Recap of full meeting with Interlisp

[Herb Jellinek]

The other recap was based on the last 30 minutes or so of the meeting.  These notes are from the start.

            Herb

Meeting Purpose Review and finalize the draft of the 2025 annual report. Key Takeaways - The 2025 annual report draft was reviewed and will be finalized by Jan 12, with specific sections assigned to Ron (font/encoding) and Bill (credits). - The project has a new intern, Kabir Gupta (U. of Alberta), who will revive the Richard Gabriel benchmarks, providing valuable feedback for the primer. - Recovery of Arun's tapes is stalled with George Blood, who is unresponsive; the project cannot use the Internet Archive due to unknown content rights. - Bill is developing a Google Vertex AI pipeline to auto-generate reports from project data (GitHub, email), aiming to create a shared repo. Topics Annual Report Review - Overview: The "Overview" section was removed to start the report with 2025 activities. A link to the project history will be added for context. - Community Outreach: The "Lower Barriers" section was renamed "Community Outreach" to better reflect its content. - Core System Work: - The font/encoding work, framed as "interoperability," is also a core system improvement. Ron will revise this section to cover both aspects. - The "HTML module" wording was changed from "completed" to "implemented" to reflect its alpha status and unreleased nature. - The build script description was corrected to focus on "better control of the load up process," not just enabling historical applications. - Credits: The section will be restructured by output (e.g., "Primer," "Bibliography") instead of by person to avoid redundant listings. Bill will handle this revision. - Looking Ahead: - Commitments were softened from "we will" to "we intend to." - A new 2026 goal was added: update the Interlisp Reference Manual (IRM) and Info files. - The sentence about "building from revised sources" was moved to align with learning resources. Project Updates & Round Table - Arun's Tapes: Recovery is stalled with George Blood, who is unresponsive. The tapes require mechanical repair due to a design flaw. The project cannot use the Internet Archive because content rights are unknown. - Internship: Kabir Gupta (U. of Alberta) is the new intern. - Task: Get the Richard Gabriel benchmarks running on Medley. - Goal: Compare Medley's performance to original D-machine results. - Side Benefit: Kabir's feedback will help improve the primer for new users. - Individual Progress: - Nick: Machine upgrade issues are blocking work. - Ron: Awaiting testing/approval for the "hard copy" PR, which is blocking other changes. - Herb: Integrating the HTML stream package with Ron's new font architecture. - Bill: Developing an LLM-based system (Google Vertex AI) to auto-generate reports from project data. - Matt: Fixed bibliography JSON warnings; investigating implementing SETUP-OF-VALUES, an unapproved ANSI CL standard proposal. - Ryan: Testing the DOS port, which runs on MS-DOS and DOSBoxX but crashes on FreeDOS. The VESA 102 flag causes screen artifacts. Next Steps - Paolo: - Finalize the annual report draft by Jan 12. - Announce the Jan 12 deadline to the team. - Ron: - Revise the annual report's font/encoding section. - Send Herb the display font rebuild code and font-complete function. - Bill: - Restructure the annual report's "Credits" section. - Share the Vertex AI repo once stable. - Herb: - Integrate the HTML stream package with the new font architecture. - Share the ACM article link on byte-coded VMs. - Matt: - Review Ron's T-edit abbreviations work. - Ryan: - Prioritize containerizing the DOS port over fixing VESA artifacts.

Impromptu Google Meet Meeting January 07, 2026  •  115 mins  •  View Meeting or Ask Fathom Action Items ✨ Update annual report: add overview link, remove Nick from fonts, add Ron's fonts/encoding, rewrite Credits, fix Noto, copy-edit Paolo Amoroso Announce Jan 12 annual report release deadline to team Paolo Amoroso Email Herb: font-complete helper + display font rebuild code Ron Kaplan Email team: link to Gosling/Allman byte-code VM interview transcript Herb Jellinek Meeting Summary ✨ General Template Customize   •  Change Template Meeting Purpose Review and finalize the draft of the 2025 annual report. Key Takeaways The 2025 annual report draft was reviewed and will be finalized by Jan 12, with specific sections assigned to Ron (font/encoding) and Bill (credits). The project has a new intern, Kabir Gupta (U. of Alberta), who will revive the Richard Gabriel benchmarks, providing valuable feedback for the primer. Recovery of Arun's tapes is stalled with George Blood, who is unresponsive; the project cannot use the Internet Archive due to unknown content rights. Bill is developing a Google Vertex AI pipeline to auto-generate reports from project data (GitHub, email), aiming to create a shared repo. Topics Annual Report Review Overview: The "Overview" section was removed to start the report with 2025 activities. A link to the project history will be added for context. Community Outreach: The "Lower Barriers" section was renamed "Community Outreach" to better reflect its content. Core System Work: The font/encoding work, framed as "interoperability," is also a core system improvement. Ron will revise this section to cover both aspects. The "HTML module" wording was changed from "completed" to "implemented" to reflect its alpha status and unreleased nature. The build script description was corrected to focus on "better control of the load up process," not just enabling historical applications. Credits: The section will be restructured by output (e.g., "Primer," "Bibliography") instead of by person to avoid redundant listings. Bill will handle this revision. Looking Ahead: Commitments were softened from "we will" to "we intend to." A new 2026 goal was added: update the Interlisp Reference Manual (IRM) and Info files. The sentence about "building from revised sources" was moved to align with learning resources. Project Updates & Round Table Arun's Tapes: Recovery is stalled with George Blood, who is unresponsive. The tapes require mechanical repair due to a design flaw. The project cannot use the Internet Archive because content rights are unknown. Internship: Kabir Gupta (U. of Alberta) is the new intern. Task: Get the Richard Gabriel benchmarks running on Medley. Goal: Compare Medley's performance to original D-machine results. Side Benefit: Kabir's feedback will help improve the primer for new users. Individual Progress: Nick: Machine upgrade issues are blocking work. Ron: Awaiting testing/approval for the "hard copy" PR, which is blocking other changes. Herb: Integrating the HTML stream package with Ron's new font architecture. Bill: Developing an LLM-based system (Google Vertex AI) to auto-generate reports from project data. Matt: Fixed bibliography JSON warnings; investigating implementing SETUP-OF-VALUES, an unapproved ANSI CL standard proposal. Ryan: Testing the DOS port, which runs on MS-DOS and DOSBoxX but crashes on FreeDOS. The VESA 102 flag causes screen artifacts. Next Steps Paolo: Finalize the annual report draft by Jan 12. Announce the Jan 12 deadline to the team. Ron: Revise the annual report's font/encoding section. Send Herb the display font rebuild code and font-complete function. Bill: Restructure the annual report's "Credits" section. Share the Vertex AI repo once stable. Herb: Integrate the HTML stream package with the new font architecture. Share the ACM article link on byte-coded VMs.[done] Matt: Review Ron's T-edit abbreviations work. Ryan: Prioritize containerizing the DOS port over fixing VESA artifacts. View Meeting →