[gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo
Dennis Taylor
Do I need the X server for Gnome and/or KDE? If so, any ideas?
My use flags are as follows:
USE="gtk gnome qt kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly"
I did an emerge --sync last week.
Dennis Taylor
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Mark Knecht
Hi Dennis,
Do another sync
emerge sync
and then do your emerge gnome. Hopefully yuo'll be OK. Xorg needs to
be emerged but it does not need to be configured to emerge gnome. We
can deal with the xorg.conf problems when you show us what it did.
Here's my current flags for one machine:
USE="nvidia 3dnow nptl nptlonly tiff gimp gimpprint ppds usb jack
jack-caps jack-tmpfs alsa dvd dvdread dvdr X"
Take them with a grain of salt.
Cheers,
Mark
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Catalin Trifu
X is the x-window server and is exactly what it says (a server). Gnome and KDE are
window managers (actually desktop) and they are built on top of the X server (clients to it).
X is responsible for talking with the hardware (graphics card) while Gnome and KDE talk
to X and tell it what it should do and how. On this address you can better visualize the layers:
http://www.x.org/X11_protocol.html
Basically you need to first get X going; it comes with a very crappy client, which is perfect
for testing. In order to get X working you definetely have to get xorg.conf right, otherwise
neither gnome nor kde, nor any other window manager (dektop) will ever work.
X -config is a good start, but you will have to tune it in order to get it working.
What graphics card do u have ? Perhaps there is a how-to out there how to configure X for your card.
Search the forums, try to start the X server and if does not start post your
/var/log/Xorg.0.log for others to be able to help you.
Cheers,
Catalin
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Thomas Mayer
> I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something. I want to run X-windows
> on my Gentoo box (2.6.10-gentoo-r6), but so far have been unsuccessful. It
> is unclear to me whether Gnome or KDE need me to first install Xorg. When
... xorg is a dependency of KDE and Gnome, just a graphics server... and what
is the error are you encountering when emerging Gnome or KDE?
> Gnome would not emerge without error, I tried first emerging/configuring
> Xorg-X11, but it will not configure correctly for me. When I run X
> -config, it produces a file with an extra horizontal synch line that is all
> corrupted. When I remove it, then X -config /root/xorg.conf.new will start
> and show a "dotted" background like I remember from years ago using
> XFree86. The mouse works because moving it around moves the mouse pointer
> (X). I can only get out of it with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and that leaves my
> monitor unreadable.
... this somewhat indicates that X server is somewhat (sic!) working. Did you
go through the configure procedure, keyboard mouse, monitor, graphics card,
hsync, vsync, do you have all the information needed ready, especially about
hsync, vsync supported by your display? However, the choice of the windows
manager should not affect the success of an emerge unless something else is
wrong.
>
> Do I need the X server for Gnome and/or KDE? If so, any ideas?
.. your call, depends on whether you prefer Gnome or KDE as a desktop
environment...
>
> My use flags are as follows:
>
> USE="gtk gnome qt kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly"
... this is very basic and does not matter whether you will be emerging Gnome
or KDE later on, IMHO, it just creates overhead installing both, although it
is an individual choice (of course)...
>
> I did an emerge --sync last week.
.. this doesn't matter much, either and will not take the decision away from
you about which window manager you want, and ahh, yes, there are others, too.
Follow the instructions about installing the desktop environment in the
Gentoo Desktop Guide.
> Dennis Taylor
>
TM ;-)
Nick Rout
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:41:33 -0500
> I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something. I want to run X-windows on my Gentoo box (2.6.10-gentoo-r6), but so far have been unsuccessful. It is unclear to me whether Gnome or KDE need me to first install Xorg. When Gnome would not emerge without error, I tried first emerging/configuring Xorg-X11, but it will not configure correctly for me. When I run X -config, it produces a file with an extra horizontal synch line that is all corrupted. When I remove it, then X -config /root/xorg.conf.new will start and show a "dotted" background like I remember from years ago using XFree86. The mouse works because moving it around moves the mouse pointer (X). I can only get out of it with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and that leaves my monitor unreadable.
You have X going, congratulations.
Now move /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.config
Now choose in /etc/rc.conf which login manager you wish to use.
Then start X
/etc/init.d/xdm start
you should get a login dialog in X, follow your nose from there.
>
> Do I need the X server for Gnome and/or KDE? If so, any ideas?
Yes most definitely
>
> My use flags are as follows:
>
> USE="gtk gnome qt kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly"
>
> I did an emerge --sync last week.
> Dennis Taylor
>
>
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ME
KDE.
Sounds like you have config problems with Xorg.
A trick you can do, if you are unsure how to setup xorg.conf, is to boot
from a bootable linux CD (like Knoppix) and, assuming that KDE does
launch normally, just copy the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf over to your Gentoo
install. You can then work from that template.
X -config did not work for me either...
Good luck,
MArc
Dennis Taylor wrote:
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Uwe Klosa
Xorg -configure
X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
I had the same problem first on my new and first installation. But after that it worked well. Your useflags are ok if you want to use both kde and gnome.
Uwe
ME wrote:
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