difference between livecycle es2 and livecycle es4

[Shirshak Roy]

As our environment is using very old livecycle es2 product , and the credential as well as the root certificate is already expired in january 2023, our production application is not working. So , we are thinking  about either  to renew the credentials for es2  or upgraded to es4 .

could anyone tell me what is the difference between adobe livecycle  es2 and es4?

[fred.pantalone]

Adobe should have issued a new Reader Extensions certificate that expires in 2036 to your accout. Check the licensing site and if they haven't issued it then open a case with Adobe support. They should be able to take care of this relatively quickly.

You'll have to sort through the release notes for the differences between ES2 and ES4 but what is the compelling reason to go with ES4 over AEM 6.5 JEE? It's the same thing, essentially, and your applications should work without much or any migration work. Are you using Policy Server/Rights Management? Do you have long-lived processes that you need to migrate? If the answer is no to both of these then you're way better off doing a fresh install of 6.5 (I would never perform an in-place upgrade and anyway this one would take a few intermediate installs of previous versions - a big mess) and importing your LCAs into it. Even 6.3 contains Flash content, fss! Remember Flash, "the most widely distributed run-time in the history of mankind"? Thankfully, that's all gone now...

BTW, ES4 went out of support 3 years ago:

https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/support/programs/eol-matrix.html

[Duane Nickull]

You're kidding me????  AEM 6.3 still has Flash?  As a former Adobe Technical Evangelist I spent years working on it as it was literally the best path forward for mobile (which PDF completely fails at).  

What is the preference for mobile forms for LC ES/AEM developers today?

Duane

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[Shirshak Roy]

Hi all,

Since I am a fresher in the proje  t as well as new to that adobe .

Let me tell you the complete incidents:

1. We have the three environments for our application (Prod,support,uat). The three applications are working fine till 8 th january and suddenly it went down from 8th january . We are using adobe lc designer to change in our pdf , deploying it in smartform manager and adobe lc workbench has so many complex processes that will be called by the backend java code. 

2, Upon our investigation, we have found that the credential has expired in adobe admin ui  through three environments . (it is not possible i think to break the same code for all three environments without touching it ..LOL)

3. Since this is the problem , we are thinking about renewing the credentiials and certificate for es2 or moving to new AEM

[Srujan Kumar M]

Hello Roy,

Better to switch to AEM 6.5 with the latest SP15. No other go.

Regards,

Srujan

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SrujaN

[fred.pantalone]

Hey Duane, 

Yes, in 6.3 Flash is used for some parts of adminui and also the ReaderExtensions web console. As you know, they often looked for places to use Flex/Flash where it was completely unnecessary. Remember when the entire help system was a Flex application? What an absolute disaster. 

Fred

[fred.pantalone]

Ok, let me reiterate that the quickest way to get your application back up and running is to get the new Reader Extensions cert installed on all 3 environments and make sure you use the same alias that was previously used so your application won't have to be changed. All of this is under the assumption that you've had M&S - maintenance and support - all along. If you don't then you are royally screwed. 

[fred.pantalone]

I never answered your question about mobile. The solution for mobile is adaptive forms - html forms that adapt to the screen size automagically. One design that, in theory, works for desktop and smartphone and everything in between. Also, Adobe's preferred offering is the OSGi version of AEM Forms and not the JEE version. 

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:51:59 PM UTC-5 Duane Nickull wrote: