[Samba] samba 4 AD and master browser

Trenta sis

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Jun 20, 2016, 12:20:03 PM6/20/16

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Hi,

I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and we
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba 4 AD.
I have searched some info and I have found:
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?

The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the netbios
server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We would like to
add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to be a
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
developer time just floating around).

"

and

https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29

It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from samba
3 nt domain?

Thanks
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Rowland penny

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Jun 20, 2016, 12:50:03 PM6/20/16

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On 20/06/16 17:14, Trenta sis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and we
> detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba 4 AD.
> I have searched some info and I have found:
> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
> "
> Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
> Samba AD environment?
>
> The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the netbios
> server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We would like to
> add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to be a
> personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
> developer time just floating around).
>
> "
>
> and
>
> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29
>
>
> It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
> recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from samba
> 3 nt domain?
>
> Thanks

Why do you *need* this feature ? Microsoft is moving away from network
browsing. Active Directory uses DNS instead of TCP/IP, so you should get
used to navigating to shares via DNS name.

Rowland

Trenta sis

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Jun 20, 2016, 1:00:03 PM6/20/16

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Tried with a windows 2008 r2 AD master brouser is available, microsoft is
migrating to what option?

2016-06-20 18:49 GMT+02:00 Trenta sis <trent...@gmail.com>:

> First of all, thanks for you answer.
>
> "Problem" is that our users are using this feature, and if we can keep
> this should be the best option to ensure that our user have detecte any
> difference with samba 3 and samba 4...
>
> Other options, it could be bia gpo add a shortcut to computer in desktop,
> to emulate/simulate same feature, user normally only use one machine,
> fileserver... It is possible?
>
> Thanks

Trenta sis

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Jun 20, 2016, 1:00:03 PM6/20/16

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First of all, thanks for you answer.

"Problem" is that our users are using this feature, and if we can keep this
should be the best option to ensure that our user have detecte any
difference with samba 3 and samba 4...

Other options, it could be bia gpo add a shortcut to computer in desktop,
to emulate/simulate same feature, user normally only use one machine,
fileserver... It is possible?

Thanks

2016-06-20 18:14 GMT+02:00 Trenta sis <trent...@gmail.com>:

Rowland penny

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Jun 20, 2016, 1:50:03 PM6/20/16

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On 20/06/16 17:51, Trenta sis wrote:
> Tried with a windows 2008 r2 AD master brouser is available, microsoft is
> migrating to what option?
>
>

You can ask as much as you like, but I don't think network browsing with
a Samba AD DC is going to happen soon. This topic has raised its head
fairly often, ever since Samba 4 came out approx 4 years ago.

If you really must have this feature, then I am sure that a patch to
implement it would be very welcome.

Rowland

Trenta sis

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Jun 21, 2016, 2:40:03 AM6/21/16

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Hi,

Thanks for your information, I'll try other options

Thanks

mathias dufresne

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Jun 21, 2016, 10:40:02 AM6/21/16

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Just run some samba as file server, or perhaps you can even just run nmbd
on another host than on your DC.
That host running nmbd will participate to browsing election, it should win
election if you ask for it in smb.conf. Only DC won't appear in network
neighborhood, which is not an issue as even your users loves waste your
company time in searching in network neighborhood, they have nothing to do
on DC.

Cheers,

mathias

Trenta sis

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Jun 22, 2016, 5:20:03 AM6/22/16

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Thans for you answer!

I'll try to install samba as file server...
Thanks

David STIEVENARD

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Jun 22, 2016, 10:30:02 PM6/22/16

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Hi Trenta,

I agree with Rowland, not relying on network neighborhood seems to be
not so new (at least for me).

In a company (7000+ users) I worked for in the past (in 2000), they were
using NT domains and then AD :
- users didn't choose which share they could connect to, it was
automatically mapped for them
- and as a network administrator dns resolution was the standard and
netbios was not welcomed

You might have to consider a scenario in your project where you change
to ways your users access to shares.

Be strong !! :)
DS