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Today's Topics:

1. RE: updating older os (Robert Finneran)
2. usb problems just started (Bret Hughes)
3. Re: iCalendar server (Bret Hughes)
4. Re: iCalendar server (Jonathan Bartlett)
5. Re: pop3 and imap suddenly very slow [OFF TOPIC QUESTION BACK TO TOM] (Edward Dekkers)
6. Re: usb problems just started (David Talkington)
7. Re: updating older os (Ed Wilts)
8. forcing fsck on ext3 devices on boot (BobH)
9. Re: Sendmail SMTP with Auth Howto?? (gary)
10. &.2: no 'Web page view' in nautilus (mj...@beaudesign.com)
11. RE: suprise lag (new development) (gabriel)
12. RE: suprise lag (new development) (gabriel)

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Message: 1
From: "Robert Finneran" <r...@digitalskyscrapers.com>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: updating older os
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:53:34 -0800
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

Hi Gabriel,

I'm not sure that up2date can even run on 6.2. It's clear that you would
need at least need an upgrade before you could use up2date for upgrades.

In this case, your better off either downloading the update rpm's from
redhat's ftp server: ftp://updates.redhat.com (or even better, use their
priority server, if you have access because the updates ftp server is always
very slow) and then applying the patches via commands like rpm -Fvh *.rpm.
You can accomplish both steps at once using rpm's built -in ftp features,
but I don't recommend it. I prefer to have the rpm's copied down first.

Note that these updates will likely require you to change lilo.conf and run
lilo because of the kernel updates. You will also have to deal with rpm
dependency issues but this isn't to hard to learn how to handle rpm
dependencies.

I'm also upgrading my 6.2 machine to see if the slow connect and other
networking issues go away.

Cheers!!

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-l...@redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-l...@redhat.com]On Behalf Of gabriel
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 3:09 PM
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: updating older os

well i thought that running up2date on my rh62 box might help me with my
latest problems so i went to the prompt as root and typed
"/usr/sbin/up2date -u"... only to realise it hasn't been installed on
this machine. so i went to my cd to install it, but the rpm tells me i
need the following installed:

pygnome is needed by up2date-1.13-1
pygtk is needed by up2date-1.13-1
rpm-python >= 3.0.4 is needed by up2date-1.13-1
usermode >= 1.15 is needed by up2date-1.13-1

and then to install "pygnome" i need:

pygtk = 0.6.4 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
gnome-libs is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libXpm.so.4 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libart_lgpl.so.2 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libaudiofile.so.0 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libesd.so.0 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libgdk_imlib.so.1 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libgnome.so.32 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libgnomesupport.so.0 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libgnomeui.so.32 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libgtkxmhtml.so.1 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1
libzvt.so.2 is needed by pygnome-1.0.51-1

etc. etc.
this machine doesn't even have X running, do i really need all this
gnome stuff? and if so, isn't there an easier way than single-handedly
running each one, looking for dependencies and runningthose, going back
etc?

it's rh62 on a sparc64
thanks people

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Message: 2
Subject: usb problems just started
From: Bret Hughes <bhu...@elevating.com>
To: redhat-list <redha...@redhat.com>
Date: 17 Jan 2002 18:09:03 -0600
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

My Sony laptop running 7.2 with a 2.4.9-13 kernel from winfor lin has
been working pretty well for several weeks. Last night, after going
home and turing the machine on a lot of weird stuff started happening.

evolution would not finish coming up, nor mozilla. ps -axf showed
several processes with children running netstat -in that appeared to be
hung.

ifconfig hung.

reboot from command line hung while going down after klogd shutdown.

same thing on cold start.

several tries, booting into rl 3 finally seemed to bring the machine up.

Several problems getting it to boot this morning at work. Finally got
it to come up with a combination of booting into singleuser mode and and
then telinit 5. Or was it 3 first? I forget.

Anyway now /var/log/messages has a bunch of these:

Jan 17 17:02:17 bretsony kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame#
308
Jan 17 17:03:24 bretsony kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame#
1692

Any ideas what would cause this and where to look? I have disabled
several of the services and am about to reboot but wanted to send this
incase someone says oh yeah you need to tweak the conooter setting in
/etc/flibergidit.

I will let the list know the results of my reboot soon. I hope.

Bret

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Message: 3
Subject: Re: iCalendar server
From: Bret Hughes <bhu...@elevating.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Date: 17 Jan 2002 18:09:40 -0600
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

I believe evolution does.

Bret

On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 17:36, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> Is there any free software calendar server that supports the iCalendar
> protocol?
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:29:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathan Bartlett <joh...@eskimo.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: iCalendar server
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

> I believe evolution does.

I'm looking for a server, not a client.

Thanks,
Jon

>
> Bret
>
> On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 17:36, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> > Is there any free software calendar server that supports the iCalendar
> > protocol?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
From: "Edward Dekkers" <edw...@tripled.iinet.net.au>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: pop3 and imap suddenly very slow [OFF TOPIC QUESTION BACK TO TOM]
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:40:33 +0800
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

> The clients are MS Outlook Express -- these I can extend the timeout to 2
> minutes, at which point it works -- and MS Outlook 2000 -- which I can
> extend timeout for receiving, but times out trying to send. Netscape has
> same problems. Mail arrives at the server from outside with no problem,
and
> goes straight into /var/spool/mail/username.

Tom, sorry to ask a question not give an answer.

I've been looking for a timeout setting in OE for a while.

Reason being one of our (unfortunately) NT based customers is using Osiris
Winproxy for internet stuff, and sending a large mail will cause a time-out
in OE clients. Pressing the 'Wait' button 5 or 6 times gets the mail away,
but it is not a cosher way of doing it.

Do you mind telling me where the OE timeout values are stored?

TIA

P.S. Yes I HAVE tried talking them into Linux but after their $$$ investment
which has only been running a year or so, they won't go for it. :(

Regards,
Edward.

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:39:38 -0800 (PST)
From: David Talkington <dt...@prairienet.org>
To: redhat-list <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: usb problems just started
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

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Bret Hughes wrote:

>
>My Sony laptop running 7.2 with a 2.4.9-13 kernel from winfor lin has
>been working pretty well for several weeks. Last night, after going
>home and turing the machine on a lot of weird stuff started happening.

1. What did you change before you turned it off?

2. What hardware is connected at work but not at home, or vice versa?

Sorry, but we gotta ask.

- -d

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Message: 7
From: "Ed Wilts" <ewi...@ewilts.org>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: updating older os
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:54:07 -0600
Organization: ()
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

> I'm not sure that up2date can even run on 6.2. It's clear that you would
> need at least need an upgrade before you could use up2date for upgrades.

I don't know about sparc support, but I configured up2date on a RH 6.2 Intel
system just today. I did not install any of the gnome crap but you should
remember that there are multiple versions of up2date. Don't install the
up2date-gnome package. I had to upgrade/install python, python-xmlrpc, rpm
(which required db3 as a new install), rhn_register, popt, python-popt (also
new I think), and I was in business. If I were you, I'd start with rpm -ivh
up2date-2*.rpm --test, and then install the dependencies from Red Hat's
update site until you get there.

These are the packages that my system needed updated (rpm-by-date is a handy
tool!):

python-1.5.2-27.6.x Thu 17 Jan 2002 01:23:51 PM CST
python-xmlrpc-1.5.1-6.x.7 Thu 17 Jan 2002 01:26:49 PM CST
db3-3.1.17-4.6x Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:07:16 PM CST
rpm-4.0.2-6x Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:07:55 PM CST
rpm-build-4.0.2-6x Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:07:55 PM CST
rpm-devel-4.0.2-6x Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:07:55 PM CST
rpm-python-4.0.2-6x Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:27:11 PM CST
rhn_register-2.7.2-6.x.8 Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:28:21 PM CST
popt-1.6.2-6x Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:29:49 PM CST
python-popt-0.6-1 Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:30:13 PM CST
up2date-2.7.11-6.x.1 Thu 17 Jan 2002 02:30:18 PM CST

And since I *know* someone will ask for how to list rpm's by install date,
here's the script:

[root@corpftp ewilts]# cat rpm-by-date
#!/bin/bash

rpm -qa --queryformat '%{installtime} %{name}-%{version}-%{release}
%{installtime:date}\n' | sort -g | sed -e 's/^[^ ]* //'

> Note that these updates will likely require you to change lilo.conf and
run
> lilo because of the kernel updates.

The kernel is a separate issue. Our kernel is/was current, but as far as I
know, none of the packages should demand the latest kernel.

Cheers,
.../Ed

Ed Wilts
Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:02:17 -0600
From: BobH <rwh...@netexpress.net>
To: RedHat List <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: forcing fsck on ext3 devices on boot
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

Hi,
I had a flat-panel monitor go out [dead as a doornail] and had to [? but
I did anyway] hard powerdown the PC. Upon rebooting I'm getting a lot of
errors but didn't respond quick enough to force filesystem check. I'm
using grub as my bootloader. How do I force fsck of the entire HD that is
ext3 format?

TIA

Bob
--

Bob Hartung, Bettendorf, IA

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Message: 9
From: "gary" <ga...@umc.aspiren.com>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Sendmail SMTP with Auth Howto??
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:08:35 +0800
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

hi Rodolfo,
Thanks for yrs correction...., that is my mistake... it shd in sendmail.m=
c
rdgs,
gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rp...@indahaus.com>
To: <redha...@redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Sendmail SMTP with Auth Howto??

At 1/17/2002 06:12 PM +0800, you wrote:
>Just for yrs info, I did tried on Sendmail with RH7.1, it work....
>The steps as below:
>- set in sendmail.cf as below...

Please note these lines should be set in sendmail.mc (not cf). Thanks to
Gary for reminding all of us to disable the "unresolvable domains" thing.

>=B7 Setting in Outlook Express for testing
>
>=B7 Click Tools =E0 Accounts =E0 Mail =E0 select account =E0 Pro=
perties =E0
>Servers =E0 check My server requires authentication =E0 Settings. =E0 ch=
eck Log
>on using =E0 enter Account name & password
>- then try to send thr your smtp, it will only prompted user id and
>password for the first time if it is match...

In Eudora, each account or personality has an "Authentication allowed"
checkbox (on by default, a much better choice) that does the same thing.

Let us know if it works, Moke.

--
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rp...@indahaus.com

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:04:30 -0800
From: mj...@beaudesign.com
Subject: &.2: no 'Web page view' in nautilus
To: redha...@redhat.com
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

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Whenever I try and run the Help thingy from the gnome panel, nautilus opens=
up,
but also pop up a message window that says:

The Web Page view encountered an error while starting up.

Looking at the launcher properties, the "Command" line shows:

nautilus --no-default-window --no-desktop ghelp:toc

Any ideas on how to get "Help" to work properly?

Thank you.

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Message: 11
Subject: RE: suprise lag (new development)
From: gabriel <d...@netgenetix.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Date: 17 Jan 2002 19:17:34 -0800
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

ok
get this
all the stuff i was talking about, with the lag on the telnet/ftp login?
it just stopped
everything works fine now
and it all happened spontaneously

computers are mean, mean creatures

On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 14:02, gabriel wrote:
> that's what's just so odd
> neither machines are running a firewall
> unless rh62 comes with a firewall running off the install
> so if there's nothing between the two machines
> why would there be a delay in telnet/ftp logins?
> everywhere i look to, reverse dns seems to be the problem
> but since the sparc box is using my dns server to access the web
> i'm thinking i've missed something in the dns config... but what?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 12:40, Robert Finneran wrote:
> > I don't really know, but it is likely that your firewall settings are not
> > set properly to receive pings on one of your machines. There are several
> > types ICMP messages that need to pass through the firewall for a ping to
> > work. However it is unlikely that your ping problem is related to the other
> > issues you are seeing.
> >
> > Stay tuned, with the help of others on this list we should be able to figure
> > things out!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-l...@redhat.com
> > [mailto:redhat-l...@redhat.com]On Behalf Of gabriel
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:09 PM
> > To: redha...@redhat.com
> > Subject: RE: suprise lag (new development)
> >
> >
> > well i've had a new development in my mission to find out what's goin'
> > on with this sparc rh62 box.
> >
> > to recap there's 2 machines
> > (sparc64, rh62, 192.168.0.4) and (pI, rh72, 192.168.0.5)
> > pI is the nameserver
> >
> > the sparc box can serve up content through apache
> > and i can telnet/ftp into it from the pI box, but only after a wait time
> > of like a minute or so.
> >
> > now the new news
> > i can see webpages hosted on the pI box from the sparc box, but i CAN'T
> > ping the pI box from the sparc. i can however ping yahoo from the
> > sparc.
> >
> > however, i CAN ping the sparc from the pI and see http content on the
> > sparc box from the pI.
> >
> > the sparc box can surf the web and see the world, but it can't ping
> > itself (ping 192.168.0.5) or the pI box (ping 192.168.0.5). both
> > however can ping the 127.0.0.1 without problems
> >
> > one more thing,
> > when i've tried to ping the sparc from itself or pI, i've never returned
> > a complete 100% packet loss. there's always one, (and only one) packet
> > that gets through...
> >
> > this is so frustrating......
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 12
Subject: RE: suprise lag (new development)
From: gabriel <d...@netgenetix.com>
To: redha...@redhat.com
Date: 17 Jan 2002 19:17:36 -0800
Reply-To: redha...@redhat.com

ok
get this
all the stuff i was talking about, with the lag on the telnet/ftp login?
it just stopped
everything works fine now
and it all happened spontaneously

computers are mean, mean creatures

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