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[Samba] Is the "\\x.x.x.x" type tree connect request a client related feature?

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Chenyehua via samba

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Dec 27, 2016, 6:10:03 AM12/27/16
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Hi folks

I face a problem when using the samba share, Here is the detail:

1) Phenomenon

In windows 7, sometimes, I type the samba server ip address and can see the shared folder. (the samba version is 4.3.11)

a、However when I try to open the shared folder, it fails with a windows error message like “please check the spelling of the name, or some problem may related to the network”, and returns the error code 0x80070035(cannot find the network path).

The shared folder may be opened successfully in a while. Or it will always fail in a long period with the error returned above(not sure if it will automatically recover finally)

b、The problem in a may be client-related and occasionally appeared. At some other windows 7 environments, it may never happen(at least I have tried dozens of times, but it turns out normal each time)



2) Analysis

a、 Something abnormal can be found in the samba log as below:

[2016/12/26 22:15:35.238956, 0, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] ../source3/param/loadparm.c:3240(process_usershare_file)

process_usershare_file: share name //172.16.37.96 contains invalid characters (any of %<>*?|/\+=;:",)

[2016/12/26 22:15:35.238973, 3, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] ../source3/param/service.c:249(find_service)

find_service() failed to find service //172.16.37.96

[2016/12/26 22:15:35.238985, 3, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] ../source3/smbd/smb2_tcon.c:266(smbd_smb2_tree_connect)

smbd_smb2_tree_connect: couldn't find service //172.16.37.96

[2016/12/26 22:15:35.239004, 50, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0), class=tevent] ../lib/util/tevent_debug.c:66(samba_tevent_debug)

s3_tevent: Schedule immediate event "tevent_req_trigger": 0x56007af6bd80

[2016/12/26 22:15:35.239021, 50, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0), class=tevent] ../lib/util/tevent_debug.c:66(samba_tevent_debug)

s3_tevent: Cancel immediate event 0x56007af6bd80 "tevent_req_trigger"

[2016/12/26 22:15:35.239035, 10, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] ../source3/smbd/smb2_server.c:2789(smbd_smb2_request_error_ex)

smbd_smb2_request_error_ex: idx[1] status[NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME] || at ../source3/smbd/smb2_tcon.c:135

[2016/12/26 22:15:35.239053, 10, pid=605906, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] ../source3/smbd/smb2_server.c:2680(smbd_smb2_request_done_ex)

smbd_smb2_request_done_ex: idx[1] status[NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME] body[8] dyn[yes:1] at ../source3/smbd/smb2_server.c:2837



b、Something abnormal may also be observed in the wireshark:

the tree connect requests of the normal case may follow like this order:

Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$

Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\sharedfolder1

Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\sharedfolder2







the tree connect requests of the abnormal case may follow like this order:

Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$

Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96

Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96







3) Confused

I am confused about the abnormal facts above and have some questions:

When and Why does the windows 7 sometimes send a pure ip address tree connect request (like \\x.x.x.x) to the samba server after the IPC$ request?

Is it fine for the samba 4.3.11 to accept the pure ip address tree connect request?

Is this really a client-related phenomenon?

Are there any solutions about this problem?





Thanks

Best regards!









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Gaiseric Vandal via samba

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Dec 27, 2016, 10:40:02 AM12/27/16
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Is the samba server a domain controller? Is this a classic domain or an
Active Directory domain.

If you are using a classic domain you probably want a WINS server
configured. I find it works better if the primary domain controller
is also the WINS server. In a classic domain, keep the "smb
ports" as the default ( "smb ports = 445 139.") What is the "max
protocol" version set ? I had trouble with SMB2 so I set "max
protocol = NT1."

Do you have forward and reverse DNS entries for all servers ("A" host
and "PTR" records.)

I also found that connections to "myservername.mydomain.com\myshare"
would be treated differently on windows 7 clients that connections to
"myservername\myshare" in a classic domain. If the Samba domain name
is "MYDOMAIN" then connections to "myservername.mydomain.com" would
result in a conflict of the samba domain name with the DNS domain name.
This caused problems with Microsoft Excel and Powerpoint not trusting
documents from an "insecure" source.

Chenyehua via samba

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Dec 29, 2016, 5:10:03 AM12/29/16
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Thanks for your attention, Gaiseric.
Sorry , but I had a little confused. Did you mean that the problem was something relevant with the DNS? However in my impression, I might not do anything about the DNS.

I have some clues that might be helped:
1) First of all, my samba server version set is "max protocol = SMB2", and the final protocol according to the negotiation result is smb2.10. The problem is more likely to appear when the authentication changes(like user->ldap) or the password changes.
2)The direct fact that leading to the failure may be the bad tree connect request with the format of "\\x.x.x.x", which should be "\\x.x.x.x\xx" required by SMB2 protocol
3)So my key questions are:
a、When and why does the windows 7 sometimes sends the tree connect request (like \\x.x.x.x, which is not accepted by SMB2 protocol) to the samba server?
b、Is this a win7 bug or a problem with the relevant options set? Or anything else?
c、How to solve this problem?

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Gaiseric Vandal via samba

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Dec 29, 2016, 9:50:03 AM12/29/16
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It seems like you have two problems going on at once with your server

1. User authentication following a change to LDAP (as per other
posts)
2. Accessing shares


I suggest you resolve your LDAP backend issues first.


In Windows, the "net view" and "net use" commands may help with
diagnosing problems.

I don't know if Samba tries to do a reverse DNS lookup on the IP
addresses of the client PC's. I try to make sure I have DNS entries
for all system even DHCP clients (e.g.
dhcpclient-1...@mydomain.com.)


What is your "name resolve order" parameter set to ? I think the
default is as follows

name resolve order = host wins bcast


My issues with SMB2 was that I could get the first network connection
from a Windows 7 PC or Windows 2008 server to a samba server share BUT
seconndary connections would fail. I would try downgrading to NT1 ,
making sure everything works, then switching back to SMB2.

L.P.H. van Belle via samba

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Dec 30, 2016, 3:50:03 AM12/30/16
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> the tree connect requests of the abnormal case may follow like this order:
>
> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$
>
> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96
>
> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96


After the "badlock" patches, MS applies some checks.
( and this is default as of windows server 2008)

1) make user HOSTNAME and IP are correct in DNS. And hosts file.
2) Dont use \\hostname or \\ip if you dont have a REVERSE dns setup.
3) use \\hostname.domain.tld

4) If you want to use \\hostname then make user DNS A and PTR records are there. ( so the hostname resolves back to ) \\hostname.domain.tld

Now point 4. If you setup like this and you really correct.
\\ip
\\hostname
\\hostname.domain.tld


Will all work by default if you logged in with a domain joined pc and user.
Its all in nameing and DNS related problems.

Greetz,

Louis

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: samba [mailto:samba-...@lists.samba.org] Namens Gaiseric Vandal
> via samba
> Verzonden: donderdag 29 december 2016 15:42
> Aan: Chenyehua
> CC: 'sa...@lists.samba.org'
> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] ??????: Is the "\\x.x.x.x" type tree connect


> request a client related feature?
>

> > a???When and why does the windows 7 sometimes sends the tree connect


> request (like \\x.x.x.x, which is not accepted by SMB2 protocol) to the
> samba server?

> > b???Is this a win7 bug or a problem with the relevant options set? Or
> anything else?
> > c???How to solve this problem???
> >
> > -----????????????-----
> > ?????????: samba [mailto:samba-...@lists.samba.org] ?????? Gaiseric
> Vandal via samba
> > ????????????: 2016???12???27??? 23:32
> > ?????????: sa...@lists.samba.org
> > ??????: Re: [Samba] Is the "\\x.x.x.x" type tree connect request a


> client related feature?
> >
> > Is the samba server a domain controller? Is this a classic domain or an
> Active Directory domain.
> >
> > If you are using a classic domain you probably want a WINS server
> > configured. I find it works better if the primary domain controller
> > is also the WINS server. In a classic domain, keep the "smb
> > ports" as the default ( "smb ports = 445 139.") What is the "max
> > protocol" version set ? I had trouble with SMB2 so I set "max
> > protocol = NT1."
> >
> > Do you have forward and reverse DNS entries for all servers ("A" host
> and "PTR" records.)
> >
> > I also found that connections to "myservername.mydomain.com\myshare"
> > would be treated differently on windows 7 clients that connections to
> > "myservername\myshare" in a classic domain. If the Samba domain name
> > is "MYDOMAIN" then connections to "myservername.mydomain.com" would
> result in a conflict of the samba domain name with the DNS domain name.
> > This caused problems with Microsoft Excel and Powerpoint not trusting
> documents from an "insecure" source.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/27/16 05:44, Chenyehua via samba wrote:
> >> Hi folks
> >>
> >> I face a problem when using the samba share, Here is the detail:
> >>
> >> 1) Phenomenon
> >>
> >> In windows 7, sometimes, I type the samba server ip address and
> >> can see the shared folder. (the samba version is 4.3.11)
> >>

> >> a???However when I try to open the shared folder, it fails with a


> windows error message like “please check the spelling of the name, or some
> problem may related to the network”, and returns the error code
> 0x80070035(cannot find the network path).
> >>
> >> The shared folder may be opened successfully in a while. Or it will
> >> always fail in a long period with the error returned above(not sure if
> >> it will automatically recover finally)
> >>

> >> b???The problem in a may be client-related and occasionally appeared.


> At
> >> some other windows 7 environments, it may never happen(at least I have
> >> tried dozens of times, but it turns out normal each time)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) Analysis
> >>

> >> a??? Something abnormal can be found in the samba log as below:

> >> b???Something abnormal may also be observed in the wireshark:


> >>
> >> the tree connect requests of the normal case may follow like this
> order:
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\sharedfolder1
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\sharedfolder2
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> the tree connect requests of the abnormal case may follow like this
> order:
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96\IPC$
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96
> >>
> >> Tree connect request Tree \\172.16.37.96
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >> …
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 3) Confused
> >>
> >> I am confused about the abnormal facts above and have some questions:
> >>
> >> When and Why does the windows 7 sometimes send a pure ip address tree
> connect request (like \\x.x.x.x) to the samba server after the IPC$
> request?
> >>
> >> Is it fine for the samba 4.3.11 to accept the pure ip address tree
> connect request?
> >>
> >> Is this really a client-related phenomenon?
> >>
> >> Are there any solutions about this problem?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Best regards!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> >>

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> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
> >>
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> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
> >>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
> >> ?????????

Chenyehua via samba

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Jan 22, 2017, 5:10:03 AM1/22/17
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Thanks for your reply, Louis
However, I am still blocked by this problem now. !-_-
I tried to set the samba server as the DNS server and visit the shared folder by input "\\aaa.bb.com" at windows 7 client. In some cases it works and will not fail.
However the similar abnormal phenomenon also occasionally happens (especially at changing the authentication, such as local to ldap):
1) I can pass the authentication and see the shared folder, but when I try to open the folder , it fails with a windows error message like "cannot find the route to the network". It may recover to normal later (means I can open that folder)
2) I have collected the wireshark record and find it may due to the same reason: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
Part records in the Wireshark:
> Tree connect request Tree\\aaa.bb.com\IPC$
> Tree connect response : SUCCESS
> Tree connect request Tree \\aaa.bb.com
> Tree connect response : NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
> Tree connect request Tree \\aaa.bb.com
Tree connect response : NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
...
...

In your last email, you mentioned that "after the "badlock" patches, MS applies some checks. ".
1) Do you mean that sending "\\serverpath" type tree connect request is some kind of check sent by windows 7 relevant to the badlock patches? And What does this check for?
2) Are those checks reasonable and normal? As they have affected the normal use of the samba share in my case.
3) Are there any solutions to my problem?
4) the badlock bug -- do you mean the bug which was discovered by Stefan Metzmacher, disclosed in 2016-04-12, and referenced by CVE-2016-2118 for samba, CVE-2016-0128/ MS16-047 for windows ?

Thanks
Best wishes

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Rowland Penny via samba

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Though there have been references to individual smb.conf lines, it
seems that the full smb.conf hasn't been posted. From what has been
posted, I still don't know how Samba is being run, so I think the next
step is for the OP to post their full smb.conf.

Rowland

Chenyehua via samba

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Feb 8, 2017, 7:30:03 AM2/8/17
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Thanks for your response, Rowland.
Sorry for the late reply.
Here is my smb.conf:

[global]
workgroup = grouptest1

server string = %h server (Samba NAS)

dns proxy = no

log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m

max log size = 10000

syslog = 0

panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d

server role = standalone server

obey pam restrictions = yes

unix password sync = yes

passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .

pam password change = yes
map to guest = bad password

usershare allow guests = yes
max protocol = SMB3
large readwrite = yes
use sendfile = yes
aio read size = 1024
oplocks = no
deadtime = 10
aio write behind = true
load printers = no
clustering = yes
idmap config *:backend = tdb2
store dos attributes = yes
vfs objects = acl_xattr
idmap config *:range = 1000000-1999999
acl_xattr:ignore system acls = yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=131072 SO_SNDBUF=131072
netbios name = netaaa1
ctdbd socket = /var/run/ctdb/ctdbd.socket
log level = 2
security = user

Best regards!

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Ok, this is a standalone server, so I suggest you remove these lines:

idmap config *:backend = tdb2
idmap config *:range = 1000000-1999999
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=131072 SO_SNDBUF=131072

But I think your problem is being caused by this line (and possibly fat
fingers):

map to guest = bad password

If you read 'man smb.conf' you will find this:

· Bad Password - Means user logins with an invalid password are
treated as a guest login and mapped into the guest account.
Note that this can cause problems as it means that any user
incorrectly typing their password will be silently logged on as
"guest" - and will not know the reason they cannot access files
they think they should - there will have been no message given
to them that they got their password wrong. Helpdesk services
will hate you if you set the map to guest parameter this way
:-).

This means if the users windows password isn't the same as the one on
the Samba server, they will get logged in, but as the 'Guest' user.

Chenyehua via samba

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Well, I have changed the line "map to guest = bad password" to "map to guest = bad user"
However the problem still exists:
1) I can pass the authentication and see the shared folder, but when I try to open the folder , it fails with a windows error message like "cannot find the route to the network". It may recover to normal later (means I can open that folder)
2) I have collected the wireshark record and find that windows 7 keeps sending unacceptable format("\\server", lack "\share") tree connect request until it recovers to normal:
> Tree connect request Tree\\aaa.bb.com\IPC$
> Tree connect response : SUCCESS
> Tree connect request Tree \\aaa.bb.com
> Tree connect response : NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
> Tree connect request Tree \\aaa.bb.com
Tree connect response : NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
...
...
3) Louis once mentioned that it may due to the check after applying the MS "bad lock" patch. I am confused about this and doubt why windows 7 will send the unacceptable "\\server" format tree connect request to check.
4) The "\\server" format tree connect request may not meet the smb2 protocol request:(lack "\share")
"The SMB2 TREE_CONNECT Request MUST be initialized as follows:
 The target share path, including server name, in the format "\\server\share", is copied into the Buffer field of the request. PathOffset and PathLength MUST be set to describe the location and length of the target share path in the request."
--- extracted from "[MS-SMB2]:Server Message Block (SMB) Protocol Versions 2 and 3"
Is this reasonable?

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