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gene heskett
Jan 22, 2022, 3:10:06 PM1/22/22
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Greetings all ff experts;
Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking, has
never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
remember all that.
Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
another browser and start all over.
In that event, suggestions investigated.
Thank you.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking, has
never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
remember all that.
Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
another browser and start all over.
In that event, suggestions investigated.
Thank you.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
piorunz
Jan 22, 2022, 4:10:05 PM1/22/22
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On 22/01/2022 20:05, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all ff experts;
>
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox
Oldstable (Debian 10 Buster), and Oldoldstable (Debian 9 Stretch) are
> Greetings all ff experts;
>
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox
using EXACTLY the same version of Firefox, 91.5.0. Nothing has changed
on that front.
See here:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox-esr
, discovering that
> dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
> bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
> quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
> month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
> that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
> access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking,
set by your bank. Probably to one month, as you discovered. Ask them.
This (probably) has nothing to do with Firefox.
Just to be sure, that your Firefox doesn't not interfere with banking
cookies, go to Firefox settings, Privacy & Security tab, and check what
Browser Policy you are using. "Standard" is pretty much normal, but if
you are using "Strict" this may interfere with some cookies.
has
> never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
> remember all that.
>
> Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
> hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
> another browser and start all over.
cookies) and bookmarks. Are you saying now, that you lost bookmarks list
in your Firefox profile? Or that you have been logged out of some pages?
If that's the bookmarks saved in your Firefox profile, what steps have
you taken to save/preserve/restore your profile?
--
With kindest regards, Piotr.
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Jeremy Nicoll
Jan 22, 2022, 4:30:05 PM1/22/22
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2022, at 20:05, gene heskett wrote:
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
> dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
> bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low ...
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
> dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
I doubt my comment will be what you want to hear ... but I keep just
TWO bookmarks in each browser (firefox, chrome, and in the past
some others). Those are for google's advanced search page, & my
local html disk file which is the starting point (*) for a set of html disk
files which contain URLs of related-subject links that I often need.
* - I don't actually have the bookmark point at a specific page of
URLs, but instead at an initial file which contains a redirect to
the first page of URLs. That way I can point it elsewhere if I
need to, and that change will be seen everywhere.
The html disk files are in Dropbox, so accessible to all my machines.
If a browser forgets my two bookmarks, they're easy to reinstate, and
they work on all browsers. As the bookmark files are just plain text
files they can be searched by any utility, not something browser-specific.
If I need to add a bookmark to one of my disk files, I edit it into place
along with a description and any notes I might need related to it.
I don't store any of my banking URLs on those pages; not because of
a security concern but just because whenever I log in to a bank I will
always be updating notes - not least the time & date of that login -
and so I can refer to the URL stored in that bank's notes file.
All the separate pages of URLs use broadly speaking the same html
and simple CSS. They all contain a set of links to other similar files,
and a reminder to me of what I'd need to type in a terminal window
to open that specific page in a text editor. The simplest page (which
doesn't tell you much about me & my interests) contains links to bits
of the BBC's websites. See:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8x9c7hkp6180lf/2022-01-22%20BBC_Bookmarks.jpg?dl=0
--
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
Andrew M.A. Cater
Jan 22, 2022, 5:50:05 PM1/22/22
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 03:05:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all ff experts;
>
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
> dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
> bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
> quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
> month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
> that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
> access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking, has
> never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
> remember all that.
>
Firefox has a sync feature: if you still have one machine with a working
> Greetings all ff experts;
>
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
> dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
> bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
> quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
> month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
> that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
> access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking, has
> never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
> remember all that.
>
Firefox and profile, you can sync it across to the (now) bullseye
machine.
> Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
> hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
> another browser and start all over.
>
machine as backup?
> In that event, suggestions investigated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
>
>
>
Andy Cater
gene heskett
Jan 22, 2022, 6:00:09 PM1/22/22
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On Saturday, January 22, 2022 4:02:37 PM EST piorunz wrote:
> On 22/01/2022 20:05, gene heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all ff experts;
> >
> > Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox
>
> Oldstable (Debian 10 Buster), and Oldoldstable (Debian 9 Stretch) are
> using EXACTLY the same version of Firefox, 91.5.0. Nothing has changed
> on that front.
> See here:
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox-esr
>
> , discovering that
>
> > dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention
> > of
> > bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
> > quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
> > month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
> > that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
> > access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking,
>
> Being your banking - bingo!! Login retention time (in cookies) has been
> set by your bank. Probably to one month, as you discovered. Ask them.
> This (probably) has nothing to do with Firefox.
> Just to be sure, that your Firefox doesn't not interfere with banking
> cookies, go to Firefox settings, Privacy & Security tab, and check what
> Browser Policy you are using. "Standard" is pretty much normal, but if
> you are using "Strict" this may interfere with some cookies.
That setting is "standard". I have probably added at least 25 new
> On 22/01/2022 20:05, gene heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all ff experts;
> >
> > Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox
>
> Oldstable (Debian 10 Buster), and Oldoldstable (Debian 9 Stretch) are
> using EXACTLY the same version of Firefox, 91.5.0. Nothing has changed
> on that front.
> See here:
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox-esr
>
> , discovering that
>
> > dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention
> > of
> > bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
> > quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
> > month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
> > that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
> > access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking,
>
> Being your banking - bingo!! Login retention time (in cookies) has been
> set by your bank. Probably to one month, as you discovered. Ask them.
> This (probably) has nothing to do with Firefox.
> Just to be sure, that your Firefox doesn't not interfere with banking
> cookies, go to Firefox settings, Privacy & Security tab, and check what
> Browser Policy you are using. "Standard" is pretty much normal, but if
> you are using "Strict" this may interfere with some cookies.
bookmarks in the last month, but all I can see is about 10 of the most
recent, and it will only scroll to maybe 3 more, which are all ff boiler
plate at the bottom of the list.
> has
>
> > never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
> > remember all that.
> >
> > Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
> > hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
> > another browser and start all over.
>
> Sorry but I don't understand your connection between logged in pages
> (in cookies) and bookmarks. Are you saying now, that you lost
> bookmarks list in your Firefox profile?
lost bookmarks, hundreds.
>
> > never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
> > remember all that.
> >
> > Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
> > hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
> > another browser and start all over.
>
> Sorry but I don't understand your connection between logged in pages
> (in cookies) and bookmarks. Are you saying now, that you lost
> bookmarks list in your Firefox profile?
> Or that you have been logged
> out of some pages? If that's the bookmarks saved in your Firefox
> profile, what steps have you taken to save/preserve/restore your
> profile?
and sell me stuff. So just as obviously I have ignored all that
'cloud' bs.
Historically If the bank times out the cookie, they'll ask me a secondary
security question before letting me in, but that, until now has never
removed a bookmark. With 32 gigs of ram in this machine, and /home is a
2T raid10 on SSD's, restricting memory or storage space used for
bookmarks & passwds is a total and absolute non-starter. So why isn't ff
saving bookmarks? Since chromium is on its way out, and you can probably
hear me cheering that from there, what else is their today?
> --
> With kindest regards, Piotr.
>
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
>
> With kindest regards, Piotr.
>
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
>
gene heskett
Jan 22, 2022, 6:10:06 PM1/22/22
to
On Saturday, January 22, 2022 5:45:00 PM EST Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 03:05:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all ff experts;
> >
> > Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering
> > that dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever
> > retention of bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a
> > timeout that is quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and
> > its been about a month since I logged in to move a few sheckels
> > around, I needed to do that again, and find that bookmark and login
> > have been expired out of access if not out of the machine. Obviously
> > that, being my banking, has never been written down. I have
> > foolishly depended on my browser to remember all that.
>
> Firefox has a sync feature: if you still have one machine with a
> working Firefox and profile, you can sync it across to the (now)
> bullseye machine.
>
> > Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
> > hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
> > another browser and start all over.
>
> Did you ever copy the your directory (including the firefox folder) to
> another machine as backup?
>
I may have an amanda backup from a time in late october when that
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 03:05:22PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all ff experts;
> >
> > Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering
> > that dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever
> > retention of bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a
> > timeout that is quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and
> > its been about a month since I logged in to move a few sheckels
> > around, I needed to do that again, and find that bookmark and login
> > have been expired out of access if not out of the machine. Obviously
> > that, being my banking, has never been written down. I have
> > foolishly depended on my browser to remember all that.
>
> Firefox has a sync feature: if you still have one machine with a
> working Firefox and profile, you can sync it across to the (now)
> bullseye machine.
>
> > Is that fixable from the about:config menu. to restore the former
> > hundreds of bookmarks it had back in stretch, or do I have to find
> > another browser and start all over.
>
> Did you ever copy the your directory (including the firefox folder) to
> another machine as backup?
>
shingled seagate committed suicide, but no clue at this point, which
amanda file it might be in. Scattered willy nilly about another 2T drive,
the only spinning rust left in this box. What would it be called if I can
find the last home level 0 that contains it?
> > In that event, suggestions investigated.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett.
>
Felix Miata
Jan 22, 2022, 6:20:05 PM1/22/22
to
gene heskett composed on 2022-01-22 18:03 (UTC-0500):
> I may have an amanda backup from a time in late october when that
> shingled seagate committed suicide, but no clue at this point, which
> amanda file it might be in. Scattered willy nilly about another 2T drive,
> the only spinning rust left in this box. What would it be called if I can
> find the last home level 0 that contains it?
~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini contains the particulars for each existing
profile, including each directory name that contains a profile's data.
places.sqlite is the file that contains history and bookmarks.
--
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based on faith, not based on science.
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Felix Miata
> I may have an amanda backup from a time in late october when that
> shingled seagate committed suicide, but no clue at this point, which
> amanda file it might be in. Scattered willy nilly about another 2T drive,
> the only spinning rust left in this box. What would it be called if I can
> find the last home level 0 that contains it?
profile, including each directory name that contains a profile's data.
places.sqlite is the file that contains history and bookmarks.
--
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
piorunz
Jan 22, 2022, 7:00:05 PM1/22/22
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On 22/01/2022 22:52, gene heskett wrote:
>> Sorry but I don't understand your connection between logged in pages
>> (in cookies) and bookmarks. Are you saying now, that you lost
>> bookmarks list in your Firefox profile?
>
> lost bookmarks, hundreds.
I see. I didn't understood you originally. You were saying first about
>> Sorry but I don't understand your connection between logged in pages
>> (in cookies) and bookmarks. Are you saying now, that you lost
>> bookmarks list in your Firefox profile?
>
> lost bookmarks, hundreds.
being logged out of banking, which has nothing to do with bookmarks.
>> Or that you have been logged
>> out of some pages? If that's the bookmarks saved in your Firefox
>> profile, what steps have you taken to save/preserve/restore your
>> profile?
>
> Well obviously they want that stuff "in the cloud" so they can browse it
> and sell me stuff. So just as obviously I have ignored all that
> 'cloud' bs.
save/preserve/restore your Firefox profile? If not, you could be using
brand new profile.
All your bookmarks are all there I bet, in ~/.mozilla/firefox. Go to
that folder and have a look. Your profiles should be there. There could
be more than one.
To switch between profiles, launch Firefox with "--ProfileManager"
parameter.
Like:
firefox --ProfileManager
from terminal or ALT+F2 runner, for example.
Also, Firefox has GUI-based bookmark manager called Library. Open
"Manage Bookmarks" from Firefox menu, or press Ctrl+Shift+O to access it.
There, you have Import and Backup menu. See Restore menu - you will see
all bookmark backups taken by Firefox over many months. Also, you can
select Choose file... to import bookmark backup from other profile.
All bookmark backups are sitting in ~/.mozilla/firefox/name of your
profile/bookmarkbackups/ directory.
> Historically If the bank times out the cookie, they'll ask me a secondary
> security question before letting me in, but that, until now has never
> removed a bookmark.
whatever, that has nothing to do with bookmarks. No page is able to
remove your bookmark, EVER. Please don't confuse cookies and logged in
state via cookie with bookmarks, they are two separate things.
> With 32 gigs of ram in this machine, and /home is a
> 2T raid10 on SSD's, restricting memory or storage space used for
> bookmarks & passwds is a total and absolute non-starter.
> So why isn't ff saving bookmarks?
Firefox for last 10 years or more. Migrating between Windows and Linux
alike. Sometimes by cloud, sometimes by exported bookmarks file,
sometimes by implanting my profile onto new machine.
> Since chromium is on its way out, and you can probably
> hear me cheering that from there, what else is their today?
Please try again with ~/.mozilla/firefox and "firefox -P" and bookmark
Library tricks as mentioned above.
gene heskett
Jan 22, 2022, 7:10:05 PM1/22/22
to
On Saturday, January 22, 2022 6:18:37 PM EST Felix Miata wrote:
> gene heskett composed on 2022-01-22 18:03 (UTC-0500):
> > I may have an amanda backup from a time in late october when that
> > shingled seagate committed suicide, but no clue at this point, which
> > amanda file it might be in. Scattered willy nilly about another 2T
> > drive, the only spinning rust left in this box. What would it be
> > called if I can find the last home level 0 that contains it?
>
> ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini contains the particulars for each
> existing profile, including each directory name that contains a
> profile's data. places.sqlite is the file that contains history and
> bookmarks.
Interesting train of thought...
> gene heskett composed on 2022-01-22 18:03 (UTC-0500):
> > I may have an amanda backup from a time in late october when that
> > shingled seagate committed suicide, but no clue at this point, which
> > amanda file it might be in. Scattered willy nilly about another 2T
> > drive, the only spinning rust left in this box. What would it be
> > called if I can find the last home level 0 that contains it?
>
> ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini contains the particulars for each
> existing profile, including each directory name that contains a
> profile's data. places.sqlite is the file that contains history and
> bookmarks.
And does all this get thrown under the buss if sqlite isn't there or
isn't configured correctly? I've not touched any of that since the
install. Here it is:
============================
gene@coyote:~/.mozilla/firefox$ cat profiles.ini
[Profile1]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=t7o642n4.default
Default=1
[Profile0]
Name=default-esr
IsRelative=1
Path=cfkfrtdm.default-esr
[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1
Version=2
[Install3B6073811A6ABF12]
Default=cfkfrtdm.default-esr
Locked=1
================================
Doesn't look too impressive to me. But I'm not to be confused with a
browser expert.
/home/amanda/.mozilla/firefox/nz58vim6.default-esr is no perms for me.
from firefox on in the above link 1001:backup owns it, patently wrong.
Now, that is already a backup recovery, but shouldn't gene:gene own:group
it all? We may have just found it!
Thanks.
gene heskett
Jan 22, 2022, 7:20:05 PM1/22/22
to
On Saturday, January 22, 2022 6:57:25 PM EST piorunz wrote:
> On 22/01/2022 22:52, gene heskett wrote:
> >> Sorry but I don't understand your connection between logged in pages
> >> (in cookies) and bookmarks. Are you saying now, that you lost
> >> bookmarks list in your Firefox profile?
> >
> > lost bookmarks, hundreds.
>
> I see. I didn't understood you originally. You were saying first about
> being logged out of banking, which has nothing to do with bookmarks.
>
> >> Or that you have been logged
> >> out of some pages? If that's the bookmarks saved in your Firefox
> >> profile, what steps have you taken to save/preserve/restore your
> >> profile?
none other than an amanda backup. That drive went from working normally
> On 22/01/2022 22:52, gene heskett wrote:
> >> Sorry but I don't understand your connection between logged in pages
> >> (in cookies) and bookmarks. Are you saying now, that you lost
> >> bookmarks list in your Firefox profile?
> >
> > lost bookmarks, hundreds.
>
> I see. I didn't understood you originally. You were saying first about
> being logged out of banking, which has nothing to do with bookmarks.
>
> >> Or that you have been logged
> >> out of some pages? If that's the bookmarks saved in your Firefox
> >> profile, what steps have you taken to save/preserve/restore your
> >> profile?
to fully self destructed overnight. One of 3 2T seagate drives, 2 of
which have now failed, the third one has my amanda backups for the last
59 days of the failed drives life. I feel like I'm sitting next to a
ticking time bomb.
> > Well obviously they want that stuff "in the cloud" so they can browse
> > it and sell me stuff. So just as obviously I have ignored all that
> > 'cloud' bs.
>
> Let me ask again. You upgraded your system. Did you took any steps to
> save/preserve/restore your Firefox profile? If not, you could be using
> brand new profile.
> All your bookmarks are all there I bet, in ~/.mozilla/firefox. Go to
> that folder and have a look. Your profiles should be there. There could
> be more than one.
> To switch between profiles, launch Firefox with "--ProfileManager"
> parameter.
> Like:
> firefox --ProfileManager
> from terminal or ALT+F2 runner, for example.
>
> Also, Firefox has GUI-based bookmark manager called Library. Open
> "Manage Bookmarks" from Firefox menu, or press Ctrl+Shift+O to access
> it. There, you have Import and Backup menu. See Restore menu - you
> will see all bookmark backups taken by Firefox over many months. Also,
> you can select Choose file... to import bookmark backup from other
> profile.
directory and I of coarse don't have perms. See my post from 10 minutes
or so earlier.
> All bookmark backups are sitting in ~/.mozilla/firefox/name of your
> profile/bookmarkbackups/ directory.
>
> > Historically If the bank times out the cookie, they'll ask me a
> > secondary security question before letting me in, but that, until
> > now has never removed a bookmark.
>
> No, browsing whatever page, your bank, yahoo.com, google, or really
> whatever, that has nothing to do with bookmarks. No page is able to
> remove your bookmark, EVER. Please don't confuse cookies and logged in
> state via cookie with bookmarks, they are two separate things.
>
> > With 32 gigs of ram in this machine, and /home is a
> > 2T raid10 on SSD's, restricting memory or storage space used for
> > bookmarks & passwds is a total and absolute non-starter.
>
> Sorry I didn't understand what you mean by that.
>
> > So why isn't ff saving bookmarks?
>
> It is. Everything is working fine. I have same bookmarks profile in
> Firefox for last 10 years or more. Migrating between Windows and Linux
> alike. Sometimes by cloud, sometimes by exported bookmarks file,
> sometimes by implanting my profile onto new machine.
it, For some reason I don't.
> > Since chromium is on its way out, and you can probably
> > hear me cheering that from there, what else is their today?
>
> Firefox is working absolutely fine. PEBCAC. Learn to use it a bit more.
> Please try again with ~/.mozilla/firefox and "firefox -P" and bookmark
> Library tricks as mentioned above.
> --
> With kindest regards, Piotr.
>
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> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
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>
Take care Piotr.
piorunz
Jan 22, 2022, 7:20:05 PM1/22/22
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On 23/01/2022 00:01, gene heskett wrote:
> Here it is:
> ============================
> gene@coyote:~/.mozilla/firefox$ cat profiles.ini
> [Profile1]
> Name=default
> IsRelative=1
> Path=t7o642n4.default
> Default=1
>
> [Profile0]
> Name=default-esr
> IsRelative=1
> Path=cfkfrtdm.default-esr
>
> [General]
> StartWithLastProfile=1
> Version=2
>
> [Install3B6073811A6ABF12]
> Default=cfkfrtdm.default-esr
> Locked=1
Yep, as I said. You have multiple profiles. You launched up one. And
> Here it is:
> ============================
> gene@coyote:~/.mozilla/firefox$ cat profiles.ini
> [Profile1]
> Name=default
> IsRelative=1
> Path=t7o642n4.default
> Default=1
>
> [Profile0]
> Name=default-esr
> IsRelative=1
> Path=cfkfrtdm.default-esr
>
> [General]
> StartWithLastProfile=1
> Version=2
>
> [Install3B6073811A6ABF12]
> Default=cfkfrtdm.default-esr
> Locked=1
said bank login page has destroyed your bookmarks. Then you said it's
Firefox fault. Or something like that. PEBCAC my friend.
piorunz
Jan 22, 2022, 7:50:05 PM1/22/22
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On 23/01/2022 00:14, gene heskett wrote:
>> Firefox is working absolutely fine. PEBCAC. Learn to use it a bit more.
>> Please try again with ~/.mozilla/firefox and "firefox -P" and bookmark
>> Library tricks as mentioned above.
>
> But first, I have to own it,and I don't.
man chown
>> Firefox is working absolutely fine. PEBCAC. Learn to use it a bit more.
>> Please try again with ~/.mozilla/firefox and "firefox -P" and bookmark
>> Library tricks as mentioned above.
>
> But first, I have to own it,and I don't.
Cindy Sue Causey
Jan 22, 2022, 8:30:05 PM1/22/22
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On 1/22/22, gene heskett <ghes...@shentel.net> wrote:
> Greetings all ff experts;
>
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
> dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
> bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
> quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
> month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
> that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
> access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking, has
> never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
> remember all that.
Ah, haaa. I noticed it twice in last two days while tracking down a
> Greetings all ff experts;
>
> Since installing bullseye, and your version of firefox, discovering that
> dissenter is history, I just found that firefoxes forever retention of
> bookmarks now has a max limit set way too low, or a timeout that is
> quicker than it is useful. Looking at bookmarks, and its been about a
> month since I logged in to move a few sheckels around, I needed to do
> that again, and find that bookmark and login have been expired out of
> access if not out of the machine. Obviously that, being my banking, has
> never been written down. I have foolishly depended on my browser to
> remember all that.
crochet pattern for my dog's sweater. Those links were only two or
three days old. For me, it's about URLs disappearing out of websurfing
history, not CTRL+D bookmarking.
Not sure exactly when it started doing this, maybe last week;ish. I
log out of user and alternately shut down completely while Firefox is
still in use. I figured that suddenly was an issue when it hadn't been
in a very long time.
Seems like this happened one other time in last couple years. It just
sort of eventually corrected itself, i.e. Developers changed something
that reversed the effect, THANK YOU!.
Good to know.. it's not just me. If I trip over anything about it,
I'll chat it up. Mine's 98 Nightly off the website.
As an afterthought, I went into ~/.mozilla/firefox and poked around.
I'm in a refreshed version because the ~13,000 tabs needed a break. So
I'm in a different, smaller profile. I can't tell if any CTRL+D
bookmarks are lost, BUT..
When I'm in the firefox child directory, I'm seeing a 20MB file,
places.sqlite.corrupt. The places.sqlite that apparently replaced it
is only 10MB large. That's a lot of loss of something that occurred in
the last couple weeks.
When I right clicked to see if I could open places.sqlite and inspect
the contents, Libreoffice tried to open it then reported back that it
considers the 10MB file corrupt, too. Firefox appears to be able to
read something out of that file because I haven't lost everything,
anyway...
One last observation is that I thought it was my imagination that the
overall size of backup copies of ~/.mozilla/firefox kept lunging
around in their size instead of consistently growing larger over time.
It's apparently not imagination, now.
Cindy :)
--
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *
John Hasler
Jan 22, 2022, 9:10:05 PM1/22/22
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gene heskett writes:
> Obviously that, being my banking, has never been written down.
Always write down important passwords[1]. You can then use long,
> Obviously that, being my banking, has never been written down.
secure, random ones and keep the little black book you write them in
secure.
> I have foolishly depended on my browser to remember all that.
learned, it is also less reliable. It is exactly where you should *not*
keep sensitive, important passwords.
[1] Bruce Schneier's advice.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier>
--
John Hasler
jo...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
gene heskett
Jan 22, 2022, 9:10:05 PM1/22/22
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firefox directory but a recursive chown -R gene:gene * did not fix it.
No clue whats next.
John Hasler
Jan 22, 2022, 9:20:04 PM1/22/22
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gene writes:
> I found I did not own the .mozilla/ firefox directory but a recursive
> chown -R gene:gene * did not fix it.
Try
> I found I did not own the .mozilla/ firefox directory but a recursive
> chown -R gene:gene * did not fix it.
chown -R gene:gene .mozilla
Doing
chown -R gene:gene *
Bizarre that you would not already own it, though.
Kenneth Parker
Jan 22, 2022, 10:10:05 PM1/22/22
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I have a non-networked (except temporarily, for apt upgrades) Ubuntu (sorry. :-)) with a file that has my Passwords in it. I update it, when changing passwords, or adding something new. I routinely respond "never" to offers to save my Passwords in Firefox and Chromium. I have exceptions for a few routine sites, like my Doctor's, where I allow Auto Password processing.
Oh, and I keep a backup on an external Hard Drive.
Paranoid? You bet!Kenneth Parker
Kenneth Parker
Jan 22, 2022, 10:10:11 PM1/22/22
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, 9:08 PM John Hasler <jo...@sugarbit.com> wrote:
I have a non-networked (except temporarily, for apt upgrades) Ubuntu (sorry. :-)) with a file that has my Passwords in it. I update it, when changing passwords, or adding something new. I routinely respond "never" to offers to save my Passwords in Firefox and Chromium. I have exceptions for a few routine sites, like my Doctor's, where I allow Auto Password processing.
David Wright
Jan 23, 2022, 11:00:04 AM1/23/22
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On Sat 22 Jan 2022 at 21:07:17 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> Thanks for backing me up Cindy. I found I did not own the .mozilla/
> firefox directory but a recursive chown -R gene:gene * did not fix it.
Who or what /did/ own it? That might help you determine how this
> Thanks for backing me up Cindy. I found I did not own the .mozilla/
> firefox directory but a recursive chown -R gene:gene * did not fix it.
bizarre situation arose.
Cheers,
David.
gene heskett
Jan 23, 2022, 1:50:05 PM1/23/22
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program on the old install the @&$#%* shingled drive ate that started all
this bs.
I've since chown'd it back to me but I've not added any bookmarks to test
since.
I''m also up to my gizzard trying to build a fully preemptible kernel for
an rpi4 as I've a friend in the other end of the country who wants to run
a couple ton of cinci milling machine with it. I can build it using raspi
instructions, but it won't boot when installed. So I'm mid process of
seeing if I can make it work on yesterdays bookworm build.
Pre-occupied is the word. And I need a browser that holds bookmarks.
Thanks David.
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