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Dan Jacobson

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Jan 3, 2003, 3:00:09 AM1/3/03
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Did anybody ever get sound to work on your EPOX 8kha+ board?
I have 10/10/02 sid cds. I tried everything. I can make the console
beep out of the speaker only. Alsaconf doesn't have the card.
http://jidanni.org/comp/system.txt is my sorry system. I can use
kernel -18 or -19.

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Rico -mc- Gloeckner

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Jan 3, 2003, 7:50:11 AM1/3/03
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On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:40:00PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Did anybody ever get sound to work on your EPOX 8kha+ board?
> I have 10/10/02 sid cds. I tried everything. I can make the console
> beep out of the speaker only. Alsaconf doesn't have the card.
> http://jidanni.org/comp/system.txt is my sorry system. I can use
> kernel -18 or -19.

Would you mind mailing the Output of these two Commands?

lspci
lspci -n


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Lourens Steenkamp

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Jan 4, 2003, 6:10:06 AM1/4/03
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Lourens replying to Dan Jacobson <jid...@dman.ddts.net> wrote:

> Did anybody ever get sound to work on your EPOX 8kha+ board?
> I have 10/10/02 sid cds. I tried everything. I can make the
> console beep out of the speaker only. Alsaconf doesn't have
> the card. http://jidanni.org/comp/system.txt is my sorry
> system. I can use kernel -18 or -19.
>

I have never had much joy with these embedded_audio_devices on the
8KHA+, the 8H5A2 (or any mobo for that matter).
When I have managed to get them to work, they have never sounded that
great either.
IMHO, these embedded_audio_devices are more trouble that they are worth.

My approach is to disable the embedded device and to install a
relatively inexpensive (e.g. Ensoniq 5880 based) pci audio card.

HTH

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Kent West

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Jan 6, 2003, 1:30:05 AM1/6/03
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Dan Jacobson wrote:

>Did anybody ever get sound to work on your EPOX 8kha+ board?
>
>

Yes. But not currently (I just did a bunch of work to the box, including
rearranging/resizing partitions and upgrading the kernel). When I get
back to it in a few days, I'll get it working and try to remember to
respond to this posting again to give more details. But in the
meanwhile, I wanted you to know it can work.

Kent

Dan Jacobson

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Jan 6, 2003, 7:10:07 PM1/6/03
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The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.epox as well.

>> Did anybody ever get sound to work on your EPOX 8kha+ board with
>> debian? I have 10/10/02 sid cds. I can make the console beep out
>> of the speaker only.

Rico> Would you mind mailing the Output of these two Commands?
Rico> lspci; lspci -n
OK, I put it all in http://jidanni.org/comp/system.txt

L> I have never had much joy with these embedded_audio_devices on the
L> 8KHA+, the 8H5A2 (or any mobo for that matter). When I have
L> managed to get them to work, they have never sounded that great
L> either.
L> IMHO, these embedded_audio_devices are more trouble that they are worth.
L> My approach is to disable the embedded device and to install a
L> relatively inexpensive (e.g. Ensoniq 5880 based) pci audio card.

I just traded in my old computer with its card still inside ... I'd
hate to have to make a trip to town to buy one...

One sign of trouble is I tried knoppix and it made lots of complaints
upon boot [which of course flew off the screen and are not in
/var/log...] Seems 2.4.19 is worse than 18 here...

Anyway, it must be just the IRQ's or whatever... if you have the
recipe I don't think I would notice quality issues...

I mean if I can make it beep out the speakers with
echo -e \\a>/dev/console
that means I must not be too far off?

A> Alsa 0.9.0rc6 seems to support your card, look here:
A> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=VIA&card=&chip=via8233a&module=via82xx
A> You might have to compile it yourself, I don't know whether 0.9.0-rc6
A> is in Debian stable. I use Debain testing, there you can get a package
A> for it.

since it's not easy for me to update my SID 20021010 cd set, nor do I
dare to 'compile the kernel', might there be a way to do it with
'sox'? One bleat will satisfy me.

P.S. wildly entering commands produces this dmesg:
Via 686a audio driver 1.9.1
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x414c:0x4710 (ALC200/200P)
via82cxxx: board #1 at 0xE400, IRQ 12
via_audio: ignoring drain playback error -512
ALSA ../../../alsa-kernel/core/seq/oss/seq_oss.c:225: can't register device seq
VIA 8233 soundcard not found or device busy
ALSA ../../alsa-kernel/drivers/mpu401/mpu401.c:70: specify snd_port
MPU-401 device not found or device busy
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Jay

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Jan 6, 2003, 7:30:11 PM1/6/03
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Is anyone else here getting triple messages (same message thrice) from the
list on your inbox?

If so, is there a way to get only one?

Thanks..

- Jay.

Colin Keefe

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Jan 6, 2003, 9:00:13 PM1/6/03
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* Dan Jacobson <jid...@dman.ddts.net> [2003-01-03 15:40 +0800]:

> Did anybody ever get sound to work on your EPOX 8kha+ board?
> I have 10/10/02 sid cds. I tried everything. I can make the console


> beep out of the speaker only. Alsaconf doesn't have the card.
> http://jidanni.org/comp/system.txt is my sorry system. I can use
> kernel -18 or -19.
>

I have with much help from many sources (using Alsa). I'm not sure what
you've done so I'll list all the steps I used.

create a link:
ln -s /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 /etc/modutils/alsa

Get the alsa modules
If you're compiling your own kernel:
apt-get install alsa-base alsa-source
cd /usr/src
tar -xzf alsa-driver.tar.gz
compile alsa modules
install alsa modules
I have to admit I don't know how to do this (I only compile alsa
modules when I recompile a kernel).
possibly make-kpkg modules and then dpkg -i the.deb

If you're using a stock kernel:
apt-get install alsa-base alsa-modules-2.4.19-686 --> change to
correct kernel version & architecture

create a file /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 containing:
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-via82xx

alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

create a link:
ln -s /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 /etc/modutils/alsa

run:
update-modules

make sure you are in groups audio & cdrom

/etc/init.d/alsa start

load your favorite mixer (I use aumix), set the sound levels & you
should be ready.

If anybody out there could enlighten me on compiling modules without
compiling a kernel I would appreciate it. Is the update-modules step
necessary (it has been some months since I did this)? If I missed any
steps or added steps that are not required let me know 8-).
Good luck.
Colin

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Dan Jacobson

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Jan 8, 2003, 2:40:07 AM1/8/03
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The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.epox as well.

Regarding sound on debian, indeed, I followed Colin Keefe's advice
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030107020013$64eb%40gated-at.bofh.it&rnum=6
with initial success after reboot (using "snd-via8233" instead of
"snd-via82xx") with stock kernel 2.4.18-k7 !
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Rico -mc- Gloeckner

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Jan 8, 2003, 3:20:11 AM1/8/03
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On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 02:36:50PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Regarding sound on debian, indeed, I followed Colin Keefe's advice
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030107020013$64eb%40gated-at.bofh.it&rnum=6
> with initial success after reboot (using "snd-via8233" instead of
> "snd-via82xx") with stock kernel 2.4.18-k7 !

Ahhh! Now that bulb appears over my Head :-)

There were two Changes in Alsa which affected what i told you in my
private Post:
1) Old Versions of ALSA had multiple drivers for VT82xx, one for every
single Chipsets. Latest Versions have these Drivers merged into vt82xx.
(as i told you already :)
2) Old Versions of ALSA use snd-<driver> as Module Name, later Versions
omit the leading snd-

The Difference between your Installation and mine is, that you use
precompiled Modules and i compiled my Alsa Modules myself, that might be
a bit confusing sometimes.

Sorry, forgot about that, but just remembered i read it somewhen.


So, what means initial success? Does it work now or doesnt it? In latter
Case, are there any Errormessages you get, either on Console or in Logs?

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