Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

Miroslav Skoric

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Oct 5, 2022, 10:10:05 AM10/5/22

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After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something
to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly
(where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there
nothing was changed/upgraded).

To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane,
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and From
columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for all
news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.

Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Misko

Ralph Katz

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Oct 5, 2022, 7:20:06 PM10/5/22

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I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable)
from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user and replying directly to
debian-user.

The upgrade to Thunderbird 102.3.0 was seamless. So thunderbird does
the job for newsgroups, at least in bullseye.

Good luck!

Ralph

Kamil Jońca

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Oct 6, 2022, 12:40:06 AM10/6/22

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Miroslav Skoric <sko...@uns.ac.rs> writes:

> After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version
> 91-something to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling
> newsgroups properly (where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the
> same machine, and there nothing was changed/upgraded).
>
> To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the
> NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane,
> but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and
> From columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for
> all news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1788102 ?

You may try to set "mailnews.nntp.jsmodule" to "false"

KJ

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Miroslav Skoric

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Oct 6, 2022, 8:30:05 AM10/6/22

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I am using buster, not bullseye.

Max Nikulin

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Oct 6, 2022, 8:50:05 AM10/6/22

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On 05/10/2022 20:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something
> to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly
> (where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there
> nothing was changed/upgraded).

If you can provide steps to reproduce then it may be reasonable to
report the issues to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org Likely you will be
asked to confirm the problem for the latest release or daily build.

A part of NNTP has been reimplemented since Thunderbird-91, I am unsure
concerning Kamil's suggestion to switch back to the older one. There are
enough bugs in the latter as well. On the other hand my issues was
related to network latency or lost packets. In some aspects behavior of
Thunderbird-102 should be better, but I am not surprised by new bugs.

piorunz

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Oct 6, 2022, 2:20:05 PM10/6/22

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On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:

> I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable)
> from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
> news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user and replying directly to
> debian-user.

Wow! Is this free service? So we can actually have debian-user group as
newsgroup in usenet reader? I went to this page (https://news.gmane.io/)
but it does not say anything how to use it.

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Curt

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Oct 6, 2022, 3:40:05 PM10/6/22

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On 2022-10-06, piorunz <pio...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:
>
>> I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable)
>> from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
>> news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user and replying directly to
>> debian-user.
>
> Wow! Is this free service? So we can actually have debian-user group as
> newsgroup in usenet reader? I went to this page (https://news.gmane.io/)
> but it does not say anything how to use it.

server: news.gmane.io

newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user

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> With kindest regards, Piotr.
>
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> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
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piorunz

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Oct 6, 2022, 5:30:05 PM10/6/22

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On 06/10/2022 20:38, Curt wrote:

> server: news.gmane.io
>
> newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user

It worked! Thanks. Does it support TLS, by any chance? Or
username/password, to prevent spoofing?
Can posts be sent from this newsgroup directly to debian list, or its
read only?

Curt

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Oct 7, 2022, 1:00:06 PM10/7/22

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On 2022-10-06, piorunz <pio...@gmx.com> wrote:

> On 06/10/2022 20:38, Curt wrote:
>
>> server: news.gmane.io
>>
>> newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user
>
> It worked! Thanks. Does it support TLS, by any chance? Or
> username/password, to prevent spoofing?

I don't know.

> Can posts be sent from this newsgroup directly to debian list, or its
> read only?

Bidirectional gateway.

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> With kindest regards, Piotr.
>
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
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>
>

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Max Nikulin

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Oct 8, 2022, 4:20:06 AM10/8/22

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On 07/10/2022 01:14, piorunz wrote:
> On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:
>
>> news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user and replying directly to
>> debian-user.
>
> Wow! Is this free service?

The story of gmane:

https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/15/news-gmane-org-is-now-news-gmane-io/