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Stephen Allen
May 22, 2013, 7:40:02 AM5/22/13
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Greetings.
I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
Thanks!
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I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
Thanks!
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Brian
May 22, 2013, 8:10:03 AM5/22/13
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On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
>
> When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
With aptitude:
> I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
>
> When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package
Or you could use apt-mark.
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Carl Fink
May 22, 2013, 8:50:03 AM5/22/13
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It's off topic, but I was *sure* this was about a Creationist trying to
interfere with biology education.
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Stephen Allen
May 23, 2013, 10:40:01 PM5/23/13
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 08:44:03AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> It's off topic, but I was *sure* this was about a Creationist trying to
> interfere with biology education.
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Stephen Allen
May 23, 2013, 11:00:02 PM5/23/13
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On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> > I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> > my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
> >
> > When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> > much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> > keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
>
> With aptitude:
>
> http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package
>
>
---end quoted text---
> On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> > I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> > my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
> >
> > When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> > much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> > keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
>
> With aptitude:
>
> http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package
>
>
Unfortunately this suggestion didn't work. I had already marked
Evolution packages as manually installed.
But thanks!
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Andrei POPESCU
May 24, 2013, 4:00:01 AM5/24/13
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On Jo, 23 mai 13, 22:59:00, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> > > my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
> > >
> > > When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> > > much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> > > keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
> >
> > With aptitude:
> >
> > http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> > > my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
> > >
> > > When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> > > much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> > > keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
> >
> > With aptitude:
> >
> > http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package
>
> Unfortunately this suggestion didn't work. I had already marked
> Evolution packages as manually installed.
I haven't read the link above, but marking Evolution as manually
> Evolution packages as manually installed.
installed would not help you. Imagine the following:
Package: gnome
Depends: gnome-core,
evolution,
etc.
The package 'gnome' is just a metapackage meant to pull all the others.
If you try to uninstall evolution the package manager will have to
uninstall the gnome metapackage as well (because the dependency is
broken). If the other packages are marked as automatically installed it
will want to remove them as well (not needed). What I would suggest is
(the order matters):
- mark evolution as automatically installed
- mark any component of gnome you want to keep as manually installed
- remove the gnome metapackage
If there are no circular Depends or Recommends this should also remove
evolution, but if it didn't you will have to do it manually.
Beware, this is not tested, you might need to adjust it a bit, but the
principle is the same. Also aptitude's visual mode is best suited for
this. Press 'g' once and you will be presented with all proposed
actions. Go through the list and press '+' on every package you want to
keep.
Kind regards,
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Brian
May 24, 2013, 6:20:02 AM5/24/13
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On Thu 23 May 2013 at 22:59:00 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> > > my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
> > >
> > > When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> > > much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> > > keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
> >
> > With aptitude:
> >
> > http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package
> >
> >
> ---end quoted text---
>
> Unfortunately this suggestion didn't work. I had already marked
> Evolution packages as manually installed.
You may have done but the blog page doesn't offer that as a technique.
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use
> > > my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone.
> > >
> > > When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty
> > > much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while
> > > keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)?
> >
> > With aptitude:
> >
> > http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package
> >
> >
> ---end quoted text---
>
> Unfortunately this suggestion didn't work. I had already marked
> Evolution packages as manually installed.
We may as well put its advice here:
Well, there is a solution: marking all the dependencies of the
meta-package as manually installed, that is, faking that you installed
them explicitly Aptitude is able to do that with its powerful search
functions:
aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome)'
aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-core) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-core)'
aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-desktop-environment) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-desktop-environment)'
This works for me to purge Evolution without removing other needed
software.
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Stephen Allen
May 24, 2013, 7:30:03 AM5/24/13
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from the command line. :) However your advice is good, and worked.
Didn't realize when I wrote the 1st email that the Gnome metapackage it
wanted to remove was/appears to be the classic version, which I don't
use. So removing it, wasn't an issue as I use Gnome-Shell.
All is well, evolution is removed and I'm a happy Debian Stable, laptop
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Stephen Allen
May 24, 2013, 7:30:03 AM5/24/13
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day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the
running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day.
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Brian
May 24, 2013, 2:30:01 PM5/24/13
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On Fri 24 May 2013 at 07:26:57 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:11:13AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > Well, there is a solution: marking all the dependencies of the
> > meta-package as manually installed, that is, faking that you installed
> > them explicitly Aptitude is able to do that with its powerful search
> > functions:
> >
> > aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome)'
> > aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-core) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-core)'
> > aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-desktop-environment) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-desktop-environment)'
> >
> > This works for me to purge Evolution without removing other needed
> > software.
>
> Thanks for your effort to help me, mucho appreciated! In the light of
> day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the
> running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day.
I have never used aptitude but thought a command like
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:11:13AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > Well, there is a solution: marking all the dependencies of the
> > meta-package as manually installed, that is, faking that you installed
> > them explicitly Aptitude is able to do that with its powerful search
> > functions:
> >
> > aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome)'
> > aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-core) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-core)'
> > aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-desktop-environment) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-desktop-environment)'
> >
> > This works for me to purge Evolution without removing other needed
> > software.
>
> Thanks for your effort to help me, mucho appreciated! In the light of
> day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the
> running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day.
aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome)'
might appeal; I'm impressed with its succinctness. On the other hand,
provided a user is aware that setting packages to manually installed is
sensible for his task, it seems using aptitude interactively is very
neat and possibly more accessible.
Doing the same thing with apt involves a lttle more thought. My paltry
attempt is:
apt-cache depends --installed gnome | cut -d ':' -f2 | xargs apt-mark manual
There might be more tweaking to be done.
Glad you solved your problem.
>
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Stephen Allen
May 25, 2013, 4:00:02 PM5/25/13
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You know your stuff. I've just never got the hang of using aptitude in
interactive mode, even with most people considering that it's *easier*.
Go figure. :)
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Andrei POPESCU
May 25, 2013, 4:40:02 PM5/25/13
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On Sb, 25 mai 13, 15:49:44, Stephen Allen wrote:
>
> You know your stuff. I've just never got the hang of using aptitude in
> interactive mode, even with most people considering that it's *easier*.
> Go figure. :)
It's easier once you are comfortable with it. It does take some
>
> You know your stuff. I've just never got the hang of using aptitude in
> interactive mode, even with most people considering that it's *easier*.
> Go figure. :)
learning. If you are familiar with mutt and vim it will be easier
though.
Chris Bannister
May 26, 2013, 4:20:01 PM5/26/13
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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 07:26:57AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> Thanks for your effort to help me, mucho appreciated! In the light of
> day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the
> running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day.
Or too early in the day. :)
> Thanks for your effort to help me, mucho appreciated! In the light of
> day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the
> running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day.
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May 26, 2013, 8:20:02 PM5/26/13
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On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:35:15PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 25 mai 13, 15:49:44, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> > You know your stuff. I've just never got the hang of using aptitude in
> > interactive mode, even with most people considering that it's *easier*.
> > Go figure. :)
>
> It's easier once you are comfortable with it. It does take some
> learning. If you are familiar with mutt and vim it will be easier
> though.
I use aptitude from my shell, just not interactively. ;)
> On Sb, 25 mai 13, 15:49:44, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> > You know your stuff. I've just never got the hang of using aptitude in
> > interactive mode, even with most people considering that it's *easier*.
> > Go figure. :)
>
> It's easier once you are comfortable with it. It does take some
> learning. If you are familiar with mutt and vim it will be easier
> though.
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Stephen Allen
May 26, 2013, 8:20:02 PM5/26/13
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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:16:22AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 07:26:57AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > Thanks for your effort to help me, mucho appreciated! In the light of
> > day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the
> > running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day.
>
> Or too early in the day. :)
+1 :)
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 07:26:57AM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > Thanks for your effort to help me, mucho appreciated! In the light of
> > day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the
> > running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day.
>
> Or too early in the day. :)
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Joe
May 27, 2013, 9:50:09 AM5/27/13
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On Sun, 26 May 2013 20:14:49 -0400
Stephen Allen <marathon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:35:15PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Sb, 25 mai 13, 15:49:44, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > >
> > > You know your stuff. I've just never got the hang of using
> > > aptitude in interactive mode, even with most people considering
> > > that it's *easier*. Go figure. :)
> >
> > It's easier once you are comfortable with it. It does take some
> > learning. If you are familiar with mutt and vim it will be easier
> > though.
>
> I use aptitude from my shell, just not interactively. ;)
>
Here's a tip I discovered yesterday, after having yet another go at
Stephen Allen <marathon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:35:15PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Sb, 25 mai 13, 15:49:44, Stephen Allen wrote:
> > >
> > > You know your stuff. I've just never got the hang of using
> > > aptitude in interactive mode, even with most people considering
> > > that it's *easier*. Go figure. :)
> >
> > It's easier once you are comfortable with it. It does take some
> > learning. If you are familiar with mutt and vim it will be easier
> > though.
>
> I use aptitude from my shell, just not interactively. ;)
>
making sense of the idiocies it was proposing. I use LibreOffice, for
example, but it wanted to install OpenOffice, some of a total of 125 new
packages I neither want nor need.
If you've never actually used aptitude interactively in anger, your New
Packages number may be large, possibly tens of thousands, and this
appears to be the source of its insanity. Go to the Action menu, and
Forget New Packages. Suddenly, my aptitude was sane and got on with the
job in hand, which was just as well as a new Synaptic had started
freezing X, and I really wasn't keen on fixing the current log-jam with
apt-get. This is sid, by the way, which is currently an interesting
place to be.
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Stephen Allen
May 28, 2013, 6:30:02 AM5/28/13
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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 02:42:40PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 20:14:49 -040
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 20:14:49 -040
> > I use aptitude from my shell, just not interactively. ;)
> >
>
> Here's a tip I discovered yesterday, after having yet another go at
> making sense of the idiocies it was proposing. I use LibreOffice, for
> example, but it wanted to install OpenOffice, some of a total of 125 new
> packages I neither want nor need.
>
> If you've never actually used aptitude interactively in anger, your New
> Packages number may be large, possibly tens of thousands, and this
> appears to be the source of its insanity. Go to the Action menu, and
> Forget New Packages. Suddenly, my aptitude was sane and got on with the
> job in hand, which was just as well as a new Synaptic had started
> freezing X, and I really wasn't keen on fixing the current log-jam with
> apt-get. This is sid, by the way, which is currently an interesting
> place to be.
I bet -- Used to run SID myself once upon a time. Thanks for the tip. :)
> >
>
> Here's a tip I discovered yesterday, after having yet another go at
> making sense of the idiocies it was proposing. I use LibreOffice, for
> example, but it wanted to install OpenOffice, some of a total of 125 new
> packages I neither want nor need.
>
> If you've never actually used aptitude interactively in anger, your New
> Packages number may be large, possibly tens of thousands, and this
> appears to be the source of its insanity. Go to the Action menu, and
> Forget New Packages. Suddenly, my aptitude was sane and got on with the
> job in hand, which was just as well as a new Synaptic had started
> freezing X, and I really wasn't keen on fixing the current log-jam with
> apt-get. This is sid, by the way, which is currently an interesting
> place to be.
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