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Edward Wilson

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Feb 18, 2003, 10:15:00 PM2/18/03
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When is 8.1 coming out?

C1rcu1t Burn0ut

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Feb 24, 2003, 2:41:13 PM2/24/03
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:15:00 +0000, Edward Wilson wrote:

> When is 8.1 coming out?

Release is set for April, last I heard

Michael Kelly

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Feb 26, 2003, 4:22:22 PM2/26/03
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:41:13 -0600, "C1rcu1t Burn0ut" <re...@emersonmilling.com>
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>On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:15:00 +0000, Edward Wilson wrote:
>
>> When is 8.1 coming out?
>Release is set for April, last I heard

That wouldn't be April 1st would it? ;)

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Eric Bursley

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Mar 12, 2003, 9:20:39 PM3/12/03
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The next Red Hat release will be Red Hat 9. Don't ask me why they opted to
jump from 8.0 to 9.0, but they did. They will make it clear in the release
notes next month.

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Michael George

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Mar 13, 2003, 7:31:44 AM3/13/03
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:20:39 GMT, Eric Bursley <ebur...@swbell.net> wrote:
> The next Red Hat release will be Red Hat 9. Don't ask me why they opted to
> jump from 8.0 to 9.0, but they did. They will make it clear in the release
> notes next month.

Really? That's odd... That leaves me in a quandry now. I generally will not
upgrade to a x.0 release because they are often quirky. So I can either break
my "x.0 -- we won't go" policy or stick with 7.2.

I really want GNOME2 and KDE3 though...

*sigh*

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David Kastrup

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Mar 13, 2003, 7:58:05 AM3/13/03
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BoGus@invalid_addres.forThe.net (Michael George) writes:

> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:20:39 GMT, Eric Bursley <ebur...@swbell.net> wrote:

> > The next Red Hat release will be Red Hat 9. Don't ask me why they
> > opted to jump from 8.0 to 9.0, but they did. They will make it
> > clear in the release notes next month.
>
> Really? That's odd... That leaves me in a quandry now. I
> generally will not upgrade to a x.0 release because they are often
> quirky. So I can either break my "x.0 -- we won't go" policy or
> stick with 7.2.
>
> I really want GNOME2 and KDE3 though...

The reason is pretty obvious: they use major jumps whenever a switch
of the main library API is involved.

One should avoid mixing binaries from systems with a different major
number, because then large dynamical libraries for both flavors will
get pulled into memory.

When you switch major release numbers, you should for that reason
recompile everything you compiled yourself (typically the stuff in
/usr/local).

Things will still work if you don't (we are not talking MS Windows
here), but will take up more performance and memory than optimal.

With the switch to gcc-3.2, we have a new C++ API, which for example
affects the whole of KDE. I should not be surprised if that is
sufficient to warrant an x.0 release.

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Michael George

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Mar 13, 2003, 9:51:03 AM3/13/03
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On 13 Mar 2003 13:58:05 +0100, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> The reason is pretty obvious: they use major jumps whenever a switch
> of the main library API is involved.
>
> One should avoid mixing binaries from systems with a different major
> number, because then large dynamical libraries for both flavors will
> get pulled into memory.
>
> When you switch major release numbers, you should for that reason
> recompile everything you compiled yourself (typically the stuff in
> /usr/local).
>
> Things will still work if you don't (we are not talking MS Windows
> here), but will take up more performance and memory than optimal.
>
> With the switch to gcc-3.2, we have a new C++ API, which for example
> affects the whole of KDE. I should not be surprised if that is
> sufficient to warrant an x.0 release.

Good points. Thanks for the info. Usually, though, if they have an impending
x.0 release coming up, they will stall it a bit to get a few major changes
into it rather than go from x.0 to (x+1).0. But then again, this might be the
first time that things have come together as they have...

Rex Dieter

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Mar 13, 2003, 9:59:46 AM3/13/03
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Eric Bursley wrote:

> The next Red Hat release will be Red Hat 9. Don't ask me why they opted
> to
> jump from 8.0 to 9.0, but they did. They will make it clear in the
> release notes next month.

I seriously doubt that redhat will be breaking binary compatibility to
warrant a jump to 9.0 instead of 8.1 (based on their current beta, which is
ASAIK, compatible with 8.0). Any mention of 9.0 at this point is pure
speculation...

-- Rex

gort

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:59:50 PM3/14/03
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This is the reason that java plugins will not work on my locally compiled
mozilla-1.3 with gcc-3.2, the java plugin was compiled with 2.9x by Sun.

Hopefully Sun will release an updated (read gcc-3.2 compiled) plugin soon.


Rex Dieter

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Mar 14, 2003, 1:33:01 PM3/14/03
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gort wrote:

>
> This is the reason that java plugins will not work on my locally compiled
> mozilla-1.3 with gcc-3.2, the java plugin was compiled with 2.9x by Sun.
>
> Hopefully Sun will release an updated (read gcc-3.2 compiled) plugin soon.

Or you can use the gcc-3.2 compiled java from www.blackdown.org.

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Jacques Rodary

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Mar 15, 2003, 2:48:18 PM3/15/03
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Perhaps because 8.0 was so awfull, specially with locale and gnome-desktop.

Rex Dieter

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Mar 17, 2003, 7:40:07 AM3/17/03
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Jacques Rodary wrote:

> Rex Dieter wrote:

>> I seriously doubt that redhat will be breaking binary compatibility to
>> warrant a jump to 9.0 instead of 8.1 (based on their current beta, which

...


> Perhaps because 8.0 was so awfull, specially with locale and
> gnome-desktop.

By that same argument, redhat should have skipped 6.1 and 7.1 as well... (-:

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Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner

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Mar 24, 2003, 3:05:38 PM3/24/03
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Edward Wilson wrote:

> When is 8.1 coming out?

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Jacques Rodary

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Mar 26, 2003, 2:53:24 PM3/26/03
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Jacques Rodary wrote:
>
>
>>Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>
>
>>>I seriously doubt that redhat will be breaking binary compatibility to
>>>warrant a jump to 9.0 instead of 8.1 (based on their current beta, which
>
> ...
>
>>Perhaps because 8.0 was so awfull, specially with locale and
>>gnome-desktop.
>
>
> By that same argument, redhat should have skipped 6.1 and 7.1 as well... (-:
>
Yes, they should. But anyway rh9 is now a certainty.

R G Crook

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Mar 28, 2003, 8:33:24 PM3/28/03
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I've been told it is because there are major newtork config problems
with 8.0 !
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