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Hendrik Boom
Dec 27, 2011, 9:40:02 PM12/27/11
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Recently, with wheezy, when I try to upgrade using aptitude in teh
interactive interface, I get a lot of potentially unsatisfied
dependencies. (I use u to update the package list, then U to make a set
of upgrades) Aptitude usually suggests I remove a lot of packages. gnome
and its minions are usually on the list, which is drastic. I end up
exploring alternatives, but there are often no acceptable ones. I seem
to remember there used to be a way to upgrade where it would only
consider packages that could be upgraded without removing stuff (except
for packages that had become obsolete or had nothing depending on them
any more, of course).
Is there any way to get that behaviour now?
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interactive interface, I get a lot of potentially unsatisfied
dependencies. (I use u to update the package list, then U to make a set
of upgrades) Aptitude usually suggests I remove a lot of packages. gnome
and its minions are usually on the list, which is drastic. I end up
exploring alternatives, but there are often no acceptable ones. I seem
to remember there used to be a way to upgrade where it would only
consider packages that could be upgraded without removing stuff (except
for packages that had become obsolete or had nothing depending on them
any more, of course).
Is there any way to get that behaviour now?
-- hendrik
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Andrei Popescu
Dec 28, 2011, 4:30:01 AM12/28/11
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On Mi, 28 dec 11, 02:35:41, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Recently, with wheezy, when I try to upgrade using aptitude in teh
> interactive interface, I get a lot of potentially unsatisfied
> dependencies. (I use u to update the package list, then U to make a set
> of upgrades) Aptitude usually suggests I remove a lot of packages. gnome
> and its minions are usually on the list, which is drastic. I end up
> exploring alternatives, but there are often no acceptable ones. I seem
> to remember there used to be a way to upgrade where it would only
> consider packages that could be upgraded without removing stuff (except
> for packages that had become obsolete or had nothing depending on them
> any more, of course).
Only via the commandline (safe-upgrade). U in interactive mode does the
> Recently, with wheezy, when I try to upgrade using aptitude in teh
> interactive interface, I get a lot of potentially unsatisfied
> dependencies. (I use u to update the package list, then U to make a set
> of upgrades) Aptitude usually suggests I remove a lot of packages. gnome
> and its minions are usually on the list, which is drastic. I end up
> exploring alternatives, but there are often no acceptable ones. I seem
> to remember there used to be a way to upgrade where it would only
> consider packages that could be upgraded without removing stuff (except
> for packages that had become obsolete or had nothing depending on them
> any more, of course).
equivalent of full-upgrade. I'm guessing the rationale is that in
interactive mode the admin is able to pass various hints to fix such
complex situations, or just decide to wait
BTW, you are of course aware that Gnome 3 has migrated to wheezy, right?
(I'm asking because you might be seeing the Gnome 2 -> Gnome 3 upgrade)
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Hendrik Boom
Dec 28, 2011, 9:10:01 AM12/28/11
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:27:25 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mi, 28 dec 11, 02:35:41, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> Recently, with wheezy, when I try to upgrade using aptitude in teh
>> interactive interface, I get a lot of potentially unsatisfied
>> dependencies. (I use u to update the package list, then U to make a
>> set of upgrades) Aptitude usually suggests I remove a lot of packages.
>> gnome and its minions are usually on the list, which is drastic. I end
>> up exploring alternatives, but there are often no acceptable ones. I
>> seem to remember there used to be a way to upgrade where it would only
>> consider packages that could be upgraded without removing stuff (except
>> for packages that had become obsolete or had nothing depending on them
>> any more, of course).
>
> Only via the commandline (safe-upgrade). U in interactive mode does the
> equivalent of full-upgrade. I'm guessing the rationale is that in
> interactive mode the admin is able to pass various hints to fix such
> complex situations, or just decide to wait
I'll try the safe-upgrade, Thanks. Currently I'm waiting.
> On Mi, 28 dec 11, 02:35:41, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> Recently, with wheezy, when I try to upgrade using aptitude in teh
>> interactive interface, I get a lot of potentially unsatisfied
>> dependencies. (I use u to update the package list, then U to make a
>> set of upgrades) Aptitude usually suggests I remove a lot of packages.
>> gnome and its minions are usually on the list, which is drastic. I end
>> up exploring alternatives, but there are often no acceptable ones. I
>> seem to remember there used to be a way to upgrade where it would only
>> consider packages that could be upgraded without removing stuff (except
>> for packages that had become obsolete or had nothing depending on them
>> any more, of course).
>
> Only via the commandline (safe-upgrade). U in interactive mode does the
> equivalent of full-upgrade. I'm guessing the rationale is that in
> interactive mode the admin is able to pass various hints to fix such
> complex situations, or just decide to wait
> BTW, you are of course aware that Gnome 3 has migrated to wheezy, right?
> (I'm asking because you might be seeing the Gnome 2 -> Gnome 3 upgrade)
the meantime, it's getting in the way of smooth upgrades. I guess I
could uninstall gnome, but that seems drastic.
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Osamu Aoki
Jan 6, 2012, 8:30:02 AM1/6/12
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Hi,
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:02:30PM +0000, Hendrik Boom wrote:
...
uninstalling gnome is becoming almost ritural for me for major upgrade.
Done that for several releases. Aptitude makes it very easy.
Here is what you do with aptitude.
/^gnome$
Now you see gnome package.
Down to Depends and Recommends.
Press m to killl "A" markings for each.
Now you can remove gnome without having major issue. Remove package as
you need.
Cheers,
Osamu
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:02:30PM +0000, Hendrik Boom wrote:
...
> Painfully aware. I fled to xfce. I may go back when it stabilizes. In
> the meantime, it's getting in the way of smooth upgrades. I guess I
> could uninstall gnome, but that seems drastic.
Hey, same here ... a refugeee user of xfce.
> the meantime, it's getting in the way of smooth upgrades. I guess I
> could uninstall gnome, but that seems drastic.
uninstalling gnome is becoming almost ritural for me for major upgrade.
Done that for several releases. Aptitude makes it very easy.
Here is what you do with aptitude.
/^gnome$
Now you see gnome package.
Down to Depends and Recommends.
Press m to killl "A" markings for each.
Now you can remove gnome without having major issue. Remove package as
you need.
Cheers,
Osamu
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Hendrik Boom
Jan 8, 2012, 2:10:01 PM1/8/12
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 10:06:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:02:30PM +0000, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> ...
> > Painfully aware. I fled to xfce. I may go back when it stabilizes. In
> > the meantime, it's getting in the way of smooth upgrades. I guess I
> > could uninstall gnome, but that seems drastic.
>
> Hey, same here ... a refugeee user of xfce.
>
> uninstalling gnome is becoming almost ritural for me for major upgrade.
> Done that for several releases. Aptitude makes it very easy.
I'll say!
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:02:30PM +0000, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> ...
> > Painfully aware. I fled to xfce. I may go back when it stabilizes. In
> > the meantime, it's getting in the way of smooth upgrades. I guess I
> > could uninstall gnome, but that seems drastic.
>
> Hey, same here ... a refugeee user of xfce.
>
> uninstalling gnome is becoming almost ritural for me for major upgrade.
> Done that for several releases. Aptitude makes it very easy.
The interactive aptitude offered to do it for me on at least half my
upgrades, until I discovered I should be using the noninteractive
safe-upgrade
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