Helvetica Cy Bold
Jemima Torguson
This basic font has 378 characters and splendid glyphs, Helvetica supports many languages. It also have another family called helvetica neue can be used for any headings, on your internet site or anywhere else you need.
You can download this font for free from right here for your personal use only. If you have any kind of issue relating to this font family or have any suggestion for us then feel free to comment right down here to share your precious views with us.
UPDATE: I discovered a much closer match to Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold is Nimbus Sans Novus D Condensed bold. In fact, it is also derived from Helvetica. You can get it at MyFonts.com for $20 (desktop) and $20 (web, 10k pageviews). Web with unlimited pageviews is $160. I have used this font throughout (i.e. NOT exploiting the Mac's built in "NimbusSansNovusDBoldCondensed" at all) because it leads to a design that is more uniform across browsers. Built in HN and Nimbus Sans are very similar in all respects but point size. Nimbus needs a few extra points to get an identical size match.
One of the easiest non-free and legal ways is to purchase the font from a foundry that offers web licenses. I happen to know that the myFonts foundry does this; they even give you a full package with all the JavaScript and CSS pre-prepared. I'm sure other foundries do the same.
Edit: MyFonts have Helvetica neue in Stock, but apparently not with a web license. Check out this list of similar fonts of which some have a web license. Also, Ray Larabie has some nice fonts there, with web licenses, some of them are free.
Try the Swiss721 family that I believe comes with AutoCAD, so anyone who can use drawings you send should also have them. It's essentially identical ["Helvetica" is just the Latin word for "Swiss"], and has lots of options of light/boldness, condensedness, extended, outline, etc.
Today I began working on a new customer's job, I have to update a book's
previous edition. When I imported an EPS map, ID pointed out some fonts were
missing in my system: opening the EPS in AI, I found the missing fonts are
Helvetica Oblique and Bold-Oblique.
Checking into Font Book, those fonts are really missing (Regular and Bold
are present). :-oI checked System/Library/Fonts, "Helvetica.dfont" is present (but I can't
check its content). I deleted it, copied the same file from the OSX 10.4
Install DVD (in case it's been corrupted), restarted the Mac: same result.
:-(What happened? How can I have the original full Helvetica set back?
I'm afraid to install my old Helvetica Type 1 font into OSX, because I know
this could conflict with the default OSX fonts (IIRC).I'm using Apple's Font Book to manage my fonts. I know it's not the best,
but for my need has been ok (until now).TIA,
Valter
I should have thought about caches... :-o
I already got Applejack, so I did run it with "AUTO", but it didn't change
anything. I even cleared my User caches.Besides, when checking I noticed the problem just happens in Adobe apps (ID,
Illustrator, Freehand MX).
Within MS Word, OOo and Bean, Helvetica appears full set.
So the System's "Helvetica.dfont" file should be ok, and the problem should
be something Adobe-related...
Hence I deleted all Adobe's "font" something ".lst" files.
Nothing changed.Thinking the Adobe apps use their own fonts, I did a search (with EasyFind)
on "Helve", but I didn't find any Helvetica file in Adobe folders.
I just found these:
/System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.dfont
/System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica LT MM
/System/Library/Fonts/HelveLTMM
/OS9 System Folder/Font/HelveticaNo Helvetica anywere, save for the System one.
Quite puzzling. :-?
How could the Adobe apps seeing that Helvetica differently than other apps?
(and after I reset any font cache)
From Extensis' Font-best-practices:
Classic fonts:
... These fonts are specifically for use with the Classic environment.
NOTE: Fonts in this folder are active even if the Classic environment is
not running...
But in theory classic fonts are lowest on the font hierarchy and System
fonts folder should over-ride them.
If the hierarchy really worked well, font conflicts would never be an
issue, so I wouldn't count on the hierarchy...What happens if you remove the classic fonts (temporarily) and restart?Or perhaps better, if you keep classic fonts and remove helvetica.dfont
from System fonts instead -- (it should use classic helvetica then,
classic does not need to be running for it's fonts to load).
If I remember correctly, with Classic loaded, I needed the helvetica.dfont
to make PDFs in Quark and otherwise the classic fonts were enough...For any of these "tests" you might need to clean caches again to see
results...By "Jobs" folder, Carol meant is there a "Document Fonts" folder in the
InDesign file's folder (which would happen if the job had been packaged).
But memory is fading, I don't think CS3 had "job fonts" -- CS5 will
actually use the fonts in the Job Folder FIRST (often causing font issues)
but I don't think CS3 did(??)**As it is Adobe apps only the are affected, you could try removing all
fonts from /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts
And putting those you need in a system font folder like /Library/Fonts ...
**If you are running Classic, you must be running Tiger or earlier-- of
course Apple has depreciated Tiger and no longer supports it officially
for security updates, etc.
So you are "vulnerable" to exploits -- nothing to do with your font
issues, just something to keep in mind--no one is watching your back
security-wise.Last-ditch effort--in your emails, I don't see that you diligently hunted
down any "Font Book" and Finder preferences and ALL of deleted those.
Sorry, can't remember all the files--I have avoided Font Book for a long
time-- using it can cause all sorts of havoc in a design environment, so
maybe research to be sure you got all the font book - finder related prefs
squashed. I would avoid Font Book and just use System folders and restarts
to manage fonts, and if you have enough fonts that you need to turn them
off and on, seriously consider a professional font manger. In my
experience, just opening Font Book can cause weird things to happen if you
have a lot of fonts to manage.I'd go into Font Book and turn all fonts on, then delete:
file:///Users/bperry/Library/Preferences/com.apple.ATS.plist (can't
remember if this one existed in Tiger, if not, there is another instead,
and there may be more for you in other prefs folders).
file:///Users/bperry/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist
file:///Users/bperry/Library/Preferences/com.apple.FontBook.plist(and any others you can discover) Clear all font caches, And restart...
Sometimes I have to clear all caches 2 or 3 times with restart to get it
to work.On 3/12/11 5:19 PM, "Valter Viglietti - Frame Studio"
wrote:
perfect starting move -- this will rebuild the OS font cachesthe ones that are left are the Adobe caches (and Microsoft, Quark
etc.), but note that in Valter's description he sees the problem in
Font Book so these application caches aren't relevant; he can stop
here on the caches and save a lot of time "fixing" things that aren't
related to the problem
IMO, one should not pay for a font "cleaner"; this is like buying $100
cables for your stereo -- don't do it; if you can't just hold the
shift key down, use a freebie, and chose one that is focused on the
task at hand (like Font Nuke, though Font Nuke has that too-tempting
"Reset Spotlight" checkbox); note that in response to your suggestion
Valter ran AppleJack on Auto mode -- this took a lot longer than
necessary and also will slow his system while it rebuilds all its
caches (not just font caches)
not at all necessary for Valter's symptoms, but a more focused search
would be "adobefnt .lst" (note the space between t and .) -- the
result will be the files you can deleteand you shouldn't need to restart the computer at this point unless
you have something like an Acrobat background process running
> I believe the problem here is that Helvetica Oblique and Bold Oblique
> are not present as separate fonts in the dfont file, but are
> synthesized by the OS by automatically obliquing the upright fonts.
Mhh. It could be...
To avoid that possibility, I tried (in Word X, OOo, Bean) to set BIG text
(say 72pt and over) to the missing fonts (Italic, BoldItalic). And they
looked fine.
In OS9, if they were "fake" fonts, on BIG sizes the on-screen result were
awful.
Does OSX render perfect on-screen "fake" fonts? If it does, then you could
be right (fonts missing at OSX level, not at Adobe apps level).
I know. But I don't own any non-Adobe OSX page-layout app (not using "fake"
fonts, I mean) to check.
Well, I have Freehand MX... but I can't decide if it's Adobe or not. ;-DRegarding Classic, Freehand 9 (not using "fake" fonts) confirms Helvetica is
full set in Classic.I didn't have time to test Bret suggestions yet... in the meantime, thank
you all for your help. :-)
Valter -- Classic fonts should render crisply in Classic apps.
If you are seeing jaggies, then the printer font is not loading ... So
something is amiss with your classic Helveticas... You should see all
Classic styles in FontBook.
You do have all 4 printer fonts and 4 "screen" fonts? (OSX likes screen
fonts "loose", not in a In a suitcase.)
Is your Type 1 Helvetica really old? (as new as possible is best,
certainly avoid older than 1992)
I still recommend a new Opentype Helvetica to avoid any .dfont issues
$100 is not cheap, but your time may be worth it.
>>perfect starting move -- this will rebuild the OS font caches
>
>the ones that are left are the Adobe caches (and Microsoft, Quark
>etc.), but note that in Valter's description he sees the problem in
>Font Book so these application caches aren't relevant; he can stop
>here on the caches and save a lot of time "fixing" things that aren't
>related to the problem