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redhat-digest Digest Volume 99 : Issue 224

Today's Topics:
RE: MD5 Passwords
RE: Linux_via_Windows_Proxy
Re: Linux_via_Windows_Proxy
Re: again How to get the block size of the disk
Re: MD5 Passwords
video depth
Re: video depth
crontab help
Re: PHP3/Apache support for MySQL
Hassles with Redhat 5.2 -> 6.1 upgrade (more PPP whining) [LONG]
Re: crontab help
Re: find-command
RH 6.1 install (upgrading from 6.0)
Re: crontab help
Re: WindowMaker and GNOME
telnet, rlogin, and ssh
Re: telnet, rlogin, and ssh

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:37:13 +1100
From: Jamie Carl <ja...@p-c-s.com.au>
To: "'redha...@redhat.com'" <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: MD5 Passwords
Message-ID: <2158362CE743D311859...@pcsnt.p-c-s.com.au>
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Ok, for starters i have no choice. This security package, which is
called SRP (Secure Remote Passwords) is being used as part an internet
solution my company is deploying. The boss wants it working, so it's
my job to get it working. And don't anyone suggest that I try and
change his mind, I gave up on trying things like that long ago. But
the main reason we are doing it is because the windows client that
is being used supports the SRP encrypted telnet sessions.

I've also just been told that the reason md5 has to be disabled is
because the chk_pwd program does not understand the pam password
scheme yet. Now, wot package this chk_pwd program is part of, I
don't know, as i don't think it's part of SRP. And as far as i can
tell, the su, login and passwd programs that are part of SRP still
support md5 and are only replaced so that added support for SRP
encrypted passwords can be added. These passwords are also kept
in a separate file and used in parallel with /etc/passwd .
/etc/passwd is not replaced.

Also, SRP does support FTP sessions as well. Hope this makes things
a little clearer.

Jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Mead [mailto:a...@ipat.com]
Sent: Friday, 5 November 1999 9:03
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: RE: MD5 Passwords


At 02:41 PM 11/4/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Well, just so u know, and i'm no security buff, but the package
>doesn't support md5 passwords during the installation (or something
>like that).. But when I install the SECURITY package it replaces
>programs such as 'su', 'login', 'passwd' and all such related files
>with SECURE versions, which actually use 1024-bit encrypted passwords.
>It even replaces in.telnetd so that the telnet connection itself is
>encrypted. But it needs to be able to read the existing passwords
>to be able to update them to the new encrypted ones from what i can
>gather.

OK, I'll bite. What's this security package for?

I don't think anyone questions the security of MD5 passwords against
ordinary crackers (i.e., those without super computers). It is true
that
passwords are the most common "weak link" but this is typically through
weak passwords (e..g, joe:joe) or sniffing. So I don't understand why
you
want to replace su, login, passwd, etc.

Now the new telnet client (to thwart sniffing) sounds neat but SSH seems
to
be shaping up to a standard and also seems to be widely used. It is not
terribly expensive and free for non-commercial use. And there is a
freeware version in the works. And SSH2 supports FTP (telnet can be as
secure as you like, if unencrypted user FTP connections are allowed
you'll
still be vulnerable). And you realize that the telnet client has to
support the encryption? So I guess you'll only be able to telnet in
from
other Linux (UNIX?) machines that support that package.

-Alan
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:43:07 +1100
From: Jamie Carl <ja...@p-c-s.com.au>
To: "'redha...@redhat.com'" <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: Linux_via_Windows_Proxy
Message-ID: <2158362CE743D311859...@pcsnt.p-c-s.com.au>
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Well, the first thing i would suggest is, take the second NIC out
of the windows machine and put it in the Linux box. That way you
can setup u're ASDL link and IP masqarading and use the Linux box
for access to the internet from your other machines. I say this
because Sygate sucks ass.

That being sed, I currently use sygate at home but for other reasons
besides internet access. Unfortunately my gateway MUST be a windows
machine. Anywayz, i have no problems running my linux machine
through the sygate server. I guess you just have to make sure that
TCP/IP is configured correctly on your linux box and that the default
gateway is set to the IP address of the machine running sygate.

Jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: li...@hglee.com [mailto:li...@hglee.com]
Sent: Friday, 5 November 1999 12:53
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Linux_via_Windows_Proxy


Greetings,

I was wondering if anyone has tried to use a linux box from behind a
Windows firewall. I've been out of the "Linux loop" for a couple of
months, and I was hoping to pick it up again.

Here's the scenario. Small, home LAN (8 machines). ADSL connection to
one Win98 box equipped with two NICs. All other MS machines can both
see the Win98 box (a.k.a., the firewall) and access the Internet
(because the firewall is connected to the ADSL modem *and* the LAN hub).

Question:

I'm using Sygate as the modem-sharing software to provide Internet
access for the non-firewall machines. What sort of
mechanism/device/software/hack do I need to allow the Linux machine
(stock RH 6.0 on a 486 machine) to access the Internet vci? (I should
also tell you that the LAN machines have statically addressed IP
addresses.)


I hope I've not overlooked anything. Thanks in advance for your help.
(Private replies are encouraged.)


Sincerely,

-HGLEE


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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 14:09:59 -0800
From: Steve Dixon <st...@dpn.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Linux_via_Windows_Proxy
Message-ID: <38220437...@dpn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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set the linux boxes up with a gateway of the private ip address of the
machine with the two nic cards. in other words, we used a linux box with
2 nics. external being on the internet and internal being on the private
network(192.168.2.0). we set all of our clients with a gateway of
192.168.2.9 so that they can reach the outside world. hope it helps.

li...@hglee.com wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has tried to use a linux box from behind a Windows firewall. I've been out of the "Linux loop" for a couple of months, and I was hoping to pick it up again.
>
> Here's the scenario. Small, home LAN (8 machines). ADSL connection to one Win98 box equipped with two NICs. All other MS machines can both see the Win98 box (a.k.a., the firewall) and access the Internet (because the firewall is connected to the ADSL modem *and* the LAN hub).
>
> Question:
>
> I'm using Sygate as the modem-sharing software to provide Internet access for the non-firewall machines. What sort of mechanism/device/software/hack do I need to allow the Linux machine (stock RH 6.0 on a 486 machine) to access the Internet vci? (I should also tell you that the LAN machines have statically addressed IP addresses.)
>
> I hope I've not overlooked anything. Thanks in advance for your help. (Private replies are encouraged.)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> -HGLEE
>
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:40:41 -0600
From: Steve Borho <st...@borho.myip.org>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: again How to get the block size of the disk
Message-ID: <1999110417...@borho.myip.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 09:55:39AM +0000, Thomas Ribbrock Design/DEG" wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 10:46:08AM -0700, Jiang XU wrote:
> > What I need is to get such information through the function call, not through
> > the command line. So that I can put it in my program. My Program needs that.
>
> I'm not 100% sure, but might "stat()" ("man stat" for details) be what
> you need?
> Under Solaris, there's also "getmntent()" and related functions, though
> I'm not sure whether they exist under Linux.

I had to do this for a dock app I wrote a couple years ago. The stat()
function call will return a structure with:

struct stat
{
dev_t st_dev; /* device */
ino_t st_ino; /* inode */
mode_t st_mode; /* protection */
nlink_t st_nlink; /* number of hard links */
uid_t st_uid; /* user ID of owner */
gid_t st_gid; /* group ID of owner */
dev_t st_rdev; /* device type (if inode device) */
off_t st_size; /* total size, in bytes */
unsigned long st_blksize; /* blocksize for filesystem I/O */
unsigned long st_blocks; /* number of blocks allocated */
time_t st_atime; /* time of last access */
time_t st_mtime; /* time of last modification */
time_t st_ctime; /* time of last change */
};

If I recall right, you have to stat the filesystem mount point.

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:40:03 -0800
From: Gordon Messmer <yin...@eburg.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: MD5 Passwords
Message-ID: <38221953...@eburg.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Alan Mead wrote:
> Now the new telnet client (to thwart sniffing) sounds neat but SSH seems to
> be shaping up to a standard and also seems to be widely used. It is not
> terribly expensive and free for non-commercial use. And there is a
> freeware version in the works.

Just thought I'd throw out that OpenSSH is available and WORKS. It's
based on OpenBSD's ssh, which is based on the last free version of ssh.

Look at http://violet.ibs.com.au/openssh/ for the code. As an added
bonus, openssh supports PAM, so you don't have to kill yourself over MD5
passwords :)

MSG

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:49:27 -0800 (PST)
From: matt boex <chimc...@yahoo.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: video depth
Message-ID: <19991104234927....@web601.yahoomail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

i just installed rh6.1 and am having trouble
increasing the depth on my X desktop. i have tried
altering XF86Config depth entries with no joy. problem
is my monitor was not on the list of monitors when
installing. i just selected generic. is there a way
i can re-install just the monitor without
re-installing the whole o.s. better yet, how can i
increase the depth without re-installing anything.

any help is greatly appreciated.

matt.


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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:56:37 -0800
From: Steve Dixon <st...@dpn.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: video depth
Message-ID: <38221D35...@dpn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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try XF86Setup.

matt boex wrote:
>
> i just installed rh6.1 and am having trouble
> increasing the depth on my X desktop. i have tried
> altering XF86Config depth entries with no joy. problem
> is my monitor was not on the list of monitors when
> installing. i just selected generic. is there a way
> i can re-install just the monitor without
> re-installing the whole o.s. better yet, how can i
> increase the depth without re-installing anything.
>
> any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> matt.
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:01:43 -0500
From: Aaron Walker <amwa...@gate.net>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: crontab help
Message-ID: <38221E67...@gate.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

hello,

does anyone know the format of crontab, or know where I can find such
info? I did have it in my Running Linux book, but it has been borrowed
out to a friend, so...

TIA,
Aaron

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:07:22 -0800
From: "Scott Tyson" <tys...@deepwell.com>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: PHP3/Apache support for MySQL
Message-ID: <009a01bf2721$bbae9c90$d000...@pandesic.com>
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same here. ripped off the rpms and went to the tar balls. Not me
favorite thing to do but much less work.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Bearer <jbe...@liekar.com>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: PHP3/Apache support for MySQL


> I would just compile and install all three from source.
> That's what I did, works fine.
>
> -Jeff
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gene Wilburn [mailto:gwil...@home.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:55 PM
> > To: redha...@redhat.com
> > Subject: PHP3/Apache support for MySQL
> >
> >
> >
> > I've just spent a few months in FreeBSD (very nice BTW) and had no
> > problems using Apache/PHP3/MySQL. Now I'm back at Red Hat 6.1 and
I've
> > returned to Red Hat's RPM weirdness regarding MySQL.
> >
> > Is there an easy recipe for getting MySQL to work with RedHat RPMs
for
> > Apache/PHP3 or should I just rpm -e all this stuff and roll
> > from tarballs?
> >
> > Footnote question: why does Red Hat always make this highly
> > popular combo
> > hard to put together? Many of us were using MySQL on Red Hat
> > long before
> > RH decided to endorse Postgres. This Postgres bias is almost
> > as irritating
> > as RH's GNOME bias, but at least if offers KDE (somewhat
> > grudgingly) as an
> > option.
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Gene
> >
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:08:20 -0800
From: Joe Brenner <do...@kzsu.stanford.edu>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Hassles with Redhat 5.2 -> 6.1 upgrade (more PPP whining) [LONG]
Message-Id: <1999110500...@kzsu.stanford.edu>

Hey, anyone want to listen to a rant/whine about upgrading
from RedHat 5.2 to 6.1? Hint: PPP is involved.

Here goes: There I was, trying to get my DSL line working on
my machine (which dual boots between NT and Linux), and in
desperation, I decided that I might as well try upgrading
from RedHat 5.2 to 6.1. I'd held off on 6.0, because that
sounded like a mess to me, but now that 6.1 is out, I can
pretty much expect most of the problems will be fixed,
right? And at the very least, I ought to get a less buggy
version of Linuxconf with 6.1, and that by itself might turn
out to be part of the answer to my DSL problem.

Since I read this list, I knew that with an NT dual boot
machine, I should get the updated installer off of the
RedHat site. So I dutifully created the two floppies from
"boot-RHEA-1999_044.img" and "updates-RHEA-1999_045.img",
and followed the instructions to type in "linux updates" at
the "boot:" prompt, and discovered I needed another 100Mb of
space in my /usr partition.

(I keep meaning to buy an additional disk and just move the
/usr partion, but my SCSI interface has been flaky, and I
wasn't sure what kind of drive I should get, and you know
how it goes...)

So I puzzled over this for a while, and hit on the kludgey
little solution of moving some of the less critical stuff
from /usr (doc, info, src, and so on) to a newly created
/home/stash directory). I replaced the originals with
symlinks, and that seemed okay. So a day later I got to try
a 6.1 upgrade again. But by this time I'd forgotten the bit
about typing "linux updates", and some time later I realized
that I'd blown away NT from the Master Boot Record... my
machine now boots straight to lilo and into Linux.

And I start looking at my newly installed 6.1, and I find
that almost everything is broken, to varying degrees. On
the plus side, I suppose, I can still run X and emacs and so
on (I should be thankful for small favors)... here's a quick
listing of the larger lossages that I've noticed thus
far, in roughly the order I noticed them:

Can't boot to NT.

Alt-tab no longer works in AnotherLevel/fvwm2/fvwm95
(whatever you want to call it). It switches focus, but
doesn't do an autoraise.

Sound isn't working (I've got a soundblaster
AWE 32... not exactly rare).

PPP is dead ("modprobe: can't locate module
char-major-108").

Apache no longer starts at boot-up.

The SCSI interface is gone ("device not found").

I have to say I expected some problems like this, but the
sheer number of them was really depressing (has even
Microsoft ever released an "upgrade" as awful as this?).

So then I poked around with AnotherLevel a bit, trying to
fix the annoying Alt-Tab problem. Awhile back, I invented a
peculiar way of customizing AnotherLevel -- because there
doesn't seem to be any un-peculiar way to do it -- if you
care take a look at:

http://www.grin.net/~mirthless/web/doomhowto-customizeRedHat5x_052099.html

So it could be that the new version of AnotherLevel now has
files that are incompatible with my customized copies in my
home directory? I started doing diffs... and there are some
differences, but nothing that obviously leaps out as the
source of the problem.

I played with Enlightenment (using another account), to see
if it was getting useful yet. The short answer is "no".
Long answer: Alt-Tab works, but the order it cycles windows
through is still really bizarre, and Alt-Shift-Tab doesn't
cycle you back. I tried manually customizing this, adding
Alt-Shift-Tab as a shortcut, but that didn't take. And
there doesn't seem to be an analog of fvwm2's "Alt-Esc"
(which brings up a list of open windows). You're supposed
to grab your mouse to play with the tool bar, I guess (kids
these days, alla buncha gooey wimps! But I digress.
Slightly).

So, I conclude that a damaged AnotherLevel is still more
useful to me than the latest Enlightenment, and once again I
decide to stop playing with window managers and try and do
some useful work.

Except that first I have to fix some of the broken crap.
I decide to go after the PPP interface, since that'll get me
back out on the net where I can start poking around on the
web looking for help. (at least I knew that the PPP dialup
used to work, unlike the DSL line and my ethernet adapter,
which I expect may require some severe hassling around to
get up and running with linux).

Time to call tech support? Except that I went with
cheapbytes this time. I bought a box set of 5.1 and
immediately afterwards a box set of 5.2 (as a quick fix to a
missing driver problem), so I felt like I deserved a break.

And last time, all of my problems were declared to be neatly
outside the realm of "installation", so I didn't get
anything out of having the installation support. (If I
thought that RH's tech support would magically be able to
fix all these problems with a few phone calls, I would
gladly run out and spend another $150 on 6.1, but I have my
doubts...)

So, I started grepping around locally, and found the
obvious: the /usr/doc/ppp-2.3.10/README.linux file. It
mentions a couple of changes you may need to make to get the
new code to work.

In my current state of mind then, that pissed me off
enormously: this is a *known* problem. Redhat *knew* (or
really should have known) that PPP would break on upgrade.
Why didn't the upgrade process make the necessary changes to
keep it working?

Anyway, I did the obvious change to conf.modules, adding the
lines:

alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic

and it makes sense that this last line should clear up the
error message I was getting (if it can't find
char-major-108, adding an alternate name for it
could do the trick).

But this didn't work for me. No change in the error
message. So I tried the other thing mentioned in the
readme, and manually created the device:

mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0

But that didn't fix it either.

After a bunch of poking around, grepping through HOWTOs, man
pages, skimming through some source, looking at the files in
/lib/modules, I got increasingly confused.

At the risk of my non-existant reputation, allow me to
document some of my confusion:

The form of the error message didn't even change when I
added the alias. It kept telling me that it couldn't find
char-major-108 (shouldn't it have complained about
ppp_generic after I added the alias?). Could it be that I
had to do something special to get it to read the changes in
conf.modules? I went poking around looking for startup
scripts, refresh commands, I tried reboots, and so on. The
only think I could think of that I hadn't tried was "make
modules", and that didn't seem reasonable (I'm reading every
HOWTO that has the word "module" in it at this point, and
there's no mention of anything this extreme). So I started
thinking, how about I feed it a different module name? What
if I change ppp_generic to something, anything, else, maybe
I can at least get a different error message and confirm
that I'm doing something (this seems like one of my main
principles of debugging: "if you can't fix it, find an
interesting way to break it").

So, I figure I'll give it the name of some other existing
module. It actually took me some time to figure out how you
find out what the available modules are. "lsmod" shows you
the modules you have running, not the modules you can run.
Finally a remark in a HOWTO file confirmed that there's a
one-to-one correspondence between the object files in
/lib/modules and module names (think about that for a
moment... I know it seems obvious once you know it, but how
was I supposed to know? Couldn't it be that ppp.o, for
example, contained more than one ppp related module?).

This raised another interesting question. Where *are*
ppp_generic.o and ppp_async.o? Nowhere in the /lib/modules
tree, that's for sure... the only ppp* modules I've got are
ppp_deflate.o and ppp.o. (And the *.c files mentioned in
the Readme aren't in /usr/src, either...).

So just for the hell of it, I tried this:

alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_deflate
alias char-major-108 ppp

And I was very disappointed: I didn't get any new error
message. In fact I got no error messages at all. It
actually worked.

Hahahah. Of course it worked. Why wouldn't it? All I had
to do was RT*F*M, right? And squint my eyes and flip over
backwards. But outside of that, it was *easy* right?

But what the hell is going on? Am I running the *old* ppp
code (with the new kernel and c library... and it *works*?
Huh). Why wasn't the *new* code handed to me when I
upgraded (the upgrade *did* give me the new Readme). Was
this an attempt by RedHat to keep my ppp access from
breaking when I did the upgrade from 5.2? And if I *am*
running the old code, why *did* it break? Why did I need to
make any changes to /etc/conf.modules?

Whatever. I've got other problems now. Like unpacking
"bootpa22.zip" and playing with it to try and get my access
to NT back, and seeing what's wrong with my sound card, and
probably recompiling to see if the old Initio SCSI drivers
I've got will work now, and finding out why Apache isn't
working any more, and maybe I'll even get around to setting
up my DSL line, and *then* maybe I can actually use Linux to
do something instead of spending my life dicking around with
system administration.

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:12:09 -0500
From: "Julian Thomas" <j...@epix.net>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: crontab help
Message-Id: <1999110500...@lima.epix.net>

In <38221E67...@gate.net>, on 11/04/99
at 07:01 PM, Aaron Walker <amwa...@gate.net> typed:

>does anyone know the format of crontab, or know where I can find such
>info?

man 5 crontab

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:18:10 -0600
From: Steve Borho <st...@borho.myip.org>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: find-command
Message-ID: <1999110418...@borho.myip.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 11:20:16PM -0600, Mike Friedrichs wrote:
> I have a executable file called jstar in /usr/bin, but when I enter 'find
> / -iname j*' I receive the message 'not found'.
>
> Is there any obvious reasons why this command doesn't function as
> prescribed. This is on Redhat 5.2.

find / -iname "j*" -print

Two things:
1) GNU find is nice and doesn't require the -print argument to print the
results, but you should get in the habit of using it in case you run into
a non-GNU based Unix system.

2) Your shell is trying to expand j* before it runs find and is not
"finding" any matches in your current directory. Use quotes around
wildcards to pass them to 'find'

--
Steve Borho

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:22:37 -0500
From: "Rafael Munoz" <zo...@bellsouth.net>
To: "RedHat List" <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: RH 6.1 install (upgrading from 6.0)
Message-ID: <00e101bf2723$e9771f60$0105...@bellsouth.net>
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All,

Yesterday I bought the Standard Edition of RH 6.1 in order to upgrade my 6.0
installation, however, when I attempted to upgrade, I got an error regarding
mounting. After going to RH's web site I see that there is an issue with
the installer that comes with RH6.1 if there is an NTFS partition on the
system (which in my case, I DO have an NTFS partition). So I go ahead and
download the new boot .img and the updates .img files (upgrading from
CD-ROM). The instructions on the web page says to boot from the new .img
file and at the boot: prompt, to type "linux updates". I do this and it
starts loading vmlinuz and then it finishes, and the system starts booting,
however, when it gets to "running /sbin/loader", the CD is accessed, and
then it stops and nothing else happens. I do not get prompted to insert the
updates disk or anything - just hangs there!

Now, if I boot with the same disk, and DO NOT type in "linux updates", it
proceeds to boot just fine, passing the part where it got hung up ("running
/sbin/loader") before, BUT, obviously, I still have the same issue with
regards to the NTFS partition, so I am stuck presently.

Has anyone had any issues like this? I do have RH 6.0 installed, and since
RH 4.2, I have been upgrading without ANY issues, and this is the first time
I have had an actual upgrade issue with Red Hat's distribution. I hope I
can get some feedback from you before I decide to blow away the NTFS
partition, and then trying again (although from what I see on Usenet, there
are quite a few problems with the installation of RH 6.1).

Again, any help will be appreciated! Thanks in advanced...


Rafael
(zo...@bellsouth.net)

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:38:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Charles Galpin <cga...@lighthouse-software.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: crontab help
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.991104...@pooh.lhsw.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

man 5 crontab

will give you the format, but you might also fidn these two good reading

man cron
man crontab

hth
charle

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Aaron Walker wrote:

> hello,
>
> does anyone know the format of crontab, or know where I can find such
> info? I did have it in my Running Linux book, but it has been borrowed
> out to a friend, so...
k

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:52:26 -0600
From: r...@wierdlmpc.msci.memphis.edu
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: WindowMaker and GNOME
Message-ID: <1999110418...@moni.msci.memphis.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 04:28:04PM -0600, SBTM wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I just installed WindowMaker (I think its .60) and I am loving it. One
> problem though, do I have to go through GNOME to get to WindowMaker? Can I
> not choose it from the list like GNOME KDE Failsafe etc etc?
>
> Thankx.

Just use

#!/bin/bash
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker

in .xsession (make it executable).

Mate

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:04:56 -0500
From: Aaron Walker <amwa...@gate.net>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: telnet, rlogin, and ssh
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What are the main differences between telnet, rlogin, and ssh? Also,
where can I find server/client software for ssh?

Thanks,
Aaron

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:09:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Chuck Mead <ch...@moongroup.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: telnet, rlogin, and ssh
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.99110...@boss.moongroup.org>
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On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Aaron Walker said:

AW>What are the main differences between telnet, rlogin, and ssh? Also,
AW>where can I find server/client software for ssh?

ftp://ftp.replay.com has ssh stuff in rpm format and in source code or
pre-compiled binaries.

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