[whoisdatabase@hotmail.com: Re: Network Solutions Lists] (fwd)
Larry Snyder
For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly
write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation
of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
-ls- (LS11)
>>>>> Forwarded message from James Rishaw <ja...@dilbert.ais.net>
Ugh!
There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database...
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jamie at ais dot net infrastructure engineering
"I will NOT go to a party with a version number." -davidr
Steven J. Sobol
> write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation
> of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
> ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
> -ls- (LS11)
Complain to EZnet (looks like they host the website) and e-i too (e-i
has an open relay with a broken Sun implementation of Sendmail that doesn't
stamp the IP address of the originating machine.)
I have to agree with Larry. You need to have public access to the database...
it's a double edged sword. I *would* let Network Solutions know about this
geek, since said geek seems to be attempting to leverage the NetSol name
for his own financial gain.
Content-Description: Forwarded message from whoisd...@hotmail.com
> From: whoisd...@hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:33:48 GMT
> To: intern...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Network Solutions Lists
> We can show you how to generate so much traffic,
> that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server!
> That's right!
Cool. Initiate a DoS attack on your own web server. :D
Morons... (the spammers, not the people complaining :)
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Ulf Zimmermann
> For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly
> of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
> ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
> -ls- (LS11)
I just noticed on the last catalog I got from Dell in the mail, that they
are walking the Database too. Because it is addressed to a fantasy name
I used for one of my domains.
>
> >>>>> Forwarded message from James Rishaw <ja...@dilbert.ais.net>
>
> Ugh!
>
> There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database...
>
>
> --
> jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc.
> jamie at ais dot net infrastructure engineering
>
> "I will NOT go to a party with a version number." -davidr
Content-Description: Forwarded message from whoisd...@hotmail.com
> Received: from eagle.ais.net (ro...@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5])
> by dilbert.ais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18307
> for <ja...@dilbert.ais.net>; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:40:42 -0600 (CST)
> From: whoisd...@hotmail.com
> Received: from hq.qual.net (hq.qual.net [209.57.200.33])
> by eagle.ais.net (AIS/NET) with ESMTP id QAA09181
> for <ja...@ais.net>; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:40:42 -0600 (CST)
> Received: from hera_in.e-i.net (osiris.e-i.net [193.57.116.140])
> by hq.qual.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02179
> for <ja...@iagnet.net>; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:40:39 -0500 (EST)
> Received: from default by hera_in.e-i.net (8.8.5/SMI-SVR4)
> id WAA86964; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:33:48 GMT
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:33:48 GMT
> Message-Id: <199812122233.WAA86964@hera_in.e-i.net>
> To: intern...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Network Solutions Lists
>
>
> Hi,
>
> According to our records, you have at least
> one domain registered with Network Solutions,
> aka The Internic.
>
> http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois/
>
> Please do not be offended by this email.
> This is not a mass spam mailing. Your
> email address is on an Opt-In list of domain
> owners who are interested in increasing
> their website traffic.
>
> We can show you how to generate so much traffic,
> that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server!
> That's right!
>
> We have a huge list of Internic's Domain Owners,
> extracted from the Whois Database available
> for download from our password protected
> website right now. For more details,
> visit our site . . .
>
> http://www.targetedlists.com/
>
>
> If you order before Dec. 31st, you will receive
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>
> This is a one time mailing offer to members
> of Network Solutions Whois Database of Domain
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> any further mailings from our company.
>
> To request removal from this opt-in list,
> send an email with "unsubscribe" in the
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>
> Thanks for your time and consideration,
>
>
> The UnderWorld
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>
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>
>
> << End forwarded message
>
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John Fraizer
>Complain to EZnet (looks like they host the website) and e-i too (e-i
>has an open relay with a broken Sun implementation of Sendmail that doesn't
>stamp the IP address of the originating machine.)
Note that is EZnet, not enterzone.net:
[root@Overkill /]# traceroute www.targetedlists.com
traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 209.41.244.2 @ eth0
traceroute to redirect.vdirect.com (208.157.147.83), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 border-core0-eth1.Columbus.EnterZone.Net (209.41.244.1) 0.617 ms
0.523 ms 0.455 ms
2 core1-eth0-ENTERZONE.Columbus.fnsi.net (209.115.127.21) 1.028 ms
0.910 ms 0.813 ms
3 border1-atm6.Chicago.fnsi.net (209.115.127.226) 6.812 ms 8.143 ms
7.838 ms
4 aads.mci.net (198.32.130.12) 491.237 ms 46.901 ms 26.091 ms
5 aads.mci.net (198.32.130.12) 33.045 ms 21.640 ms 25.143 ms
6 core3-hssi1-0.WillowSprings.cw.net (204.70.1.197) 14.381 ms 15.987 ms
15.976 ms
7 core1.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.4.181) 30.023 ms 32.887 ms 32.003 ms
8 border4-fddi-0.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.64.35) 31.930 ms 32.649 ms
32.158 ms
9 ez-net-inc.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.68.14) 75.019 ms 48.042 ms
54.948 ms
10 208.157.147.83 (208.157.147.83) 48.145 ms 48.798 ms 47.213 ms
>
>> We can show you how to generate so much traffic,
>> that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server!
>> That's right!
>
>Cool. Initiate a DoS attack on your own web server. :D
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James D. Wilson
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Makes you wonder if the guy who was going to sell the CD's of the
whois database might have had some of them make it to market, either
before or after they shut down. Didn't NetSol say they took measures
to keep people from sequentially mining the database?
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James D. Wilson
- -----Original Message-----
On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 07:59:43PM -0500, Larry Snyder wrote:
> The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public
information.
> For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will
certainly
> write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in
violation
> of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
> ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
> -ls- (LS11)
I just noticed on the last catalog I got from Dell in the mail, that
they
are walking the Database too. Because it is addressed to a fantasy
name
I used for one of my domains.
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Larry Snyder
Gawd -- I open my mouth once a month here and even then I manage
to insert foot. Qual WAS the last relay before he got the spam.
You got it from e-i.net, who got it from ??? Sorry about that!
-ls-
Bradley Reynolds <br...@null0.qual.net> wrote:
> what does this have to do with qual.net?
>
> or are you just using that as a random name?
>
> BR
>
> On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Larry Snyder wrote:
>
> > The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information.
> > For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly
> > write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation
> > of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith.
> > ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real!
> > -ls- (LS11)
> >
J.D. Falk
> Makes you wonder if the guy who was going to sell the CD's of the
> whois database might have had some of them make it to market, either
> before or after they shut down.
There are other folks selling that database also, but they
aren't quite as blatant about it.
> Didn't NetSol say they took measures
> to keep people from sequentially mining the database?
They said they did. I haven't tried mining it to check.
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