JSR-343 Progress

[Faisal CM]

Hi All,

I have registered my interest to read about the progress on JSR-343.

I have not read anything for a long period of time. Is anyone doing
anything? What are your thoughts on the next step for this group?

Regards,
Faisal

[Trisha Gee]

I think the next step might be to meet up face to face, so we can have a chat and kick around ideas.

How do people feel about that?

[Mukhan Myrzakulov]

Sounds like a plan. I'm in.

--
Sincerely, Mukhan.

[Prasannaa]

I am in.

 

Cheers

Prasannaa

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From: Trisha Gee <trish...@gmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress

[Madhusudhan Konda]

I work at Liverpool street, London. Any where in London should be find by me.

I would prefer a long lunch session rather than drinks though :)

Regards 

Madhu 

Madhusudhan Konda

Mobile :+44 (0)7803 712271 

Home :www.madhusudhan.com

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From: trish...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:58:01 +0000
Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

[Prasannaa]

I think it would be fine if we meet after 6 PM or we can meet at developers session of LJC

I was there last month specifically to meet other JSR members, was not able to meet any one from JSR-343.

Maybe we can plan this time around, anyone for it?

Cheers
Prasannaa

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From: Madhusudhan Konda <kn...@hotmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: JSR-343 Progress

[Mukhan Myrzakulov]

I would prefer after 6 PM as well. 

--
Sincerely, Mukhan.

[Madhusudhan Konda]

Okay, if that suits everyone, let's go for 6pm shift!

Before coming to meeting, can we have some heads up - so every one will know what exactly we are discussing there?

Now, while we are on the email, can we not discuss something moving forward?

I wish to understand first: where is JMS 2.0 at the moment? Are there any concrete requirements taken on board? Are they condensed to make them solid requirements yet?

Let's pick up a requirement and discuss on email - I think the more we dwell this on email the better it gets digested and more (re)views too.

One question: Last time when I heard of JMS 2.0, I was under the impression that Tim Fox (JBoss) was heading it. Is that not the case or has he left?

Also,

Regards 

Madhu 

Madhusudhan Konda

Mobile :+44 (0)7803 712271 

Home :www.madhusudhan.com

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From: mukh...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:53:54 +0000

[Trisha Gee]

A starting point for this information is here: http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=343

[gaurav agarwal]

Hello Everyone 

I am also like to contribute at my end on this group as far as i can basically i am from india . I am interested in this group . So also if possible please include me with your updates as well .

Thanks

Gaurav

[Faisal CM]

All,

 

The link gives lot of details; I shorten the details to focus on small details first.

 

The JMS API requires improving ease of development. The suggested way is to

improve the programming model, introduce the annotations to define behavior

and JNDI to refer to the resources.

 

The current API has ambiguities where it is unclear how a JMS provider should behave

in various cases. The key goal of JMS was to increase the portability of applications

between the JMS providers. By hardening the specification and clarifying the ambiguities,

we are not leaving the detailed behavior up to the vendor to define. It means, user

application written with one provider will work in the same way as with other provider.

 

The existing JMS specification does not contain any information on how the JMS API should

be used by applications running in a Java EE container. The goals should be to make it

easier for both the user and JSM vendors to understand how the JMS API should be used in

an application server. It could be defining a new API to allow any JMS provider to be

integrated with any Java EE application server. Subsequent to the release of JMS specification,

Java EE architecture has been evolved and developed. Any new features requires by the

community can be added.

 

Over the years, different vendors have found additional features which despite being

non-standard. The newly added similar features can be standardized.

 

I think, we can discuss how anyone can help in this proposed specification or the need

of the Java Community.

 

Anyone can add details or come up with anything different to discuss.

 

 

Regards,

Faisal

 

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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:50:57 +0530
Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress
From: gzag...@gmail.com
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

Thanks Faisal, that was a great summary!

So, here's the condensed list (from Faisal's + spec) that could be on our
Agenda:

- Enhancing with latest Java (and possibly Java 7) features (Annotations,
cloud etc)
- Addressing API ambiguities
- Introducing Dependency Injection & Context patterns
- Standardizing JMS and JEE interfaces

Does that sound all?

Thanks
Madhu

> Madhusudhan KondaMobile :+44 (0)7803 712271 Home :www.madhusudhan.com

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[Faisal CM]

Thanks, Madhu.

I'm wondering, how and where to start work for JSR?

I noticed the _Contributions_ section. It explains;

The listed documents, specifications or implementation that describe the technology are;

1. JSR 914: Java Message Service (JMS) API http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=914
2. Java Message Service 1.1 specification: http://java.sun.com/products/jms/docs.html
3. Open Message Queue: http://mq.java.net/
4. GlasssFish Server, Open Source Edition: https://glassfish.dev.java.net/
5. JSR 322: Java EE Connector Architecture 1.6: http://jcp.org/en/jsr/summary?id=322

Explanation of how these items might be used as a starting point for the work?

The Java Message Service1.1 API, and its Reference Implementation, Open Message Queue, 

will be the starting point for this work.

Guys, What you think?

Regards,
Faisal

> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:47:17 -0600
> Subject: RE: JSR-343 Progress
> From: madhu...@madhusudhan.com
> To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

Probably yes Faisal, but be aware of these specs - you may loose focus as
they are quite in depth and a bit geeky.

I am not saying we shouldn't touch them, only cautioning to be more
focussed. I have had experience with JCA and JMS Specs in the past - both,
esp JCA is quite dry!!

One thing I want to understand before we even think of working:

- Are we the only people who are going to work on this spec?

- There's seems to a body on the Spec (Not sure if Nigel is still leading
or not - someone confirm pl)

- What's our input into the Spec body and how are we associated? I mean
are we the development body?

What do you think?

Regarding the code, we need to checkout the JMS RI and start playing
around. Not sure of the home of source code for JMS 2.0 yet :(

So questions..questions..

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> Thanks, Madhu.
> I'm wondering, how and where to start work for JSR?
> I noticed the _Contributions_ section. It explains;
> The listed documents, specifications or implementation that describe the
> technology are;
> JSR 914: Java Message Service (JMS) API

> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=914Java Message Service 1.1 specification:
> http://java.sun.com/products/jms/docs.htmlOpen Message Queue:
> http://mq.java.net/GlasssFish Server, Open Source Edition:
> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/JSR 322: Java EE Connector Architecture

[Prasannaa]

Hi All

I am happy to see ppl showing some interest in JSR 343 and questions being raised.

>- Are we the only people who are going to work on this spec?

I guess we are not the only ones, there will be more people working (Oracle, IBM, RedHat ... ref :http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=343 ) on, and we are part of this JSR-Spec. If we get more people in this JSR we will have more ideas.

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=343

>- There's seems to a body on the Spec (Not sure if Nigel is still leading
or not - someone confirm pl)

Lead for JMS spec is

• Lead: Nigel Deakin (http://java.net/jira/browse/JMS_SPEC)

>- What's our input into the Spec body and how are we associated? I mean
are we the development body?

We are part of LJC, and i am quite sure our inputs will be taken for discussions.

>- What's our input into the Spec body and how are we associated? I mean
are we the development body?

As of now we are in the specification stage.

Quite sometime back there was a brainstorming mail from Mikhail Krivoshein  on Dec 21, 2011 (http://groups.google.com/group/ljc-adopt-jsr-343/browse_thread/thread/94d9f17206a8b6a6?hl=en)

these were his views

My contribution:

1) JMS 2.0 defines on the wire format for messages (aka AMQP, XMPP) -
I intentionally do not share my view on this here to facilitate the
brainstorming.
2) JMS 2.0 is an evolution of JMS 1.1 that allows implementation of
fully functional AMQP, XMPP clients and servers on JVM
3) JMS 2.0 adds standardization to some advanced functionality of
existing message brokers such as use of group id message property by
Websphere MQ and ActiveMQ, use of proprietary message properties in
Weblogic JMS; unit of order functionality in Weblogic JMS.
4) JMS 2.0 adds support for ad-hoc or logical queues and complex
message delivery patterns beyond point to point and publish/subscribe.
5) JMS 2.0 adds semantics that natively fits computation grids use
cases where task may be broadcast to multiple nodes and results are
collected together by the sender (GridGains comes to mind). In a sense
it would be a step away from point to point to something like point to
multipoint semantics.
6) JMS 2.0 introduces semantics for asynchronous restful web services,
i.e. instead of HTTP based it will be message based.
7) JMS 2.0 is a refreshed version of JMS 1.1 that supports generics
and annotations (somewhat overlaps with EJB 3.1 but it is
brainstorming so details can be discussed later)

I think I have cleared some of the questions raised by Madhusudan.

Please correct me if i am wrong,

And another link on the current issues which are in JIRA (there are some 32 issues)

http://java.net/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+JMS_SPEC+AND+Tags+%3D+eg

Thank You
Prasannaa

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From: "madhu...@madhusudhan.com" <madhu...@madhusudhan.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: JSR-343 Progress

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

Thanks Prasanna, much appreciated.

Yes, you've cleared my confusion, I guess :)

With respect to the way we start working, shall we pick up just one simple
task and dwell over it? Once everyone is on the ball and we have gained
enough experience on the task, possibly we could split the tasks between
us. What would you guys say?

Thanks
Madhu

> Hi All
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> I am happy to see ppl showing some interest in JSR 343 and questions being
> raised.
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>>- Are we the only people who are going to work on this spec?
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> I guess we are not the only ones, there will be more people working
> (Oracle, IBM, RedHat ... ref :http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=343 ) on,
> and we are part of this JSR-Spec. If we get more people in this JSR we
> will have more ideas.
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> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=343
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>>- There's seems to a body on the Spec (Not sure if Nigel is still leading
> or not - someone confirm pl)
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> Lead for JMS spec is
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> * Lead:Nigel Deakin (http://java.net/jira/browse/JMS_SPEC)

[Faisal CM]

Thanks, Prasanna.

I still have a question, what will be the way forward?

It's good to know the current issues on the Jira. It seems to me that
only Nigel is working on those issues. Probably, we need to communicate
with Nigel to get some feedback. It would certainly help, how we can
contribute?


Regards,
Faisal

> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:39:36 -0600
> Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress
> From: madhu...@madhusudhan.com
> To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

Perhaps dropping an email to Nigel would help clear the confusion, I too
think. Prasanna, would you be think the same too?

[Prasannaa]

Hi Faizal,

I think we can all meet next week, and decide the way forward. 

There is a LJC event next week Zero Downtime of JavaEE applications and Home Automation with Java and Arduino.Meeting).

Any one from JSR-343 comming for the event?

As an update, I have created a page for JSR-343 (http://java.net/projects/ljc-london-jug/pages/JSR-343).

We will finalize the persons who are leading, and then we can start the communication with Nigel and stram line the works.

PS :: gaurav agarval, don't worry mate. When we have the meeting, I will take the MOM (Moments Of the Meeting) and update you.

Cheers

Prasannaa

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From: Faisal CM <c.fa...@hotmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: JSR-343 Progress

[Prasannaa]

 Hi Madhu

I would also love to start the process, but I don't want everyone to mail him.

Lets finalize on who is going to lead, already there are 4 of us. I am not able to see if any other news from the other 2. Once we decide who lead, i guess 2 out of the proposed 4. Can start communicating with Nigel and make this JSR (JSR-343) the most active JSR.

I am starting my blog for JDK 8. Which I will be updating on the other JSR's i am working on.

We need to let more people to contribute for the JSR.

Cheers
Prasannaa

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From: "madhu...@madhusudhan.com" <madhu...@madhusudhan.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: JSR-343 Progress

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

I think (and believe) that you have been chosen as the lead, am I not right?

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> �Hi Madhu

[Prasannaa]

We are a group of members, we have to decide as a group. We are all part of LJC and each of the members has a right to them.

I can take your vote, and i would love to have you assisting me.

maybe faizal can vote on this ;)

As of now

One vote for Prasannaa and one vote for Madhu (although we have exchanged our votes :p)

Maybe Trisha can send her views.

cheers
prasannaa

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From: "madhu...@madhusudhan.com" <madhu...@madhusudhan.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress

[Mikhail Krivoshein]

No preference from my side. Agree that we need to establish current state of the JSR before we try to contribute. My attempt at brainstorming appears to be completely off the mark.

Best regards,
Mikhail Krivoshein

[Prasannaa]

 HI Mikhail

i had even posted you brain storming.

we will take up your views as well.

cheers
prasannaa

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From: Mikhail Krivoshein <mikhail.k...@gmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress

[Mukhan Myrzakulov]

voting for Faizal!

--
Sincerely, Mukhan.

[Trisha Gee]

It doesn't matter who is the leader, and many groups have two.  In fact, I'd like to see two, so that there's always someone to pick things up even if one of you is busy.

The "leaders" are likely to emerge as those who are the most involved.  It's not an official title ;)

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

We need two leaders, I think.

Prasanna, unfortunately I can't commit to be assistant for now (may be in
few months time if one of you gets bored), but would recommend you and
Faisal to take the dual leadership role.

Guys, can we agree on this (unless someone want to be stand up - please
don't feel shy, put your hand up and stand in the election).

Here are the list of candidates - and votes next to them. Please fill in
them when you

1. Prasanna - Madhu
2. Faisal - Mukhan, Madhu

PS: Mukhan - is Faizal your first candidate?, can you spot your second
candidate too)

Thanks
Madhu

> voting for Faizal!
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> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Prasannaa <prasan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> HI Mikhail
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>> i had even posted you brain storming.
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>> we will take up your views as well.
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>> cheers
>> prasannaa

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>> *From:* Mikhail Krivoshein <mikhail.k...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2012 3:55 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: JSR-343 Progress

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>> No preference from my side. Agree that we need to establish current
>> state
>> of the JSR before we try to contribute. My attempt at brainstorming
>> appears
>> to be completely off the mark.
>> Best regards,
>> Mikhail Krivoshein
>> On Feb 17, 2012 3:37 PM, "Prasannaa" <prasan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> We are a group of members, we have to decide as a group. We are all part
>> of LJC and each of the members has a right to them.
>>
>> I can take your vote, and i would love to have you assisting me.
>>
>> maybe faizal can vote on this ;)
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>> As of now
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>> One vote for Prasannaa and one vote for Madhu (although we have
>> exchanged
>> our votes :p)
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>> Maybe Trisha can send her views.
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>> cheers
>> prasannaa
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>>

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>> *From:* "madhu...@madhusudhan.com" <madhu...@madhusudhan.com>
>> *To:* ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2012 3:21 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: JSR-343 Progress

[Prasannaa]

Hi muka

thank you for your participation

 the people who have showed interest to lead JSR 343 were

• Prospective Leads (i.e. people who have shown a slight interest in being the lead):

1. Prasannaa
2. Michael Joyce
3. Madhusudhan
4. Mayur Bodkhe
5. Mikhail Krivoshein (deputy lead)

http://java.net/projects/ljc-london-jug/pages/JSR-343

Faizal is not in the the list :(

Cheers
prasannaa

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From: Mukhan Myrzakulov <mukh...@gmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress

[Trisha Gee]

Forget that page, it's very out of date.  Go based on activity on this mailing list - these are the people who are actually proving to be interested.

[Prasannaa]

We can have

1.Prasannaa
2.Faizal
3.Mikhail Krivoshein

I remember Mikhail Krivoshein, showed his interest to be as deputy lead.

Mikhail Krivoshein are you in?

cheers
Praannaa

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From: "madhu...@madhusudhan.com" <madhu...@madhusudhan.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: JSR-343 Progress

[Mikhail Krivoshein]

Hard to say. Depends on what we aim to achieve.

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

Ummh..let's not debate on this issue guys..else we loose focus!

What I can propose is - if all agree - let's Prasanna and Faisal (Faisal
hasn't yet confirmed) be the group leaders.

Give them at least three month term - if no one is interested after three
months, let them continue.

Remember, they are not going to carry a briefcase that would destroy the
entire human race with a flick of the switch :)

Agree?

> Hard to say. Depends on what we aim to achieve.
> On Feb 17, 2012 4:53 PM, "Prasannaa" <prasan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> We can have
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>> 1.Prasannaa
>> 2.Faizal
>> 3.Mikhail Krivoshein
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>> I remember Mikhail Krivoshein, showed his interest to be as deputy lead.
>>
>> Mikhail Krivoshein are you in?
>>
>> cheers
>> Praannaa
>>

>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* "madhu...@madhusudhan.com" <madhu...@madhusudhan.com>
>> *To:* ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

>> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2012 4:46 PM

[Trisha Gee]

Agree with that - wouldn't be at all surprised if leaders rotate as their availability to contribute changes.

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

Team

Please let's kick-start JMS2.0 JSR - let's not procrastinate any further.

As a gentle rule, do you think it is a good thing to expect mail/feedback
every alternate day at least from each one of us? For example, team
members are expected to work/read/document/analyse/shout/moan/etc atleast
three times a week. Ofcourse, there will be exceptions (you may be really
neck-deep in work, holidaying cruise on the river Nile, (Trying
to)Climbing mount everest or running for a 1000k km run) :)

Can propose a Mon,Wed and Friday email catchup? or at least Tue/Thu?

Thanks
Madhu

[Prasannaa]

 Hi Madhu

I was about to mail regarding, the meeting we had planned.

How about meeting next week, tuesday, 28th. Maybe we can plan to meet at Oxford Street (The Slug and Lettuce).

Expecting to hear all your views.

Thank You
Prasannaa

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From: "madhu...@madhusudhan.com" <madhu...@madhusudhan.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:47 AM
Subject: Guys..pl don't go into hibernation

[madhu...@madhusudhan.com]

Thanks Prasanna.

Can you please book the meeting? This way we know if all are fine and
happy to come over.

In the mean time, can you pick up a simple task related to the JMS2.0
requirements and circulate please? So we all can butt in.

Thanks
Madhu
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> �Hi Madhu

[Trisha Gee]

Can I suggest a Doodle poll (http://doodle.com/) to find out people's availability?  Then we can schedule something that everyone can make.

[Prasannaa]

HI All

Thank You Trisha for the Doodle link.

I have created a poll with 3 meeting times on tues, wed and thur next week

Participation link

Send this link to anyone you wish to invite.

http://www.doodle.com/zdcp6qmid69z5x9c

 

Cheers

Prasannaa

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From: Trisha Gee <trish...@gmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Guys..pl don't go into hibernation

[Trisha]

Can I suggest we close the Doodle poll by the end of the weekend?  Otherwise we could be waiting indefinitely for people to say yes or no.  Also, is there a way you can alter the poll to allow yes/no/maybe answers, so that we can tell the difference between people who can't make the date vs those who haven't answered yet?

Trisha

[Prasannaa]

I will close the poll by the weekend,

Unfortunately not able to edit the poll to add the option for YES/No (Maybe in future, I willtry to add the other options for poll).

 As of now only 3 (including me) have agreed for the meeting.

Maybe those who are interested can mail their views, more the people for the meeting. The more exciting it would sound

People can mail their views and interest in meeting.

PS : My views

I would love to meet the members of the meeting

Place     :: London
Timing  :: After 6 PM int he evening (week days).

Prasannaa

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From: Trisha <trish...@gmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Prasannaa <prasan...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:53 AM

Subject: Re: Guys..pl don't go into hibernation

[Prasannaa]

HI all

The poll has been closed.

The most popular day has been "Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:30 PM" as final option(s) for the Doodle poll "JSR 343".

The result for the poll

4 members have accepted to attend the meeting on Tuesday, and 2 of them Maybe option.

Members accepted

1. Prasannaa
2. Madhu
3. Carlos
4. Dinuk

Members with Maybe option.

1. Mikhail
2. Trisha Gee

Thank You for each and every one for participating in the poll.

Hope to meet you all on Tuesday.

Thank You
Prasannaa

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From: Trisha <trish...@gmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Prasannaa <prasan...@yahoo.com>

Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:53 AM

Subject: Re: Guys..pl don't go into hibernation

[Mikhail Krivoshein]

Hi all,

Sorry, I cannot make it as I will still be out of country.

Best regards,
Mikhail Krivoshein

[Prasannaa]

Hi Mikhail

we will meet next week, if you are in the city by then.

Prasannaa

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From: Mikhail Krivoshein <mikhail.k...@gmail.com>
To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:56 AM

[Faisal CM]

Prasannaa,

Sorry, I can not make it. But I'm looking forward to read the meeting minutes and findings.

Regards,
Faisal

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Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 03:03:06 -0800
From: prasan...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Guys..pl don't go into hibernation

To: ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com

[Trisha Gee]

Sorry that wasn't a maybe - I can't make any of the days next week.

[Prasannaa]

 HI

Tomorrow meeting details

Time :: 6:30 PM
Venue:: The Slug and Lettuce, 19/20 Hanover Street, London - http://www.slugandlettuce.co.uk/hanover_street/

Hope to meet you guys tomorrow ...

Prasannaa

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From: Prasannaa <prasan...@yahoo.com>
To: "ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com" <ljc-adop...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:32 AM