Itall starts with the First Prince himself. I have tried it both ways with him as the general and without him as the general and have found my preference to play him as the general. Doing this you lose the extra command trait that most people choose: Ruinous Aura. I find that the ability to bring back models in my build is something that time and time again proves to be too powerful for me to be without. I use him as a surgical knife that can stay on an objective or go after an important hero when the time is right. It is important to note that even though he can bounce wounds to battleline units on a 4+ he is not invincible. Even at a 4+ save that cannot be modified. I will tell you to use him wisely and keep him semi-protected with screens you summon. Though it is hard to take him down in a single turn, bad dice rolling can get scary. Therefore, I have added the Emerald Life Swarm to my list. The extra Healing can get him almost back up to full health combined with healing in your Heroic Actions phase. His ability to turn off an important unit in AOS 3.0, where heavy-hitting monsters are common, is very helpful.
The next important piece to this army is Kairos Fateweaver. He is an auto-include to this army due to the amount of control he gives you on the board by changing one dice roll per game to whatever you need it to be. He can consistently cast and unbind spells by changing the lowest of your roll to the highest roll. Kairos also gives this army the mortal wounds output it severely lacks. By using the Umbral Spellportal, you can almost guarantee to hit any unit on the board first turn for 6 mortals if you keep him out of unbinding range of your opponent. I usually use this to kill a small support hero or a unit with shooting to drive down their ranged firepower as this army is all about survival and keeping your units on the board.
The third auto-include in the list is The Contorted Epitome with the artifact Fourfold Blade. The fact that you get 9 attacks that do D3 mortal wounds on 5+ is a no-brainer for this army. Add the fact that it is a level 2 wizard that can reroll its casting rolls is a very big bonus. It also has speed which is important to the army because it is not the fastest army.
Using all these little tricks can make it hard for your opponent to get any momentum. Then when they finally make a charge roll you change one of the dice to a 1 with Kairos once per game ability to make them fail the charge. You are not going to make many friends playing this list, but you will win games. I have kept opponents at 0 points for two turns in a couple of different games. The daemon prince version of this army mixed with redeploying makes almost immediate failed charge rolls for your opponents. It changes the way the list plays a bit. But the end goal is the same. Keep your opponents off the objectives by making them fail their charges.
The army is an allegiance for all units that share the CHAOS and DAEMON keywords. This includes not only all daemon units from Blades of Khorne, Disciples of Tzeentch, Maggotkin of Nurgle and Hedonites of Slaanesh, but also some Slaves to Darkness and old Warriors of Chaos compendium units and even the Skaven Verminlords.
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i have a question about "the shadow legion" command ability. Can we return slains models to bloodcrushers, seekers...? Or only battleline like bloodletters, pink horrors, daemonettes?
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Hello, I was thinking about giving this army a shot. I am not a big fan of Be'lakor since I dislike the model, so no Legion of the First Prince for me. How would you build an army list for the faction?
Will have to wait till the book is in hand and I'm not reading stills from youtube videos of reviewers to confirm but I think you can resurrect models from bloodcrushers, seekers etc. As you said, the ability has the KEYWORD of bloodletter etc so I think you were correct in your thinking.
All the keywords mentioned in the ability are plural so (BLOODLETTERS etc) where as Bloodcrushers have Bloodletter singular, hence my thinking of it being restricted to the basic daemons.
GW once stated that singular or plural keywords are interchangeable. For example they often refer to the HEROES keyword in rules, but no warscroll has that keyword, but only the singular keyword HERO.
Q: Sometimes a keyword will be listed in its singular form in one place and its plural form in another. Are the plural and singular forms both considered to be different keywords? For example, are the Bloodletter keyword and the Bloodletters keyword different keywords?
A: No. The singular and plural forms of a keyword are synonymous for rules purposes.
I'm trying to work out if a verminlord corrupter with the relic that does d3 mortal wounds on a 5+ to hit is worth it. 10 attacks , 5's do d3 MW and 6's do d3+1 MW, if you have a spare CP you can reroll any hits that weren't 5's and 6's....
I'd say it definitely is, especially if you run the 5++ bubble command trait either on it or another nearby hero. Corruptors are already amazing assassins with the Sword of Judgement, and this relic is arguably better because it isn't affected by negative to-hit modifiers (and from memory, there's no good/easy way to combine +1 to-hit with the SoJ on a Corruptor?) It's also extremely tough with the double 5++ (I can't be bothered doing the maths but I think you ignore something like nearly 50% of all damage taken!) if you aren't running Be'lakors sub-faction. I'm looking at trying three/four Verminlords, the Changeling, the Masque (you need god-marked heroes to summon daemons in this allegiance) and a mix of Horrors and Daemonettes as a side project. This allegiance is amazing specifically because it gives people like me an excuse to collect cool models tied to armies I otherwise can't afford or don't want to play, and I adore the Verminlord models.
Hellcannons are pretty awesome and can outrange so many threats.....trick is to keep the crew alive. Though now that I write this, the crew are NOT daemons. So I don't think those can be in this all daemons allegiance?
The Hellcannon Warscrolls has two sets of keywords, one of which - the war machine - includes 'daemon'. While the 'crew' may not, you aren't taking a warscoll of them + a warscroll of war machines; the warscroll is the Hellcannon, and it has the daemon keyword through the war machine. No reason, to my mind, you couldn't take it.
Federico also won all his games with a Nighthaunt faction that rarely finishes in the top half of tournament tables, he eventually finished the event in 6th. He won against Legion of the First Prince in Round 1, Legion of the First Prince in Round 2 and Cities of Sigmar/Living City in Round 3.
Brian won 4 games with Beasts of Chaos and finished the event in 7th. He lost second game against eventually 3rd place finisher Alex and his Soulblight Gravelords/Vyrkos Dynasty list. He won against Beasts of Chaos in Round 1, Legion of the First Prince in Round 3, Cities of Sigmar/Living City in Round 4 (which included 40 crossbows, 4x Stormdrake Guard and 4x Fulminators) and Daughters of Khaine/Khailebron in the last round. Truly a great achievement.
Shawn won two of his three games and only lost to first place Karl and his Legion of the First Prince. He beat Sylvaneth/Harvestboon in Round 1 and Ossiarch Bonereapers/Petrifex Elite in Round 2.
Be'lakor is known as the First Prince of Chaos, for it was he who had first gained the favour of all four Dark Gods, long before Archaon had done so. His legion is composed of a wild gathering of daemonic footsoldiers of Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh. Known as the Legion of the First Prince, this nightmarish army has destroyed a countless number of empire and kingdoms over the aeons.[1d]
Be'lakor's antipathy to Archaon is stuff of legend, for Be'lakor claim to the title of Everchosen. Regardless, the two will join forces at time to conquer and despoil with formidable and terrible results.[1b] It is known that Be'lakor commands his demonic legion with absolute obedience, and the words of homage are known to draw the ire of Archaon.[1d]
The daemons who serve Be'lakor do not necessarily do so willingly. While some have been lured with the promise of power, many are coerced or outright forcibly bound to his service.[3a] Over the centuries, Be'lakor has even learned the true names of multiple Greater Daemons, and several of these powerful creatures act as his reluctant generals.[4a]
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