Can you describe the case for explicitly preventing the intrinsic
> being hoisted out of a loop? Since the intrinsic generates a new
> pointer, wouldn't the interesting cases be handled by avoiding
> commoning of the intrinsic?
>

No, here's why. Take the following example:
T * y = ...;
for (int i = 0; i < 1600; ++i) {
T * restrict x = y;
T t = x[i];
t += 1;
x[i] = t;
}

which becomes something like:

T * y = ...;
for (int i = 0; i < 1600; ++i) {
T * x = @llvm.noalias(y, !scope1)
T t = x[i]; // alias.scope !scope1
t += 1;
x[i] = t; // alias.scope !scope1
}

now we need to make sure that the call to @llvm.noalias is not hoisted out of the loop. In order to do that, we tag it as writing (at least to y). The problem is that, as noted in the original e-mail, when looking across loop iterations (as the loop vectorizer must do), it is important to be able to test whether or not the call to @llvm.noalias dominates the loop in question. This example is over-simplified (because there is only one pointer used in the loop), but imagine there are several such pointers used. Does that make sense?

Thanks again,
Hal

Philip Reames

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Nov 14, 2014, 1:04:45 PM11/14/14
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On 11/13/2014 05:02 PM, Chandler Carruth wrote:

This intrinsic needs to carry control dependencies (it cannot be hoisted out of a loop, for example) -- in this sense it is very much like @llvm.assume. And like @llvm.assume, we'll need to add logic to various passes to ignore it as appropriate so that it does not block optimizations unnecessarily.

We should do something to make this simpler. I think we should have an intrinsic inst base class that assume, lifetime, and other intrinsics which do not represent actual code in the final program derive from so that we don't have to update these lists all over the place. If we need 2 tiers to model assume & noalias as distinct from the lifetime or other intrinsics, fine. We should have high-level categories that can be tested and updated.
Agreed.

Specific to this point, I've seen a number of cases in discussion recently where a notion of a intrinsic which is control dependent on surrounding control flow, but does not read or write memory would be useful.  It really feels like that's what the current implementation of llvm.assume has become and likely what this proposal would require.  Maybe it's time to introduce a notion of an arbitrary non-memory control dependence?

Cases that come to mind:
- invariant.*
- lifetime.*
- float point state changes (this last one might need a stronger restriction than the others)

Philip

Hal Finkel

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Nov 14, 2014, 1:06:33 PM11/14/14
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Reames" <list...@philipreames.com>
> To: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:57:54 AM
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>
>
But these two do have a memory control dependence, right? You can't reorder a store to x and a lifetime.end(x).

-Hal

> - float point state changes (this last one might need a stronger
> restriction than the others)
>
> Philip
>

Philip Reames

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Nov 14, 2014, 1:11:57 PM11/14/14
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The specific case you gave is actually fine, but your point is true.
I'd gotten myself confused here.

If you have a store immediate before a lifetime.end, the store is dead
and can be assumed to not be visible in the program. As a result, I
don't see why it's illegal to reorder them.

*addr = x;
lifetime.end(addr)
==
lifetime.end(addr)
*addr = x;
==
lifetime.end(addr)

However, the same example with a load can not be reordered, precisely
because the load is not necessarily dead.
x = *addr;
lifetime.end(addr)
!=
lifetime.end(addr)
x = *addr;

Philip

Raul Silvera

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Nov 14, 2014, 1:21:22 PM11/14/14
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Thanks, Hal... Let me stay on the first question for now.

If we take your example and remove the first restrict:
  T A;
  T * y1 = ..., y2 = ...
  {
    T * x = &A;

    a = x[i];
  }
  {
    T * restrict x = y2;
    b = x[i];
  }

Will we assert that *x1 and *x2 do not alias each other? If so, why is it OK here and not if the first one is restrict? I believe from a language perspective you just need the bottom restrict to make the guarantee.

On Fri Nov 14 2014 at 9:48:42 AM Hal Finkel <hfi...@anl.gov> wrote:
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> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:34:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] Upcoming Changes/Additions to Scoped-NoAlias metadata
>
>
>
> Hal, a couple of questions:
>
>
> 1. Do you preserve alias to stores+loads derived through a different
> @llvm.noalias call which has different scope metadata? Couldn't that
> be treated similarly to S+Ls derived from other identified objects?

From a different scope? No. Here's why:

  int i = ...;
  T a, b;

Philip Reames

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Nov 14, 2014, 1:34:50 PM11/14/14
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+1

The design proposal seems reasonable; I have a couple of comments on
implementation.

On 11/13/2014 04:44 PM, Hal Finkel wrote:
> After discussing this with Chandler offline last week, here's the proposed solution: instead of having both !alias.scope and !noalias metadata, we'll have only !alias.scope metadata and an intrinsic: i8* @llvm.noalias(i8* ptr, !metadata !?) where the metadata argument corresponds to a list of !alias.scopes. The idea being that the pointer returned by this intrinsic, and all pointers derived from it, are assumed not to alias with memory accesses tagged with any of the associated !alias.scope metadata entries. This intrinsic needs to carry control dependencies (it cannot be hoisted out of a loop, for example) -- in this sense it is very much like @llvm.assume. And like @llvm.assume, we'll need to add logic to various passes to ignore it as appropriate so that it does not block optimizations unnecessarily. I was hoping this avoid this part of the design space, but I don't see any way around it -- only some non-hoistable instruction can model a control dependence.
There have been several related ideas being talked about recently. If
possible, it'd be nice to arrive at something fairly general.

Andy Trick and I were talking about the possibility of a more general
control dependent metadata holder at the dev meeting. The basic idea is
that you'd have an intrinsic something like "void
llvm.tag_metadata(any_ty %value, !metadata !?)" The semantics would be
that the given metadata applies to the given value at the specific
location. By combing this with existing forms of metadata, this
converts each from being a property of a value to being a property of a
value at a particular location. Implementation wise, it would be
extremely similiar to the existing llvm.assume intrinsic.

Your current proposal uses the data dependence off the intrinsic,
whereas I was thinking using something closer to the assume mechanism.
Andy had previously put forth an idea (in the 'Optimization hints for
"constant" loads' thread) for a similar intrinsic to create a new value
with a data dependence tied to a function with control dependence. (To
make scoping !invariant possible.) I can see appeal in both schemes,
but it seems like most folks are leaning towards the data dependent model.

Do you think it makes sense to roll this all into one family of
intrinsics? Or do you see something in your proposed use which wouldn't
work for other types of metadata?

Other example use cases:
- !invariant loads mixed with initialization of the same location
- !nonnull and !range facts recorded by a language frontend

p.s. For the sake of completeness, Andy and I were also talking about a
version of this idea for function attributes as well. This would give
us the ability to say things like "if this value is non-null, it is
dereferenceable to size X".

Philip

Hal Finkel

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raul Silvera" <rsil...@google.com>
> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:15:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] Upcoming Changes/Additions to Scoped-NoAlias metadata
>
> Thanks, Hal... Let me stay on the first question for now.
>
>
>
> If we take your example and remove the first restrict:
> T A;
> T * y1 = ..., y2 = ...
> {
> T * x = &A;
> a = x[i];
> }
> {
> T * restrict x = y2;
> b = x[i];
> }
>
> Will we assert that *x1 and *x2 do not alias each other? If so, why
> is it OK here and not if the first one is restrict?

You don't have x1 and x2 in your example, assuming you mean:

int i = 0;
T A;
T * y2 = ...
{
T * x1 = &A;
a = x1[i];
}
{
T * restrict x2 = y2;
b = x2[i];
}

then the answer is no, the fact that x2 is restrict qualified does not allow us to conclude that &x2[i] and &x1[i] don't alias.

> I believe from a
> language perspective you just need the bottom restrict to make the
> guarantee.

Now assuming that the '...' is not &A, the BasicAA will catch this, but that's another matter. You'd need to have the restrict in a parent block here.

-Hal
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Hal Finkel

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> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:27:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] Upcoming Changes/Additions to Scoped-NoAlias metadata
>
> +1
>
> The design proposal seems reasonable; I have a couple of comments on
> implementation.
>
> On 11/13/2014 04:44 PM, Hal Finkel wrote:
> > After discussing this with Chandler offline last week, here's the
> > proposed solution: instead of having both !alias.scope and
> > !noalias metadata, we'll have only !alias.scope metadata and an
> > intrinsic: i8* @llvm.noalias(i8* ptr, !metadata !?) where the
> > metadata argument corresponds to a list of !alias.scopes. The idea
> > being that the pointer returned by this intrinsic, and all
> > pointers derived from it, are assumed not to alias with memory
> > accesses tagged with any of the associated !alias.scope metadata
> > entries. This intrinsic needs to carry control dependencies (it
> > cannot be hoisted out of a loop, for example) -- in this sense it
> > is very much like @llvm.assume. And like @llvm.assume, we'll need
> > to add logic to various passes to ignore it as appropriate so that
> > it does not block optimizations unnecessarily. I was hoping this
> > avoid this part of the design space, but I don't see any way
> > around it -- only some non-hoistable instruction can model a
> > control dependence.
> There have been several related ideas being talked about recently. If
> possible, it'd be nice to arrive at something fairly general.
>
> Andy Trick and I were talking about the possibility of a more general
> control dependent metadata holder at the dev meeting.

I know ;) -- Andy and I talked about it too.

> The basic idea
> is
> that you'd have an intrinsic something like "void
> llvm.tag_metadata(any_ty %value, !metadata !?)" The semantics would
> be
> that the given metadata applies to the given value at the specific
> location. By combing this with existing forms of metadata, this
> converts each from being a property of a value to being a property of
> a
> value at a particular location. Implementation wise, it would be
> extremely similiar to the existing llvm.assume intrinsic.

I like this idea, I don't think it works for this case (unfortunately). Explained below...

>
> Your current proposal uses the data dependence off the intrinsic,
> whereas I was thinking using something closer to the assume
> mechanism.
> Andy had previously put forth an idea (in the 'Optimization hints for
> "constant" loads' thread) for a similar intrinsic to create a new
> value
> with a data dependence tied to a function with control dependence.
> (To
> make scoping !invariant possible.) I can see appeal in both schemes,
> but it seems like most folks are leaning towards the data dependent
> model.

The data dependence is easier to find, but harder on the optimizer (because the intrinsic appears opaque to anything not taught to look through it). For @llvm.assume, using a data dependence really was not possible (the assumption could involve many values, which to return? and if all of them, looking through all of the insert/extractvalue instructions would have been painful). There are two issues here that I see with using a control dependence alone. First, it might be too easy to lose. For example, let's say we have:

foo(T * x) {
T * restrict y = x - 1;
y[0] = 0;
y[1] = 1;
...
}

if we take the control dependence model, and do something like this:

foo(T * x) {
T * y = x - 1;
@llvm.noalias(x - 1, !scope1);
y[0] = 0;
y[1] = 1;
...
}

but the optimizer will likely make this into:

foo(T * x) {
T * y = x - 1;
@llvm.noalias(x - 1, !scope1);
x[-1] = 0;
x = 1;
...
}

and, effectively, the noalias information will be lost for the second access. That's why I picked a data dependence here. Now you might think that we could get around this by canonicalizing @llvm.noalias(x - 1, !scope1) into @llvm.noalias(x, !scope1), but that's not really legal either. Actually, it's worse than that, it is really important to partition the users of the @llvm.noalias from other uses of the pointer. Here's my canonical example:

void foo(T * restrict x, T * restrict y) {
for (int i = 0; i < 1600; ++i)
x[2*i+1] = y[2*i] + 1;
}

now imagine inlining a call of foo(q, q). This is allowed because the accesses based on x and those based on y are disjoint, but this cannot be modeled safely with the control-dependence and a single scope alone.

[Coincidentally, this is the second time today I've used this example; see http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=21556 for the other place, which you might also find interesting].

>
> Do you think it makes sense to roll this all into one family of
> intrinsics? Or do you see something in your proposed use which
> wouldn't
> work for other types of metadata?

I do want this, as a separate matter, but I don't think it necessarily works here.

>
> Other example use cases:
> - !invariant loads mixed with initialization of the same location
> - !nonnull and !range facts recorded by a language frontend
>
> p.s. For the sake of completeness, Andy and I were also talking about
> a
> version of this idea for function attributes as well. This would
> give
> us the ability to say things like "if this value is non-null, it is
> dereferenceable to size X".

Yep. I certainly care about dereferenceability too ;)

Thanks again,
Hal

>
> Philip
>
>
>

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Leadership Computing Facility
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Raul Silvera

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You don't have x1 and x2 in your example, assuming you mean:

  int i = 0;
  T A;
  T * y2 = ...
  {
    T * x1 = &A;
    a = x1[i];
  }
  {
    T * restrict x2 = y2;
    b = x2[i];
  }

then the answer is no, the fact that x2 is restrict qualified does not allow us to conclude that &x2[i] and &x1[i] don't alias.

​It should, no? by virtue of x2 being restrict you know that *x2 doesn't alias A, and *x1 is A.​

This example is flawed anyway ​because it only has loads, so the aliasing isn't that interesting. Something more realistic:

  T
​A, B

  T * x1 = 
​.... // either &A or &B
  T * y2 =
​.... // ​
​maybe &A
​  ​
{

    T * restrict x2 = y2;
   
​*​
x
​1
​ = ...

   
​*​
x2
​ = ...

  }

​In this case you'll be able to tell *x1 doesn't alias​ *x2, right? How about if you add restrict to x1?

Hal Finkel

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> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
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>
> You don't have x1 and x2 in your example, assuming you mean:
>
> int i = 0;
> T A;
> T * y2 = ...
> {
> T * x1 = &A;
> a = x1[i];
> }
> {
> T * restrict x2 = y2;
> b = x2[i];
> }
>
> then the answer is no, the fact that x2 is restrict qualified does
> not allow us to conclude that &x2[i] and &x1[i] don't alias.
>
>
>
>
> It should, no? by virtue of x2 being restrict you know that *x2
> doesn't alias A, and *x1 is A.

No, it doesn't. The fact that x2 is restrict does not mean that it does not alias with any other potential accesses from variables live in its block. It only means it does not alias with other accesses with that occur in the block where x2 is live. There is no access to A or x1 in that block, so we can say nothing about it.

>
>
> This example is flawed anyway ​because it only has loads,

Yes, but I'm ignoring that for the time being.

> so the
> aliasing isn't that interesting. Something more realistic:
>
>
>

T A, B;
T * x1 = .... // either &A or &B
T * y2 =​ .... // ​​maybe &A
{
T * restrict x2 = y2;
​ *​x1 = ...

​ *​x2 = ...
}

>
>
>
> In this case you'll be able to tell *x1 doesn't alias​ *x2, right?

In this case, yes, we can conclude that x1 and x2 don't alias (because *x1 and *x2 cannot both legally refer to the same object).

> How about if you add restrict to x1?

The conclusion is the same, but if you add restrict to x1, you don't need it on x2. x2 is definitely not based on x1, so if x1 is restrict, then we know that x1 and x2 don't alias.

Thanks again,
Hal

Raul Silvera

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> You don't have x1 and x2 in your example, assuming you mean:
>
> int i = 0;
> T A;
> T * y2 = ...
> {
> T * x1 = &A;
> a = x1[i];
> }
> {
> T * restrict x2 = y2;
> b = x2[i];
> }
>
> It should, no? by virtue of x2 being restrict you know that *x2
> doesn't alias A, and *x1 is A.

No, it doesn't. The fact that x2 is restrict does not mean that it does not alias with any other potential accesses from variables live in its block. It only means it does not alias with other accesses with that occur in the block where x2 is live. There is no access to A or x1 in that block, so we can say nothing about it.

It does. You can assume x2 is not aliased to A and still get well-defined semantics, precisely because A is not referenced in the scope of x2. That refinement would only get you into trouble if A is referenced in the scope of x2, which would trigger UB.

Going further, logically the intrinsic should return a pointer to a new object, disjoint from all other live objects. It is not aliased to A, and is well defined even if it contains &A because A is not referenced in the scope. This does require dataflow barriers on entrance/exits to the scope, but those can be made no worse than the original code.

Aliasing x2 to A is not only unnecessary, but also pessimistic because in general you do not have access to the dynamic scope of the restricted pointer.


  T A, B;
  T * x1 = .... // either &A or &B
  T * y2 =​ .... // ​​maybe &A
  {
    T * restrict x2 = y2;
​    *​x1 = ...
​    *​x2 = ...
  }

>
> In this case you'll be able to tell *x1 doesn't alias​ *x2, right?

In this case, yes, we can conclude that x1 and x2 don't alias (because *x1 and *x2 cannot both legally refer to the same object).

> How about if you add restrict to x1?

The conclusion is the same, but if you add restrict to x1, you don't need it on x2. x2 is definitely not based on x1, so if x1 is restrict, then we know that x1 and x2 don't alias.

Agreed. So will your approach be able to catch both cases? It seemed to me it wouldn't be able to catch the second one because it would have a different scope, but probably I'm missing something. 

Thanks for your patience,

Hal Finkel

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> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:26:57 AM
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>
> > You don't have x1 and x2 in your example, assuming you mean:
> >
> > int i = 0;
> > T A;
> > T * y2 = ...
> > {
> > T * x1 = &A;
> > a = x1[i];
> > }
> > {
> > T * restrict x2 = y2;
> > b = x2[i];
> > }
> >
> > It should, no? by virtue of x2 being restrict you know that *x2
> > doesn't alias A, and *x1 is A.
>
> No, it doesn't. The fact that x2 is restrict does not mean that it
> does not alias with any other potential accesses from variables live
> in its block. It only means it does not alias with other accesses
> with that occur in the block where x2 is live. There is no access to
> A or x1 in that block, so we can say nothing about it.
>
>
>
> It does. You can assume x2 is not aliased to A and still get
> well-defined semantics, precisely because A is not referenced in the
> scope of x2. That refinement would only get you into trouble if A is
> referenced in the scope of x2, which would trigger UB.

I don't understand exactly what you're saying here. You can do that at the source level where you still have the original blocks. The problem is that, at the IR level, these blocks don't remain separate basic blocks, and the distinction then matters.

>
>
> Going further, logically the intrinsic should return a pointer to a
> new object, disjoint from all other live objects. It is not aliased
> to A, and is well defined even if it contains &A because A is not
> referenced in the scope.

This is essentially what is done, but only for accesses in the scope (or some sub-scope). I don't think the semantics allow for what you're suggesting. The specific language from 6.7.3.1p4 says:

[from C]
During each execution of B, let L be any lvalue that has &L based on P. If L is used to
access the value of the object X that it designates, ...,
then the following requirements apply: ... Every other lvalue
used to access the value of X shall also have its address based on P.
[end from C]

Where B is defined in 6.7.3.1p2 to be, essentially, the block in which the relevant declaration appears. And we can really only extrapolate from that to the other access in that block, and not to the containing block.

This does require dataflow barriers on
> entrance/exits to the scope, but those can be made no worse than the
> original code.

These don't turn into general scheduling barriers anyway. They'll be tagged as writing to memory, yes, but like with @llvm.assume, they'll get special treatment in BasicAA and a few other places so they don't hurt code motion too badly.

>
>
>
> Aliasing x2 to A is not only unnecessary, but also pessimistic

It is pessimistic, but only in the sense that the restrict qualifier does not say anything about it.

> because in general you do not have access to the dynamic scope of
> the restricted pointer.
>
>
>
>
> T A, B;
> T * x1 = .... // either &A or &B
> T * y2 =​ .... // ​​maybe &A
> {
> T * restrict x2 = y2;
> *​x1 = ...
> *​x2 = ...
> }
>
> >
> > In this case you'll be able to tell *x1 doesn't alias​ *x2, right?
>
> In this case, yes, we can conclude that x1 and x2 don't alias
> (because *x1 and *x2 cannot both legally refer to the same object).
>
> > How about if you add restrict to x1?
>
> The conclusion is the same, but if you add restrict to x1, you don't
> need it on x2. x2 is definitely not based on x1, so if x1 is
> restrict, then we know that x1 and x2 don't alias.
>
> Agreed. So will your approach be able to catch both cases? It seemed
> to me it wouldn't be able to catch the second one because it would
> have a different scope, but probably I'm missing something.

Yes, it will catch it. Just as in the current metadata design, the scope of each access is really a list of scopes. The accesses in the inner blocks get tagged with both the inner and the outer scopes, so they pick up the restrict from the outer scope.

>
>
> Thanks for your patience,
>

Not a problem; I appreciate the feedback!

-Hal

>
>
> >
>
> --
> Hal Finkel
> Assistant Computational Scientist
> Leadership Computing Facility
> Argonne National Laboratory
>

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Raul Silvera

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> > You don't have x1 and x2 in your example, assuming you mean:
> >
> > int i = 0;
> > T A;
> > T * y2 = ...
> > {
> > T * x1 = &A;
> > a = x1[i];
> > }
> > {
> > T * restrict x2 = y2;
> > b = x2[i];
> > }
> >
> > It should, no? by virtue of x2 being restrict you know that *x2
> > doesn't alias A, and *x1 is A.
>
> No, it doesn't. The fact that x2 is restrict does not mean that it
> does not alias with any other potential accesses from variables live
> in its block. It only means it does not alias with other accesses
> with that occur in the block where x2 is live. There is no access to
> A or x1 in that block, so we can say nothing about it.
>
>
>
> It does. You can assume x2 is not aliased to A and still get
> well-defined semantics, precisely because A is not referenced in the
> scope of x2. That refinement would only get you into trouble if A is
> referenced in the scope of x2, which would trigger UB.

I don't understand exactly what you're saying here. You can do that at the source level where you still have the original blocks. The problem is that, at the IR level, these blocks don't remain separate basic blocks, and the distinction then matters.

Agreed. My point is that if you preserve the
​block boundaries​
 yo
u
can use
 
​better
 
a
​​
liasing for the restricted pointers. You are already preserving the block entry
​by introducing the
intrinsic
​;
 the block exits could be similarly preserved.

> Going further, logically the intrinsic should return a pointer to a
> new object, disjoint from all other live objects. It is not aliased
> to A, and is well defined even if it contains &A because A is not
> referenced in the scope.

This is essentially what is done, but only for accesses in the scope (or some sub-scope). I don't think the semantics allow for what you're suggesting. The specific language from 6.7.3.1p4 says:

[from C]
During each execution of B, let L be any lvalue that has &L based on P. If L is used to
 access the value of the object X that it designates, ...,
 then the following requirements apply: ... Every other lvalue
 used to access the value of X shall also have its address based on P.
[end from C]

Where B is defined in 6.7.3.1p2 to be, essentially, the block in which the relevant declaration appears. And we can really only extrapolate from that to the other access in that block, and not to the containing block.
 
Inside that block
​ (the lifetime of P)
, it is safe to assume that X is
​disjoint from an
 arbitrary live object
 A. It if was
n't
, either:
- A is independently referenced inside the block, so there is UB and all bets are off.
- A is not independently referenced inside the block,
​so
 t
here are no pairs of accesses to incorrectly reorder as all accesses to A in
the block are done through P. You just need to delimit the block with dataflow barriers
​,​
 summariz
​ing
 the effect of the block at entry/exit.


This is similar to the way dummy args are implemented on Fortran compilers, extended to arbitrary scopes.

Hal Finkel

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> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:23:25 AM
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>
> blo ck entry

> by introducing the intrinsic
> ; the block exits could be similarly preserved.

I preserve them only weakly... I don't want full barriers; in fact, I plan to add InstCombine code to combine calls to @llvm.noalias (it will also take a list of scopes, not just one, so this is possible). The goal is to have as few barriers as possible.

> so t here are no pairs of accesses to incorrectly reorder as all


> accesses to A in
> the block are done through P. You just need to delimit the block
> with dataflow barriers
> , summar iz
> ing the effect of the block at entry/exit.

Okay, I think I agree with you assuming that we put in entry/exit barriers to preserve the block boundaries. I'd specifically like to avoid that, however.

>
>
>
> This is similar to the way dummy args are implemented on Fortran
> compilers, extended to arbitrary scopes.

Interesting.

Thanks again,
Hal

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Raul Silvera

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I preserve them only weakly... I don't want full barriers; in fact, I plan to add InstCombine code to combine calls to @llvm.noalias (it will also take a list of scopes, not just one, so this is possible). The goal is to have as few barriers as possible.

Good.
I'm not proposing full code motion barriers, only punctual dataflow use/defs to signal entry/exit to the scope. 

Logically, entering the scope transfers the pointed data into a new unique block of memory, and puts its address on the restrict pointer. Exiting the scope transfers it back. Of course you do not want to actually allocate a new object and move the data, but you can use these semantics to define the scope entry/exit intrinsics. Their contribution to dataflow is only limited to the content of the address used to initialize the restricted pointer. These would be lighter than the proposed intrinsic as they would not have specialized control-flow ​restrictions.

This approach makes the restrict attribute effective against all live variables without having to examine the extent of the scope to collect all references, which is in general impractical. It also removes the need for scope metadata, as there would be no need to name the scopes.

Anyway, this is just a general alternate design, since you were asking for one. I'm sure still would take some time/effort to map it onto the LLVM framework.

Regards,


Hal Finkel

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> From: "Raul Silvera" <rsil...@google.com>
> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:09:40 PM
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>

Thanks for explaining, I now understand what you're proposing.

>
> This approach makes the restrict attribute effective against all live
> variables without having to examine the extent of the scope to
> collect all references, which is in general impractical.

I think you've misunderstood this. For restrict-qualified local variables, every memory access within the containing block (which is everything in the function for function argument restrict-qualified pointers) get tagged with the scope. This is trivial to determine.

> It also
> removes the need for scope metadata, as there would be no need to
> name the scopes.

Indeed.

>
>
> Anyway, this is just a general alternate design, since you were
> asking for one.

Yes, and thank you for doing so.

> I'm sure still would take some time/effort to map it
> onto the LLVM framework.

That does not seem too difficult, the question is really just whether or not it gives us what we need...

>

So in this scheme, we'd have the following:

void foo(T * restrict a, T * restrict b) {
*a = *b;
}

T * x = ..., *y = ..., *z = ..., *w = ...;
foo(x, y);
foo(z, w);

become:

T * x = ..., *y = ..., *z = ..., *w = ...;

T * a1 = @llvm.noalias.start(x); // model: reads from x (with a general write control dep).
T * b1 = @llvm.noalias.start(y);
*a1 = *b1;
@llvm.noalias.end(a1, x); // model: reads from a1, writes to x.
@llvm.noalias.end(b1, y);

T * a2 = @llvm.noalias.start(z);
T * b2 = @llvm.noalias.start(w);
*a2 = *b2;
@llvm.noalias.end(a2, z);
@llvm.noalias.end(b2, w);

This does indeed seem generally equivalent to the original proposal in the sense that the original proposal has an implicit ending barrier at the last relevant derived access, and here we have explicit ending barriers. The advantage is the lack of metadata (and associated implementation complexity). The disadvantage is that we have additional barriers to manage, and these are write barriers on the underlying pointers. It is not clear to me this would make too much difference, so long as we aggressively hoisted the ending barriers to just after the last use based on their 'noalias' operands.

So this is relatively appealing, and I think would not be a bad way to model C99 restrict (extending the scheme to handle mutually-ambiguous restrict-qualified pointers from aggregates seems straightforward). It does not, however, cover cases where the region of guaranteed disjointness (for lack of a better term) is not continuous. This will come up when implementing a scheme such as that in the current C++ alias-set proposal (N4150). To construct a quick example, imagine that our implementation of std::vector is annotated such that (assuming the standard allocator) each std::vector object's internal storage has a distinct alias set, and we have:

std::vector<T> x, y;
...
T * q = &x[0];


for (int i = 0; i < 1600; ++i) {

x[i] = y[i];
*q += x[i];
}

so here we know that the memory accesses inside the operator[] from x and y don't alias, but the alias-set attribute does not tell us about the relationship between those accesses and the *q. The point of dominance, however, needs to associated with the declaration of x and y (specifically, we want to preserve the dominance over the loop). A start/end barrier scheme localized around the inlined operator[] functions would not do that, and placing start/end barriers around the entire live region of x and y would not be correct. I can, however, represent this using the metadata scheme.

Thanks again,
Hal

>
>
>
> Regards,

Raul Silvera

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I'm going to have to read N4150 before commenting on your second point, but in the meantime, a few questions. In the original proposal, if you have:

T A,B;
void foo(T *restrict a, T* restrict b) {
  A = *b;
  *a = A;
}

How is this going to be modeled so that B is aliased to *a and *b, but A isn't? What if the references to A are in a call made from foo, which will be inlined later on?

Also, what if the reference is in a side path, like this:

T A, B;
void foo(T *restrict a, T *restrict b, bool c) {
  T tmp = *b;
  if (c) {
    A = tmp;
  }
  *a = *b;
}

Will you alias A to *a and *b? Seems to me you have to, as foo(&A, &B, false) has well-defined semantics. On the scheme I proposed there is no need, as the exit barrier would separate *a from references to A after the call. Not aliasing A *b will save the reload of *b after the conditional.

Thanks

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Hal Finkel

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> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
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>
>
> I'm going to have to read N4150 before commenting on your second
> point, but in the meantime, a few questions. In the original
> proposal, if you have:
>
>
> T A,B;
> void foo(T *restrict a, T* restrict b) {
> A = *b;
> *a = A;
> }
>
>
> How is this going to be modeled so that B is aliased to *a and *b,
> but A isn't? What if the references to A are in a call made from
> foo, which will be inlined later on?

Within the current AA framework, this question has no well-defined meaning. AA only answers queries sensibly regarding values that are simultaneously live and referenced at some point in the function's control flow. Metadata aside, even with the current function argument attributes, querying alias('B', '*b') will respond with NoAlias (for both values, llvm::isIdentifiedObject will return true -- it will return true for both GlobalVariables and for noalias arguments).

This is another example of why you cannot use our current AA framework for IPA, doing so simply does not make sense. The metadata/intrinsics scheme I've proposed does not change this.

>
>
> Also, what if the reference is in a side path, like this:
>
>
> T A, B;
> void foo(T *restrict a, T *restrict b, bool c) {
> T tmp = *b;
> if (c) {
> A = tmp;
> }
> *a = *b;
> }
>
>
> Will you alias A to *a and *b? Seems to me you have to, as foo(&A,
> &B, false) has well-defined semantics.

No, and it does not do so now. Querying A or B (global variables) vs. *a or *b will return NoAlias. There is no point in the CFG of this function where an object accessed through *a or *b can legally be A or B.

Now to the proposed metadata/intrinsics, let's assume that A and B are local variables in the caller. It is true that *a and *b will be based on a @llvm.noalias result, but that noalias result will only be used if the access is tagged with the associated metadata scope (which will be true for *a, *b and the A within the inlined function, but not true otherwise, thus the semantics will be identical after inlining.

> On the scheme I proposed
> there is no need, as the exit barrier would separate *a from
> references to A after the call. Not aliasing A *b will save the
> reload of *b after the conditional.

I agree your scheme will also capture this.

Thanks again,
Hal

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Raul Silvera

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Thanks for the answers, Hal. I kept forgetting that you annotate the references in the scope.

I agree with your previous points. The main advantage of preserving the scope end is that it would apply the restrict against references introduced by further inlining. IIUC on your scheme that doesn't happen as the newly inlined references will be missing the scope metadata.

About N4150, I agree your scheme is needed to implement it. Another idea for extending C99 restrict to C++ might be to annotate pointer class members as "owned" or "unique", to allow the restrict property to propagate through.


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Hal Finkel

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> To: "Hal Finkel" <hfi...@anl.gov>
> Cc: "Chandler Carruth" <chan...@google.com>, "LLVM Developers Mailing List" <llv...@cs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:36:59 AM
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>
>
> Thanks for the answers, Hal. I kept forgetting that you annotate the
> references in the scope.
>
>
> I agree with your previous points. The main advantage of preserving
> the scope end is that it would apply the restrict against references
> introduced by further inlining. IIUC on your scheme that doesn't
> happen as the newly inlined references will be missing the scope
> metadata.

I was planning on keeping the current logic within the inliner that will adjust for that... if you inline a callsite with scope metadata attached, it will add it to all of the memory accessing instructions that result from the inlining.

>
>
> About N4150, I agree your scheme is needed to implement it.

Okay, thanks!

> Another
> idea for extending C99 restrict to C++ might be to annotate pointer
> class members as "owned" or "unique", to allow the restrict property
> to propagate through.
>

Agreed. I like the simple expressive power of the current proposal -- we'll see if I still feel that way once I've completed the implementation ;)

-Hal

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