Can anyone give me some hints here.
Thanks,
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ath9K?
I think you may have been misled. In the kernel config for kernel
2.6.25-{2-3), there is a module called ath5k for the latest version of
of madwifi.
From what I've read it does bring the interface us but people have not
been able to associate with an AP yet.
I have not tried it yet myself due to other more pressing problems.
Wayne
ath9k is for the 802.11n chips, ath5k for the a/b/g chips. ath9k is newer
than ath5k. Both are now lead by people from Atheros (they employed
the people who were leading the ath5k team) and both are incomplete and
are under heavy development. I would suggest that you wait a couple of
kernel iterations before trying either of them for production use, and if you
can (i.e. you do not have an 11n chip) use madwifi for now.
Obviously in the long term as both ath?k drivers are entirely open source
rather than relying on a closed HAL they are preferable to madwifi.
David
Thanks for that information David. I have not been able to keep up with
the progress
on the madwifi site but am glad that they are 'really' looking ahead.
My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.
Wayne
>
> My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.
>
> Wayne
None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to David
also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but still
couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without being
near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
Thanks again for all the help.
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Without a nearby AP it is kind of difficult, but you can get clues by looking
at /var/log/syslog for madwifi related messages, and looking to see if there
is an interface included in the list you get from ip addr or ifconfig.
David
<snip>
>
> Without a nearby AP it is kind of difficult, but you can get clues by
> looking at /var/log/syslog for madwifi related messages, and looking to
> see if there is an interface included in the list you get from ip addr or
> ifconfig.
>
> David
Thanks for that David. I checked the syslog and there are a bunch of
messages relating to ath_pci and ath_hal. They don't seem very revealing;
nothing like "bad driver" or "broken" or "missing". I'm not really sure
what I should be looking for.
The output of ifconfig is easier. Here it is (I've omitted the eth0 and lo
stuff)
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0e:9b:cf:bc:0c
inet addr:172.26.0.4 Bcast:172.26.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
wmaster0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr
00-0E-9B-CF-BC-0C-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Does this look like it's happy with the driver?
Cheers,
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Its a good start. Now you need to try connecting to the great outside.
David
Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi? Check out the
Compatibility page on the madwifi site <http://madwifi.org>. I have
used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards. Be sure to watch for the
version of your card. Many manufactures use different chips in the
their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
version. That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
number.
Wayne
Not to me it doesn't. My madwifi systems do not have a wmaster0
interface. They do have an ath0 and wifi0. I don't have any wifi card
that shows a wmaster0 and I use 4 different card/drivers.
What adapter are you using?
what does lspci -vvv show for your adapter?
Wayne
> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>
>>
>>> My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>> None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to
>> David also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but
>> still couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without
>> being near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
>> Thanks again for all the help.
>> Jonathan
>>
>
> Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi? Check out the
> Compatibility page on the madwifi site <http://madwifi.org>. I have
> used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards. Be sure to watch for the
> version of your card. Many manufactures use different chips in the
> their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
> version. That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
> number.
>
> Wayne
Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413 which
according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be acer-wmi
and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the 2.6.25 kernel
so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig output to see if
it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggghhhh!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such device
Back to square 1?
Cheers,
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Try modprobe acer_wmi
wtopa@dj:~$ grep -i acer /boot/config*
/boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
Wayne
Thank you Wayne,
I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
cheers,
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<--SNIP-->
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>> So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
>>> which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be
>>> acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
>>> 2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
>>> output to see if it's more like yours.
>>> ...
>>> aaarrrggghhhh!
>>> This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
>>> #modprobe -v acer-wmi
>>> I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
>>> (/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
>>> device Back to square 1?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jonathan
>> Try modprobe acer_wmi
>>
>> wtopa@dj:~$ grep -i acer /boot/coacer_wmi
>> /boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
>>
>>
>> Wayne
> Thank you Wayne,
> I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
Change what?? The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
was in the kernel or not.
Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
cat "acer_wmi" >> /etc/modules
which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.
Remember to use the >> 'not' > or you will wipe out the other modules in
that file.
Have fun....
Wayne
Hi Wayne,
What confused me was that I already did the modprobe acer_wmi (except that I
used the verbose -v switch) and I reported the result before my arrggghh.
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
device.
I tried that again and the same fatal error. I can do as you suggest and
manually insert the acer_wmi into the /etc/modules file.
BTW, in dmesg, the acer_wmi module is mentioned with the message that it
cannot be loaded because there is no interface. ??????????
This is not my machine so I can't verify anything at the moment but if you'd
like more info I'll post it in a few minutes.
Thanks again but not having fun yet,
Jonathan
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Kevin
Did the Compatibility page say that madwifi supported your card/adapter
or not?
>>>>> acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
>>>>> 2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
>>>>> output to see if it's more like yours.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> aaarrrggghhhh!
>>>>> This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
>>>>> #modprobe -v acer-wmi
>>>>> I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
>>>>> (/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
^^^^ note acer-
>>>>> device Back to square 1?
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>> Try modprobe acer_wmi
^^^ acer_ Not the same as above!
>>> Thank you Wayne,
>>> I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
>> Change what?? The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
>> was in the kernel or not.
>>
>> Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
>> cat "acer_wmi" >> /etc/modules
>> which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.
>>
>> Remember to use the >> 'not' > or you will wipe out the other modules in
>> that file.
>>
>> Have fun....
>>
>> Wayne
> Hi Wayne,
> What confused me was that I already did the modprobe acer_wmi (except that I
> used the verbose -v switch) and I reported the result before my arrggghh.
> I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
> (/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
> device.
Thats why we need to see the wireless output of lspci -vvv
> I tried that again and the same fatal error. I can do as you suggest and
> manually insert the acer_wmi into the /etc/modules file.
Do that when/if you get it to see the card
>
> BTW, in dmesg, the acer_wmi module is mentioned with the message that it
> cannot be loaded because there is no interface. ??????????
> This is not my machine so I can't verify anything at the moment but if you'd
> like more info I'll post it in a few minutes.
> Thanks again but not having fun yet,
> Jonathan
I asked you for the output of lspci -vvv a few messages back but never
got a response, so if you could show us that output (only the wireless
interface part) it would help.
I thought I had also asked what wireless adapter you are trying to get
working. I still don't know so without that information I am not able to
do much more.
WT
Hmm. That's a little worrying. "disabled"? "access denied"?
Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
Atheros AR5005G ΒΆ
Chipset: AR5005G = (AR2413)
Chip: AR2413 (802.11b+g)
URL: http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR5005G.htm
Supports: IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g
Working: not working with version 0.9.2, dmesg reports: "unable to attach
hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)"
Notes: Several tickets indicate this; no response was ever given. However,
some users have reported success, but could not confirm this.
Notes: Works perfectly on Slackware 11 (kernel 2.6.18.3) and madwifi 0.9.2.
Just modprobe ath_pci after compiling/installing. (this on an Acer 3102
wlmi)
Notes: For Kernel 2.6.22.1 use trunk version (madwifi 0.9.3.1 release
doesn't compile): svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/trunk
madwifi . That works perfectly (I'm running Slackware 12 on Acer 3102wlmi).
Notes: SMC PCI card: OK for Slackware 12.1 (kernel 2.6.25.2), with
madwifi-0.9.4
Notes: I can confirm that this chipset works great with the madwifi-ng
drivers on Debian Testing. Also monitor mode.
Notes: chipset is AR1423, as you can see through URL
Notes: This chipset works on the Acer Aspire 5040 if you install the
acer_acpi driver http://www.archernar.co.uk/acer_acpi/acer_acpi_main.html
Notes: Works on the Acer Aspire 3053 if you reload the modules (see
http://rik.rikva.nl/?q=node/10) and then run depmod -a (as root)
Notes: Works on the Acer Aspire 5051 using madwifi source pulled 2006-12-18
(OpenSuSE 10.2/x86_64)
Notes: Works on the Acer Aspire 5100 using madwifi source (Mandriva
2007.0/x86_64)
Notes: Cheap Ativa card works ok in gentoo. /etc/init.d/net.athx start does
not ifconfig athx up the device, so preferred wireless won't work
Notes: Works out of the box with Ubuntu 7.10 and 6.06
This all seems quite confusing, as many answers as there are different
notes.
Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used wifi
before as you can see.
I hope this is all the information you requested. Sorry to be so thick about
all this.
Thanks for your patience,
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> Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
Ah, you didn't find a listing for AMBIT Microsystem Corp. That means,
to me, that it is not compatible with madwifi. If it was, AMBIT would
have be listed there.
Google for AMBIT Microsystem Corp and see if they have any info on that
card.
Contact Acer and ask them for information on that card.
Did you Acer come with WindBloz or Linux installed?
If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
card? Does it have any software for that card installed? Did the card
work in WindBloz? If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
working using the ndiswrapper package.
If it came with linux installed contact Acer for information on getting
it working.
<-- Snip info about AR5005G which may or may not apply -->
>
> Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
> adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used wifi
> before as you can see.
No problem. I have been there too. I spent 2 months researching Wifi
cards and adapters before I even thought about buying one. My first
priority was 'does it work with Linux'. I now have 8 pcmcia/usb Wifi
working with Linux and one WindBloz pcmcia card on a Laptop my Son gave
me. Guess which ones I use. :-)
Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.
Good luck!
Wayne
> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>> Output of lspci -vvv
>> 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg
>> NIC (rev 01)
>> Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
>> Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop-
>> ParErr-
>
>
>> Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
>
> Ah, you didn't find a listing for AMBIT Microsystem Corp. That means,
> to me, that it is not compatible with madwifi. If it was, AMBIT would
> have be listed there.
>
> Google for AMBIT Microsystem Corp and see if they have any info on that
> card.
>
> Contact Acer and ask them for information on that card.
>
> Did you Acer come with WindBloz or Linux installed?
WinBloz
> If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
> card?
It came with a CD but before anything else we ripped out WindBloz and
installed Debian. At that time we were using a router and the ethernet card
which came with the Laptop plays nicely with Debian. In fact the only
problem we've every had with the Acer is right now with the Wifi.
Everything else worked pretty much out of the box. I think I had to
download a driver for the SIS video card from SIS but that was it.
> Does it have any software for that card installed? Did the card
> work in WindBloz? If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
> working using the ndiswrapper package.
Blush, blush. No I didn't think I would ever need it so I threw out the CD
when we ripped out WindBloz.
>
> If it came with linux installed contact Acer for information on getting
> it working.
>
> <-- Snip info about AR5005G which may or may not apply -->
>
>
>>
>> Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
>> adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used
>> wifi before as you can see.
>
> No problem. I have been there too. I spent 2 months researching Wifi
> cards and adapters before I even thought about buying one. My first
> priority was 'does it work with Linux'. I now have 8 pcmcia/usb Wifi
> working with Linux and one WindBloz pcmcia card on a Laptop my Son gave
> me. Guess which ones I use. :-)
>
> Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.
Au contraire, thanks a lot for helping me. Right now the pcmia or usb wifi
card seems the best option. Any recommendations on that score?
>
> Good luck!
>
> Wayne
Once again, thanks a million Wayne. You show us all what Debian is all
about.
Cheers mate,
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> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>> Output of lspci -vvv
>> 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg
>> NIC (rev 01)
>> Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
>> Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop-
>> ParErr-
>
>
>> Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
>
> Ah, you didn't find a listing for AMBIT Microsystem Corp. That means,
> to me, that it is not compatible with madwifi. If it was, AMBIT would
> have be listed there.
<snip>
Just to be sure I understand, the line with Subsystem: AMBIT shown above
doesn't count as a listing. Is that correct?
Cheers,
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> If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
> card? Does it have any software for that card installed? Did the card
> work in WindBloz? If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
> working using the ndiswrapper package.
>
Hi again Wayne,
On the Acer website they do have the Windows XP driver for the Aspire 3500.
It's called Atheros Wireless LAN B+G Driver 4.0.0.14001. I can give it a
try with ndiswrapper.
Cheers,
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The madwifi Compatibility page did not have a listing for a company
named AMBIT. So I don't think that AMBIT is compatiable.
Wayne
Sure you can. Get that and the ndiswrapper (which I have not used) and
go for it!!
Good Find Jonathan!!
Wayne
> me. Guess which ones I use. :-)
>>
>> Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.
> Au contraire, thanks a lot for helping me. Right now the pcmia or usb wifi
> card seems the best option. Any recommendations on that score?
I like the pcmcia cards but I also use 3 different usb adapters. I
prefer the pcmcia cards because they all work with madwifi. I only
bought cards that were madwifi compatable.
I would suggest you search for a pcmcia card that has the features/price
you like. Then go to the madwifi Compatibility page and make sure the
Manuf. and that model/version is supported. If not, keep looking.
I like the Netgear WG511U 3.3v/Cardbus pcmcia cards because that work
great. Never had a problem with them and by following all the Tips
given in the UserDocs on the madwifi site I had no problems using then
in any mode. I have them working on an IBM T40 & two 770 (2) laptops, a
HP ze4420us laptop, and an old 586 desktop with a pcmcia adapter.
Best regards and good luck in your search!
Wayne
> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
>>> card? Does it have any software for that card installed? Did the card
>>> work in WindBloz? If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
>>> working using the ndiswrapper package.
>>>
>> Hi again Wayne,
>> On the Acer website they do have the Windows XP driver for the Aspire
>> 3500. It's called Atheros Wireless LAN B+G Driver 4.0.0.14001. I can give
>> it a try with ndiswrapper.
>> Cheers,
>> Jonathan
>
> Sure you can. Get that and the ndiswrapper (which I have not used) and
> go for it!!
>
> Good Find Jonathan!!
>
> Wayne
Hi Wayne,
Seems to work. ndiswrapper seemed happy with the set up and nicely installed
the XP drivers. I'm not near an AP but I noticed that kwifimanager has a
green bar indicating dl-ul speed now that it didn't have before. We'll take
the laptop to an AP point and give it a try. I'll report the results later
in the day.
Cheers,
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> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
>>> card? Does it have any software for that card installed? Did the card
>>> work in WindBloz? If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
>>> working using the ndiswrapper package.
>>>
>> Hi again Wayne,
>> On the Acer website they do have the Windows XP driver for the Aspire
>> 3500. It's called Atheros Wireless LAN B+G Driver 4.0.0.14001. I can give
>> it a try with ndiswrapper.
>> Cheers,
>> Jonathan
>
> Sure you can. Get that and the ndiswrapper (which I have not used) and
> go for it!!
>
> Good Find Jonathan!!
>
> Wayne
More info:
1. dmesg results seem to be good:
[ 14.270854] ndiswrapper version 1.53 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no)
[ 14.358992] ndiswrapper: driver net5211 (,11/15/2006,5.1.1.9) loaded
[ 14.359358] ndiswrapper 0000:00:0b.0: enabling device (0010 -> 0012)
[ 14.359593] ndiswrapper (ZwClose:2198): closing handle 0xf78975a8 not
implemented
[ 14.969994] ndiswrapper: using IRQ 17
[ 15.196018] usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper
[ 15.186802] wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP; TKIP with WPA, WPA2,
WPA2PSK; AES/CCMP with WPA, WPA2, WPA2PSK
2. ifconfig seems more like you described. Entries only for eth0, lo and
wlan0. wlan0 looks like this:
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0e:9b:cf:bc:0c
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:17 Memory:e2010000-e2020000
Cheers,
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You are nearly there now. I would suggest you read (print) all of the
UserDocs from the madwifi site. I bound my copies and used them quite a
bit when I get started. Get your /etc/network/interfaces setup using
those docs and refer, if needed, to the debian-reference (you have
installed that, right), and you are in the pink. I haven't checked
lately but there are some debian realated pages in the UserDocs you
might find interesting.
Way to go Jonathan!
Wayne
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