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Jul 27, 2026, 1:33:00 PM (8 days ago) Jul 27

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From: Fathom <no-r...@fathom.video>
Date: Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 11:26 AM
Subject: Recap for "Impromptu Google Meet Meeting"
To: Larry Masinter-lisp <l...@interlisp.org>

Meeting Purpose Decide on website structure, staging automation, and CHM meeting strategy. Key Takeaways - Website Structure: The bibliography intake guide will get its own subdirectory (/bibliography/intake-guide) to separate static docs from 600+ auto-generated entries. The left-panel nav will show only this guide, expanded by default. - Staging Automation: Bill will first investigate a GitHub Actions-based staging workflow to avoid granting repo access to third parties like Cloudflare or Netlify. - CHM Meeting Strategy: The team will demo Interlisp Online's "museum mode" and NoteCards to the Computer History Museum (CHM) to secure a public affiliation and potential "Interlisp Zoo" feature. - ACM Link Checker: Herb secured ACM's agreement to allow-list the project's IP, resolving a rate-limiting issue that was blocking the link checker for the Zotero bibliography. Topics Website Structure & Navigation - Problem: The new bibliography intake guide is lost among ~600 auto-generated bibliography entries. - Solution 1: Directory Structure - Create a sibling subdirectory for static docs: /bibliography/intake-guide. - This separates static content from the auto-generated entries. - Solution 2: Navigation Panel - The left-panel nav will show only the intake guide, hiding the full bibliography list. - The "Bibliography" section will be expanded by default to make the guide visible without user action. Staging Site Automation - Goal: Automate staging site creation for each PR to streamline validation and reduce reliance on Bill. - Proposed Solution: Use Cloudflare or Netlify to build and deploy staging sites. - Process: A PR hook triggers a build on the provider's infrastructure, creating a temporary URL. - Access: Requires read-only access to the repo. - Concerns: - Granting repo access to a third party. - Negative user experience with Cloudflare's CAPTCHAs. - Decision: Bill will first investigate a GitHub Actions-based workflow. If technically unfeasible, he will reconsider Netlify and notify the team before proceeding. GitHub Actions Fix (PR 2697) - Problem: A scheduled GitHub Actions workflow failed because it couldn't use default boolean inputs, a known GitHub limitation. - Solution: A new scheduled workflow will call the original workflow, explicitly passing the required default parameters. - Status: The PR was approved during the meeting. Computer History Museum (CHM) Meeting Strategy - Goal: Secure a public affiliation and explore a joint project with the CHM. - Demos: The team will present key features to showcase Interlisp's value: - Museum Mode: A simplified, interactive interface for public display. - NoteCards: A demo of its core functionality (e.g., opening a T-Edit doc, starting a TableDrop). - Modern Integration: Show how old and new systems connect (e.g., D-info opening a man page in a browser). - Potential Outcome: A "Interlisp Zoo" on the CHM site, similar to the Smalltalk Zoo, featuring running Interlisp demos. - Logistics: Herb will draft and share an agenda with the CHM contacts before the meeting. Aron's Tapes Data Recovery - Progress: George Blood recovered data from two of Aron's tapes (4 & 5). - Tape 4: Contains the ARIA GUI toolkit code. - Tape 5: Contains ARIA documentation. - Challenge: One tape required physical reconstruction using parts from the other. - Action: Herb will upload the recovered data to the Google Drive History Sources folder. - Context: ARIA was a PARC project (authors: Schrager, Jordan, Moran, Casales, Russell) built on NoteCards. ACM Digital Library Link Checker - Problem: The link checker was being rate-limited by the ACM Digital Library, blocking IP addresses. - Resolution: Herb contacted the ACM Digital Library lead, who agreed to allow-list the project's IP. - Next Step: The ACM team will provide technical details for the allow-list. Project Updates & Roundtable - Mastodon Growth: The Medley project gained ~30 followers (now 548 total) after being featured by the SDF.org account (17k followers). - Frank: Has a Myco PR (549) to fix a Cygwin build bug. - Bill: - Bing Webmaster Tools found one broken link on the site. - A PR to add bibliography metadata is awaiting review. - Larry: - The Self-Represervation Network (SPN) is sunsetting; the team will review its mention on the website. - Deleted files related to the BIPOC process; Nick may have a local copy for recovery. - Paolo: Found a 1985 PARC employee list from a clearinghouse query, noting the absence of Bobrow and Teitelman. Next Steps - Bill: - Implement website changes for the intake guide (subdirectory, nav panel). - Investigate GitHub Actions for staging site automation. - Request review for the bibliography metadata PR. - Herb: - Upload Aron's tapes data to Google Drive. - Draft and share the CHM meeting agenda. - Nick: - Review Frank's Myco PR (549). - Larry: - Review the website's mention of the sunsetting SPN.