Adobe Livecycle Vs Adobe Experience Manager

[renjith vijayan]

Hi All,

Sorry to ask silly question.

What is the Difference between Adobe LC ES4 and Adobe Experience Manager? 

I am having experience in Adobe LC ? Do i have to under go training in AEM before working on it?

or Adobe LC experience in enough?

Is AEM an upgrade of Adobe LC or a completely different tool? 

regrads

Renjith Vijayan 

[Darren]

Hi Renjith,

I will try to dot point the differences with what you are after:

• Livecycle is Adobe's JEE application stack for Forms, Processes, PDF and more
• AEM (also CQ or just CRX) is Adobe's CMS platform they acquired from Day software and is based on Apache Jackrabbit, Sling, OSGi and other open source technologies
• AEM Forms is components of Livecycle ported over to live inside AEM and allows you do to things like Mobile Forms, Adaptive Forms and render XDPs as PDFs etc
• Livecycle ES4 contains a version of AEM (5.6.0) + Mobile Forms (it is installed when you select Forms Manager and Mobile Forms modules during the Livecycle ES4 install)
• AEM Forms now runs standalone in AEM without the JEE stack and is completely OSGi based (it can also run in the JEE stack too)
• Many of the Livecycle APIs (Output, Forms, PDFG, etc) for the JEE stack have been ported over to the OSGi stack (most, not all and some with major functionality removed from them)
• Process Manager (aka Forms Workflow) is still only available on the JEE stack

If you want to use the AEM/CRX components within Livecycle ES4, then it is preferable to do at least the AEM Developer course, so you understand the basics of CRX, sling and other AEM technologies. Its huge and its not straightforward (technically neither is Livecycle either...)

Cheers 

Darren

[Rob McDougall]

Darren's points are all essentially correct except for one thing.  As far as I know, LiveCycle ES4 does not contain the full AEM 5.6 product.  If contains a subset of it (CRX plus a few CQ bits required for Mobile Forms).  In order to get full AEM functionality, you need to purchase AEM.

The LiveCycle product has been rolled into AEM 6 as "AEM Forms" and is available in two flavours: AEM Forms and AEM Forms for JEE.  

AEM Forms is a subset of the LiveCycle modules (the ones that don't rely on JEE functionality) running under the AEM OSGi container.  This version has most but not all LiveCycle functionality (in particular, the Process Management and orchestration engine are not part of this product).

AEM Forms for JEE is essentially the upgrade path from LiveCycle ES4 to AEM Forms.  It is structured in a way that is similar to ES4 (it has both the traditional LiveCycle and AEM code running under a JEE Application Server).  If you are familiar with LiveCycle, then AEM Forms for JEE will be very familiar to you.  This version has full LiveCycle and full AEM capabilities.

If you know LiveCycle and you don't need the AEM functionality, then you can install AEM Forms for JEE and continue using just the LiveCycle components.  Things won't feel much different than any other LiveCycle upgrade to you.

The upgrade from LiveCycle to AEM is not covered directly under LiveCycle maintenance and support however the sales representative you bought the software from should be able to negotiate a deal on upgrading to AEM.

Regards,

Rob

Rob McDougall | Senior Technical Architect | 4Point | www.4Point.com

[Darren]

Thanks for pointing that out Rob - yes the AEM 5.6 version in ES4 is a cut-down version that was enough to support their new Forms Manager and Mobile Forms. The functionality of the JCR and Sling are all there so if you want to tinker around in there, the concepts all come across to AEM Forms 6.x (OSGi & JEE).

[Renjith]

Thanks Darren and Rob.

That's what I was looking for.

Is there any way I can get the trial /demo version of AEM?

Thanks and regards

Renjith Vijayan

On 1 Jul 2015, at 7:25 am, Darren <darren...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for pointing that out Rob - yes the AEM 5.6 version in ES4 is a cut-down version that was enough to support their new Forms Manager and Mobile Forms. The functionality of the JCR and Sling are all there so if you want to tinker around in there, the concepts all come across to AEM Forms 6.x (OSGi & JEE).

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[Darren Bowers]

Sure - talk to your local Adobe sales rep and they will organise a trial 30 day license of AEM for you. AEM Forms can be installed via Package Share from the AEM menus. Partners can get a developer (non-expiring) development license.

If you specifically want the AEM Forms JEE trial, then ask specifically for that. They will email you a trial download link for this as its not available via Adobe's website any more like Livecycle ESx was. Took me a few goes to get this one so you need to be patient with them ;)

Cheers

Darren