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Gordon Stewart

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Dec 5, 2001, 11:43:16 AM12/5/01

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I have installed webmin-0-92 RPM using the command: rpm --install
webmin-0-92, This worked fine, but when I query the database by rpm -q
webmin* there are no entrys. When I try and remove it, it tells me that it
is not there. How can I remove it to install webmin-0-93. If i had
installed it by rpm -Uvh webmin-0-92 then I would be able to do: rpm -q
webmin* . Why is this and can anyone tell me how to remove webmin-0-92?

I am more concerned that I can not erase webmin-0-92 as it tells me that it
is not installed. When all of the config files are there and I can use
webmin. I have install webmin before using rpm -Uvh webmin-0-92 and removed
it with the command rpm -e webmin and it worked fine. The only difference I
see is that I installed it using rpm --install webmin-0-92 which DOES NOT
update the database as it should.

Thanks

Gordon

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Stefan Siegel

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Dec 5, 2001, 11:48:11 AM12/5/01

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Es schrieb Gordon Stewart:

> I have installed webmin-0-92 RPM using the command: rpm --install
> webmin-0-92, This worked fine, but when I query the database by rpm -q
> webmin* there are no entrys. When I try and remove it, it tells me that it
> is not there. How can I remove it to install webmin-0-93. If i had
> installed it by rpm -Uvh webmin-0-92 then I would be able to do: rpm -q
> webmin* . Why is this and can anyone tell me how to remove webmin-0-92?

You have to remove the asterisk. Wildcard signs are not allowed in rpm
queries. So "rpm -q webmin" should give you "webmin-0-92".
a "rpm -e webmin" should remove the package.

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Aaron Gaudio

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And lo, upon Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 12:16:53PM -0500, Jeff Johnson spaketh th=
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> The above is perfectly correct, but let me supply a technical correction.
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> Wild cards, more technically, regex's and/or globs through fnmatch, are
> permitted on the command line in rpm-4.0.3, try
> rpm -qa XFree*
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> I hasten to point out that I don't believe that this functionality
> is going to be useful at all on the rpm CLI. The arguments to rpm -qa
> are package names, not files, so the regex/glob expressions are applied
> to database keys, not files on path, and there is little reason to
> believe that I can "fake" a file system onto a database retrieval key
> through regex/glob sufficiently well to have implemented useful and/or
> intuitive functionality.

Would this work?
rpm -qa 'XFree*'
That would prevent the shell from expanding the '*' character, and=20
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pattern matching to work properly?

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Bernd Petrovitsch

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Dec 5, 2001, 12:14:48 PM12/5/01

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In message <000001c17dab$b63ec090$cc13...@net800.co.uk>, "Gordon Stewart" wrot
e:

>I have installed webmin-0-92 RPM using the command: rpm --install
>webmin-0-92, This worked fine, but when I query the database by rpm -q
>webmin* there are no entrys. When I try and remove it, it tells me that it

Do `rpm -qa | grep webmin`

>is not there. How can I remove it to install webmin-0-93. If i had

With `rpm -e webmin`
Probably.

>installed it by rpm -Uvh webmin-0-92 then I would be able to do: rpm -q
>webmin* . Why is this and can anyone tell me how to remove webmin-0-92?

`rpm -U webmin-0-93.i386.rpm` (or whatever the name of the file ist).

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Jeff Johnson

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Dec 5, 2001, 12:24:02 PM12/5/01

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On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:46:34PM +0100, Stefan Siegel wrote:
> Es schrieb Gordon Stewart:

> > I have installed webmin-0-92 RPM using the command: rpm --install
> > webmin-0-92, This worked fine, but when I query the database by rpm -q
> > webmin* there are no entrys. When I try and remove it, it tells me that it
> > is not there. How can I remove it to install webmin-0-93. If i had
> > installed it by rpm -Uvh webmin-0-92 then I would be able to do: rpm -q
> > webmin* . Why is this and can anyone tell me how to remove webmin-0-92?
>

> You have to remove the asterisk. Wildcard signs are not allowed in rpm
> queries. So "rpm -q webmin" should give you "webmin-0-92".
> a "rpm -e webmin" should remove the package.
>

The above is perfectly correct, but let me supply a technical correction.

Wild cards, more technically, regex's and/or globs through fnmatch, are

permitted on the command line in rpm-4.0.3, try
rpm -qa XFree*

I hasten to point out that I don't believe that this functionality

is going to be useful at all on the rpm CLI. The arguments to rpm -qa
are package names, not files, so the regex/glob expressions are applied
to database keys, not files on path, and there is little reason to
believe that I can "fake" a file system onto a database retrieval key
through regex/glob sufficiently well to have implemented useful and/or
intuitive functionality.

The intended use for the implementation is in the rpmlib API, as it's now
possible to use a database iterator with a complex, multitag query match,
using either regex's or globs/fnmatch, to filter the headers retrieved
based on tag content.

This may someday work it's way into --queryformat syntax, but I still
don't believe that I'm ever gonna be able to document that suffciently
well to make even that useful, as --queryformat seems to be a big mystery
to most people I talk to.

If the above doesn't make sense, don't worry, be happy, and continue using
rpm -qa | grep 'XFree*'
which is the Right Answer for the rpm CLI.

73 de Jeff

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Bernd Petrovitsch

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Dec 5, 2001, 12:29:22 PM12/5/01

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In message <2001120512...@eastham.redhat.com>, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>If the above doesn't make sense, don't worry, be happy, and continue using
> rpm -qa | grep 'XFree*'
>which is the Right Answer for the rpm CLI.

The * there has a different semantics (namely the usual reg-exp one)
then in the file globbing case done by a shell.

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Jeff Johnson

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Dec 5, 2001, 12:43:41 PM12/5/01

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On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 06:28:04PM +0100, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> In message <2001120512...@eastham.redhat.com>, Jeff Johnson wrote:

> >If the above doesn't make sense, don't worry, be happy, and continue using
> > rpm -qa | grep 'XFree*'
> >which is the Right Answer for the rpm CLI.
>

> The * there has a different semantics (namely the usual reg-exp one)
> then in the file globbing case done by a shell.

Correct. Be happy :-)

Jeff Johnson

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Dec 5, 2001, 1:10:14 PM12/5/01

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On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 12:46:47PM -0500, Aaron Gaudio wrote:
> And lo, upon Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 12:16:53PM -0500, Jeff Johnson spaketh thusly:

>
> >
> > The above is perfectly correct, but let me supply a technical correction.
> >
> > Wild cards, more technically, regex's and/or globs through fnmatch, are
> > permitted on the command line in rpm-4.0.3, try
> > rpm -qa XFree*
> >
> > I hasten to point out that I don't believe that this functionality
> > is going to be useful at all on the rpm CLI. The arguments to rpm -qa
> > are package names, not files, so the regex/glob expressions are applied
> > to database keys, not files on path, and there is little reason to
> > believe that I can "fake" a file system onto a database retrieval key
> > through regex/glob sufficiently well to have implemented useful and/or
> > intuitive functionality.
>

> Would this work?
> rpm -qa 'XFree*'
> That would prevent the shell from expanding the '*' character, and

> since you say wild cards are supported by 4.03, shouldn't that allow rpm's
> pattern matching to work properly?

IMHO, there's no way to jigger up wild cards for use by rpm queries. The
implementation is there on the CLI only to demonstrate the functionality,
nothing more.

*Please* be happy. :-)

73 de Jeff

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